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All You Need To Know About India-China Stand-off In Ladakh

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They now control water flow into India they can shut it down when China wants it and they can also block the road which supplies the Indian troops with food and tifin service

Very grim situation , for Indian Troops
 
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India China standoff explained: Bridge over troubled waters
India has matched the China army’s deployment in terms of troops, capacity and resources in eastern Ladakh that is witnessing four simultaneous standoffs between the two armies.
india Updated: May 28, 2020 00:28 IST
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Shishir Gupta
Hindustan Times, New Delhi
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Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Chinese President Xi Jingpung(AP photo)

India has matched the China army’s deployment in terms of troops, capacity and resources in eastern Ladakh that is witnessing four simultaneous standoffs between the two armies. Here is everything you need to know about the Ladakh standoff.

What is the Ladakh standoff about?

China has moved two brigade strength of People’s Liberation Army, over 6000 soldiers and support elements, at four locations in eastern Ladakh, three in the Galwan Valley and one near Pangong Lake. In response, India had also moved an equal number of high-altitude warfare troops to these areas closer to the Line of Actual Control.

Have the Chinese soldiers intruded into Indian territory?

No. Initial information suggests that the Chinese troops have not expanded the disputed areas of the border either Galwan or Pangong Tso but their presence in large numbers is seen to be adopting an aggressive posture. The troop buildup is China’s response to border projects on the Indian side that would make these areas easily accessible to Indian soldiers and heavy weaponry.

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Do the Chinese attempt to stall projects on our side?

India is playing catch up with China that has built an extensive border infrastructure and laid metalled roads to connect all military outposts to their base camps. But there have been ongoing efforts by the Chinese army, now and then, to stall projects at Pangong Tso, Galwan and Depsang Plains.

Facts
  • According to the western sector maps shared by India and China in 2002 on their respective claim line, there are 12 areas of differences in perception of the Line of Actual Control. The maps were never exchanged due to Chinese objections.
  • These are:
  • Samar Lungpa 176 sq km
  • Trig heights and Depsang bulge 972 sq km
  • Konh Ka La (3 pockets) 56 sq km
  • Pangong Tso (Both banks) 83 sq km
  • Spanggur Gap 24 sq km
  • Mount Sajum 129 sq km
  • Dumchele 40 sq km
  • Demchok 150 sq km
  • Chumar 80 sq km
  • Indian military records indicate that China is in adverse possession of 33,000 sq km in the western sector through public information is around 38,000 sq km. Apart from this, Pakistan illegally ceded 5,180 sq km in Shaksgam Valley to China in 1963.
  • Source: The Himalayan Face-off: Chinese Assertion Indian Riposte
What is the latest dispute over?

The first standoff between the two sides is happening around the Pangong lake.

Overlooking the lake is the Sirijap range, which has several cliffs jutting out. These are numbered 1 to 8 by the military. India’s LAC claim line extends to Finger 8. Chinese PLA’s patrol teams normally come from behind Finger 8 cliff and are intercepted by Indian patrol around Finger 6.

Since the Chinese forces are able to spend a considerable amount of time on the Indian side of the claim line before they are detected, the army decided to build a new observation point at Finger 8 that would give Indian soldiers a birds eye view of the area and spot Chinese patrols as soon as they entered the area.

This time, a large number of Chinese PLA soldiers reached the area near Finger 6 where they are usually intercepted to put pressure on the Indian side to halt work at the observation post.

A scuffle broke out between the Indian and Chinese soldiers near the lake on the night of May 5-6 but a flare-up was avoided as both armies stuck to protocols to resolve the stand-off.

And the other?

The second dispute started over a 60-metre long bridge being built by India in the Depsang Plains across the Galwan rivulet. This point is close to the confluence of the rivulet to the Shyok River. This bridge, once complete, would give soldiers easy access to Daulat Beg Oldie, the last military post south of the Karakoram Pass. In the absence of the road, this outpost is supplied via mule trains from Murgo. The PLA beefed up its presence on its side of the LAC at Patrolling Points 14, 15 and 17. These locations are about six kilometres to the east to the confluence. The Chinese soldiers have not crossed into Indian territory but their posturing is considered aggressive.

Is this similar to the 2013 faceoff between the two sides?

Strictly speaking, this time the thousands of soldiers that have been moved by both sides aren’t really face to face as was the case in 2013. But at that time also, the faceoff that took place at Ladakh’s Depsang Plains was aimed at browbeating the Indian side into stopping building roads and an observation post in Himachal Pradesh’s Chumar, a day’s mountainous drive from Depsang.

Why do the two sides keep on having border standoffs?

One reason is the Chinese attempt to stop construction activities on the Indian side. The second reason is linked to the differing perceptions of the Line of Actual Control, which in eastern Ladakh, generally corresponds to the position reached as a result of the 1962 conflict.

Are the two countries making efforts to end the standoff?

India responded to the belligerence displayed by the Chinese side by moving reinforcements to the border hotspots but underlined the importance of ensuring peace and tranquillity in the border regions.

President Xi Jinping, who is also head of China’s military commission, appeared to amp up the rhetoric this week when he told the military to be prepared for war at the National People’s Congress. But there has been a marked climbdown by Beijing. The people’s congress, an annual meeting of China’s ceremonial parliament, ends tomorrow. On Wednesday, China’s foreign ministry stressed that the China-India border area situation is overall “stable and controllable” and stressed on bilateral negotiations at diplomatic and military levels to de-escalate tension at the border
 
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This is by far the best Indian media article on the current standoff I have found. Only states the known facts, no sensationalist assumptions based on anonymous "sources," etc. Also gives some good context on the nature of Indo-Sino disputes.

Actually this is the truth as India has started to build infrastructure at breath neck speed, along the Border the advantage China had due to the their Road Infrastructure is now largely negated.

Infact India when completes all the Infra Building projects will eventually be in far-far better position to deploy troops in much larger numbers, more quickly at various different sectors, totally separated from each other.

To put things in perspective.

China solely depends on SINGLE HIGHWAY - G219, along whole of Indian Border right from Laddakh (DBO) to Sikkim.

Just look at, how much Chinese Logistics are stretched.

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Now compare this to India's Position.

One ingress from Laddakh, One from Himanchal Pradesh, One in Uttara Khand, Sikkim, may places in Arunanchal Pradesh.

All borders and supply roots are all together separate from each other.

For Chinese once HIGHWAY - G219 is breached in one place whole of Tibet will be in serious trouble.

Just imagine the supplies from KASHGAR, XINING, CHENGDU, KUMMING all 1500KM to 2000KM away from under belly of G219.
 
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Finally we have something which sounds more plausible and unbiased. So we learn what is actually happening there at the moment. Basically just both sides putting more soldiers up and constructing different things in different parts.
 
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China has clearly won , only matter of time before Indians forces run backwards

Has Indian Media , started to discuss the matter or they will just hide under the carpet now?


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?? Chup Chup , Chop Chop .... hogiya!!



No Indian Air head , news
No Indian Colonel statement
No Indian Defense minister , warning
 
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It has been almost weeks and no response from India , even Indian general is quiet


"Bolti Band Hogai hai "


Koi , Indian video post bhi nahi ker raha apne Colonel ki
 
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:pop: At least Indian Defense minister should do a press release , Laddak region may be is not important enough
 
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Look like captured some soldiers too

Can Chinese member translate what the Angry Chinese Soldier is saying :laugh:
China not happy Indian soldier is illegally on their land


All Tough guy drama ended , once faced with Armed Chinese Military ,Indians became soft taking on unarmed civilians

....almost crying infront of Chinese Soldiers

China did not even offered any "Tea"

Oye Hoye




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I only heard that last shout: " Tell him if you don't want to fight, fuxk off".
 
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https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...-about-india-china-stand-off-in-ladakh/353519

what access does karakorum pass provide is it the access from Leh to Xinjiang plateau?

OPERATION "CHOP CHOP " SUPPLY ROUTE
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  • Over the past 10 days, China has built a stranglehold on a large part of the Galwan valley which includes a portion of Ladakh region. Chinese troops have entered 3-4 kms into Indian territory. The Galway valley was an area of stiff standoff during the 1962 war with China. This is China's first attempt to make alterations on this part of the Line of Actual Control since the sixties.

  • India has moved a large number of its troops to the disturbed area to counter Chinese movement in an area which is above 14,000 feet.

  • Not a single bullet has been fired as per the agreement between India and China. Border altercations are usually limited to fist and elbow fights. But this time, there are reports of sticks and iron rods being used.

  • Observers feel China is preparing the ground to lay claim on a portion of Ladakh and make it a difficult international issue for India.

  • By most accounts, 5,000 to 10,000 soldiers of the People’s Liberation Army have dug in the ravine area with the military building makeshift arrangements for settling the troops and use of heavy military equipment.

  • Most estimates suggest that China is making preparations to settle the troops inside Indian territory to claim ownership of the entire Galwan valley including a portion of Ladakh. The Galwan river flows from the disputed Aksai Chin region, which India’s claims as its own, to Xinjian region in China before entering Ladakh.

  • The new Chinese occupation is a big challenge as it will make it extremely difficult for the Indian army to service and support its troops deployed in Sub Sector North area close to the crucial Karakorum Pass.

  • The Chinese action is seen as a reaction to India’s decision to split Jammu & Kashmir state to create Ladakh as an independent Union Territory. China has earlier taken up the issue at the United Nations saying the decision is interference in its own territory. India and China are involved in a dispute over Aksai Chin, a largely barren area extending from Ladakh to the Xinjiang region of China.
 
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