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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

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TBH We don't give a damn. Not our problem or business. We need the Chinese and that's all there is to it. What it does internally is not a matter that concerns us. If the americans can genocide between 5-10 million Muslims globally since 1990 and get away with it scott free, then the Chines e deradicalizing a few zealots is a a complete NON-ISSUE.

True, China is making great effort to help the Uighurs to recover their traditional custom.

Uighurs remain as Muslims, but why they couldn't dress like that instead of full veiled Burqa?


 
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True, China is making great effort to help the Uighurs to recover their traditional custom.

Uighurs remain as Muslims, but why they couldn't dress like that instead of full veiled Burqa?






Brother, please ignore the trolls. Pakistan loves the Chinese people and nation. You have done so much for Pakistan and stood by us in our greatest hour of need. That will NEVER be forgotten. We are brothers and sisters FOREVER & EVER

Pakistan & China ZINDABAD!!!!!

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Brother, please ignore the trolls. Pakistan loves the Chinese people and nation. You have done so much for Pakistan and stood by us in our greatest hour of need. That will NEVER be forgotten. We are brothers and sisters FOREVER & EVER

Pakistan & China ZINDABAD!!!!!

:china::pakistan::china::pakistan::china::pakistan::china::pakistan:

Absolutely, China just doesn't want the Uighur women to wear the fully veiled Burqa, because this could make them and their family members vulnerable to succumb to the extremist ideology.

Most Muslim nations in the world support China's policy on this issue, because they know who is really the mastermind behind those extremists.

China always trusts the rightful decision made by its Iron Brother and other Muslim nations around the world. :china::pakistan:
 
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Absolutely, China just doesn't want the Uighur women to wear the fully veiled Burqa, because this could make them and their family members vulnerable to succumb to the extremist ideology.

Most Muslim nations in the world support China's policy on this issue, because they know who is really the mastermind behind those extremists.

China always trusts the rightful decision made by its Iron Brother and other Muslim nations around the world. :china::pakistan:




Please ignore the trolls who are trying to draw a wedge between Chinese and Pakistani brothers and sisters. They are mentally retarded, low IQ misfits who are knowingly or unknowingly carrying out the agenda of our enemies. They are the biggest enemy to Pakistan, China and Islam.
 
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Please ignore the trolls who are trying to draw a wedge between Chinese and Pakistani brothers and sisters. They are mentally retarded, low IQ misfits who are knowingly or unknowingly carrying out the agenda of our enemies. They are the biggest enemy to Pakistan, China and Islam.

Yep, actions spoke louder than words.

What China had contributed to the Muslim nations over decades has been self-explanatory to all normal people without a specific agenda.
 
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@denel LMAO are you one of those traitors on an NGO payroll that would sell out your country for a fistful of dollars? Why don't you try getting a real job instead.

@The Eagle there's supposed to be a pinned thread here for all Uighur-related issues. Would you please move this "discussion" there.
I have a self sustaining job, thank you very much; if interested in farming - please come and help instead of trolling. If MSF is an NGO in your eyes, then I am very proud to have served with them in various capacities in time off from my service with SADF/SANDF in Darfur and Yemen. What I saw was beyond comprehension. Why dont you come and help; it will make a man out of you and show what devil walks amongst humans.

Funny how an american channel is making a video about Muslims ALLEGEDLY suffering in China when the american have murdered millions of Muslims since 1990. Anything between 5-10 million in fact.......the irony!!!!!!!!!!..........................:disagree:........................anyone else think that the channel might be slightly biased????????..........:agree:







Brother, us Pakistanis love China. Ignore him, he is a troll. This is ALL propaganda against China. Enemies want to draw a wedge between Chinese and Pakistani brothers and sisters.......:china::pakistan::china::pakistan::china::pakistan::china::pakistan:







Sure sure. You fail to mention the slaughter of between 5-10 million Muslims by the americans since 1990. I suppose that's okay compared to going to a deradicalisation program............:disagree:








SURE SURE...........:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:......................The same americans who have genocided between 5-10 million Muslims globally since 1990??????????..................WTF!!!!!.............:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:..............I suppose that's not as bad as being DERADICALIZED...............:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


You have just proven the fact religious extremists are mentally retarded misfits with a low IQ devoid of reality..........:lol:





TBH We don't give a damn. Not our problem or business. We need the Chinese and that's all there is to it. What China does internally is not a matter that concerns us. If the americans can genocide between 5-10 million Muslims globally since 1990 and get away with it scott free, then the Chines deradicalizing a few zealots is a a complete NON-ISSUE.

Americans are guilty and everyone knows it. Chinese are guilty as well, Indians are guilty. Pak was guilty just as KSA is guilty. My own country was guilty.

Did you even watch the documentary? Do you have people who have been to China you know that are bringing news out? I do. A few zealots - really - how about women, putting children into kindergardens, shutting down and razing down mosques? Last thing I recall similar was what Nazis did to jews but one step further.

It truly shameful @Armchair that nation of Iqbal has people who are clouded by their god like worship of China they fail to realise what hate they have for muslims.
 
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Us Pakistanis have been infatuated by many a people before usually if wears off very quickly upon seeing their real faces.

It will take time. But it may be too late by then.

Yes America is guilty silent on India, Israel, Burma etc but that does not justify China.
I have a self sustaining job, thank you very much; if interested in farming - please come and help instead of trolling. If MSF is an NGO in your eyes, then I am very proud to have served with them in various capacities in time off from my service with SADF/SANDF in Darfur and Yemen. What I saw was beyond comprehension. Why dont you come and help; it will make a man out of you and show what devil walks amongst humans.



Americans are guilty and everyone knows it. Chinese are guilty as well, Indians are guilty. Pak was guilty just as KSA is guilty. My own country was guilty.

Did you even watch the documentary? Do you have people who have been to China you know that are bringing news out? I do. A few zealots - really - how about women, putting children into kindergardens, shutting down and razing down mosques? Last thing I recall similar was what Nazis did to jews but one step further.

It truly shameful @Armchair that nation of Iqbal has people who are clouded by their god like worship of China they fail to realise what hate they have for muslims.
 
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I have a self sustaining job, thank you very much; if interested in farming - please come and help instead of trolling. If MSF is an NGO in your eyes, then I am very proud to have served with them in various capacities in time off from my service with SADF/SANDF in Darfur and Yemen. What I saw was beyond comprehension. Why dont you come and help; it will make a man out of you and show what devil walks amongst humans.



Americans are guilty and everyone knows it. Chinese are guilty as well, Indians are guilty. Pak was guilty just as KSA is guilty. My own country was guilty.

Did you even watch the documentary? Do you have people who have been to China you know that are bringing news out? I do. A few zealots - really - how about women, putting children into kindergardens, shutting down and razing down mosques? Last thing I recall similar was what Nazis did to jews but one step further.

It truly shameful @Armchair that nation of Iqbal has people who are clouded by their god like worship of China they fail to realise what hate they have for muslims.




Okay. So where is the evidence that the Chinese are killing Muslims en-masse like the americans and isis have done?
 
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I just lament that so many Kashmiris and some others like to portray Indians as evil despite how much we try to ensure their happiness and not cross our limits in trying to kill the insurgency there. But, compare us to the Chinese and the Russians, we literally treat Kashmiris like little princesses despite the fact that there is so much violence in Kashmir while Xinjiang Muslims are peaceful.
why should we compare our army with some other army, if the object of discussion isn't competency?....although I do agree the other armies mentioned are way more brutal in their ways. we all remember what happened to the German women immediately after soviets took the remaining territory.
and we know of the PLA very well what it did to its general ppl, esp which tried to question the system. falung gong wasn't trying to dissent , still they got frucked.
But there are also gruesome stories that destroy work and good will built by indian state
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Exactly.
I keep telling ppl that one collateral damage in a family of an innocent, there is a potential for one or multiple extremists coming from that family in future. why would a person not try to avenge his dead father, brother etc etc.
nobody likes an abusive parent. nobody being Kashmir and parent being india.
 
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I have a self sustaining job, thank you very much; if interested in farming - please come and help instead of trolling. If MSF is an NGO in your eyes, then I am very proud to have served with them in various capacities in time off from my service with SADF/SANDF in Darfur and Yemen. What I saw was beyond comprehension. Why dont you come and help; it will make a man out of you and show what devil walks amongst humans.



Americans are guilty and everyone knows it. Chinese are guilty as well, Indians are guilty. Pak was guilty just as KSA is guilty. My own country was guilty.

Did you even watch the documentary? Do you have people who have been to China you know that are bringing news out? I do. A few zealots - really - how about women, putting children into kindergardens, shutting down and razing down mosques? Last thing I recall similar was what Nazis did to jews but one step further.

It truly shameful @Armchair that nation of Iqbal has people who are clouded by their god like worship of China they fail to realise what hate they have for muslims.

Yes, it truly is shameful. We have to build ourselves up to a people who live their lives on values, rather than on power politics. I believe someday we will re-emerge as a nation that does. As Iqbal believed.
 
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sure. duly noted, i will correct to use right way.


You go to the point of putting entire population into mental camps where beatings, not to mention abortion are being forced on women. You are truely a pathetic people at the end of the day.
You are trying to rob people of their identify; guess what Soviets tried and failed. Too bad, voice of our lord will prevail against your atheist god of Mao.


Correct and they have bought entire countries in debt to them who cannot say anything to protest - may it be Pak, most african countries including asians.
You just have to pull Food ranger's video blogs from 2-3 years ago into Xinjiang and compare. A huge contrasts - mosques were full and entire cities villages markets bustling. now it is ghosts that are around.
My friend who travels every year there for the first time said, situation is very dire for muslims in China.


Correct; CPEC or the Silk Road is nothing more than a conduit for the Chinese strategy to take over by putting nations into severe debt to China they will say nothing and provide a means to their ends.
China is the biggest threat to all developing nations. We see it here how they deliberately decimated our industries by dumping and taking our jobs away. On this one, I am with Trump; hit them hard ... so hard that it becomes a lesson for others to take the initiative. This includes Huawei - they are enabling mass surveillance across most of the countries they are selling to. If you have watched the video - check Food Rangers videos you will not see this level of surveillance then at street levels etc.
How much usually paid per month for demonizing China? Can somebody give me a referal if paid well?

US master is the enemy for most countries, isn't it? How many Muslims killed by your employer? 5 million? 10 millions? can somebody give a number?
 
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How much usually paid per month for demonizing China? Can somebody give me a referal if paid well?

US master is the enemy for most countries, isn't it? How many Muslims killed by your employer? 5 million? 10 millions? can somebody give a number?
I dont respond to chinese PLA trolls. Another add to ignore list of trolls

Yes, it truly is shameful. We have to build ourselves up to a people who live their lives on values, rather than on power politics. I believe someday we will re-emerge as a nation that does. As Iqbal believed.
Absolutely, the latest coming out of Xinjiang is zero tolerance to use of Arabic script including halal. No prayers to call, no reading of the koran; no ramadhan is allowed; kids will be most likely forced to eat pork as they have been seperated from their parents, if you are suspected of reading the koran, that means imprisonment until you break and forced brainwashing to the communist robots they are trying to create. In essence they want to break all the 5 pillars of faith to their own version.

Think it this way, by forcing Arabic as a alien language sy; then having a koran which mandates it being read in arabic is now a criminal activity.

It shows how insecure the Communist party is - they want to break the muslims completely to be seperate from normal islam and they want to control the narrative to their liking.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/sign-times-chinas-capital-orders-055556733.html
 
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You must have been hurt by Muslims.

Have Muslim ever forced you to buy their Qie Gao(切糕) at a high price? :P

不要说这些会让穆斯林发怒的话。没人希望自己的信仰被怀疑或者剥夺。

This 切糕 (Qiegao) conspiracy is at the core of all current developments in Xinjiang. Note that it used to be called 新疆骗子 in the past.

By searching the words "新疆切糕骗子"(Xinjiang Qiegao scammers) with google or youtube, once again, we see that the West's disinformation machine is enforcing a totalitarian blackout on this topics, in its ongoing proxy-war waged on China.

Meanwhile, searching in mandarin gives therefore a more better idea, such as baidu search:

Typical result:

•新疆切糕是如何骗人的 How does Xinjiang Qiegao deceive people?
https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/423891786692329932.html

•为什么新疆人骗人得不到公正的审判???他们卖切糕就是不对。 Why do Xinjiang criminals that deceive people can escape a fair trial? ? ? This scam is not right.
https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/506906932.html?qbl=relate_question_2


Soft video -without violent gory ending-
女子买切糕,发现被骗后要走,被卖方拦下无奈服从 The woman bought the Qiegao and found that she was going to be deceived but was stopped by the seller.
https://v.qq.com/x/page/v0367ht31hs.html
And indeed, for more than two decades, this has been allowed. Most often, the cheated customer ended up beaten by gangs of these professional scammers.

But when security personel at the entrance of long distance bus station for instance, seem to enjoy the beating instead of intervening, then one has the proof that it was from day one a well prepared and executed conspiracy.

Procedure of the conspiracy

To conduct nation wide, even in smaller towns, this violent scam, in order to antagonize the ethnic Uyghurs from all the other ethnic groups of China.

Conducted by small group of ethnic Uyghur male, up to ten.

Immunity from prosecution is assured by the authority.

Objective of the conspiracy

After one generation, it is expected that all Chinese of age 20 and above will have grown a genuine hostile feeling for ALL Uyghurs, and beyond, for all Muslems.

Without any sympathy left from the rest of the some 50 Chinese ethic groups, the isolated Xinjiang ethnic Uyghurs might be rounded up easily in reeducation camps!


Conclusion

This only echoes the conspiracy in Europe. For two decades, Muslems were singled-out for praying in the streets, or wearing hijab, or refusing to shake hands, or refusing to go to the swimming pools with there fellow schoolmates, or eating halal -refusing pork- at the canteen, or building minarets.

But, also, once marginalized, the delinquent teenagers would only be punished with a lenient sentence.

Soft video -without violent gory ending-
Ultraviolent aggression of an Asian Indochinese (L’agression ultraviolente d’une Asiatique résolue grâce à la vidéosurveillance)
http://www.leparisien.fr/val-de-mar...a-la-videosurveillance-18-07-2019-8119500.php
Today we know that all these "bad seeds", have in fact craftily been engineered en masse to form the backbone of the West's proxy armies as "ISIS" in their proxy-war waged on Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yaman and Iran!

And as these were supposed to die in the Middle East while carrying out the grand strategy of their European puppet masters, therefore the absolute interdiction for them to return to live in the West!


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