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IRANIAN MISSILE SYSTEM SHOT DOWN UKRAINE FLIGHT, PROBABLY BY MISTAKE, SOURCES SAY
BY NAVEED JAMALI , JAMES LAPORTA , CHANTAL DA SILVA AND TOM O'CONNOR ON 1/9/20 AT 11:00 AM EST
Ukranian Passenger Plane Crashes In Iran, Killing All 176 People Onboard
The Ukrainian flight that crashed just outside the Iranian capital of Tehran was struck by an anti-aircraft missile system, a Pentagon official, a senior U.S. intelligence official and an Iraqi intelligence official told Newsweek.
Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, a Boeing 737–800 en route from Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airpot to Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport, stopped transmitting data Tuesday just minutes after takeoff and not long after Iran launched missiles at military bases housing U.S. and allied forces in neighboring Iraq. The aircraft is believed to have been struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, known to NATO as Gauntlet, the three officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, told Newsweek.
One Pentagon and one U.S senior intelligence official told Newsweek that the Pentagon's assessment is that the incident was accidental. Iran's anti-aircraft were likely active following the country's missile attack, which came in response to the U.S. killing last week of Revolutionary Guard Quds Force commander Major General Qassem Soleimani, sources said.
U.S. Central Command declined to comment on the matter when contacted by Newsweek. No reply was returned from the National Security Council or State Department.
Of the 176 people on board, 82 were Iranian, 63 were Canadian and 11 were Ukrainian (including nine crewmembers), along with 10 Swedish, seven Afghan and three German nationals. None survived.
Rescue teams work amidst debris after a Ukrainian plane carrying 176 people crashed near Imam Khomeini International Airport in the Iranian capital Tehran early in the morning on January 8, killing everyone on board. AFP/GETTY IMAGES
The incident was first reported by Iranian semi-official media outlets, which cited the country's Red Crescent Society as assessing that the initial cause appeared to be mechanical failure. The Ukrainian embassy in Tehran shared this view in a statement, but later retracted it, with Kyiv warning not to draw conclusions from preliminary assessments.
Images began to circulate Wednesday of what appeared to be fragments of a Tor M-1 missile said to have been found in a suburb southwest of Tehran. Ukraine Security Council Secretary Oleksiy Danylov said Thursday in a statement that contact with a Tor M-1 system was among the potential causes for the plane's destruction that his country was looking into.
Other potential scenarios involved a collision with an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) or another flying object, technical malfunction and a terrorist attack.
The Civil Aviation Organization of Iran Chief has also invited Canada and Sweden to cooperate in the accident investigation, however, Chief Executive Ali Abedzadeh has stressed that he would not hand over the aircraft's black box—which may provide details of the doomed flight's final moments—to the United States.
Abedzadeh also on Thursday dismissed speculation that a missile strike took down. In a statement, he said this outcome was "scientifically impossible and such rumors make no sense at all."
In a rare call Thursday, Canadian Foreign Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne spoke with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif, to whom he "stressed the need for Canadian officials to be quickly granted access to Iran to provide consular services, help with identification of the deceased and take part in the investigation of the crash."
Champagne said that "Canada and Canadians have many questions which will need to be answered."
Asked whether the Canadian government is considering or leading with the possibility that an anti-aircraft missile took down Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, Global Affairs spokesperson Krystyna Dodds said her office would have to get back to Newsweek on the matter.
https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313
BY NAVEED JAMALI , JAMES LAPORTA , CHANTAL DA SILVA AND TOM O'CONNOR ON 1/9/20 AT 11:00 AM EST
Ukranian Passenger Plane Crashes In Iran, Killing All 176 People Onboard
The Ukrainian flight that crashed just outside the Iranian capital of Tehran was struck by an anti-aircraft missile system, a Pentagon official, a senior U.S. intelligence official and an Iraqi intelligence official told Newsweek.
Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, a Boeing 737–800 en route from Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airpot to Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport, stopped transmitting data Tuesday just minutes after takeoff and not long after Iran launched missiles at military bases housing U.S. and allied forces in neighboring Iraq. The aircraft is believed to have been struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, known to NATO as Gauntlet, the three officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, told Newsweek.
One Pentagon and one U.S senior intelligence official told Newsweek that the Pentagon's assessment is that the incident was accidental. Iran's anti-aircraft were likely active following the country's missile attack, which came in response to the U.S. killing last week of Revolutionary Guard Quds Force commander Major General Qassem Soleimani, sources said.
U.S. Central Command declined to comment on the matter when contacted by Newsweek. No reply was returned from the National Security Council or State Department.
Of the 176 people on board, 82 were Iranian, 63 were Canadian and 11 were Ukrainian (including nine crewmembers), along with 10 Swedish, seven Afghan and three German nationals. None survived.
Rescue teams work amidst debris after a Ukrainian plane carrying 176 people crashed near Imam Khomeini International Airport in the Iranian capital Tehran early in the morning on January 8, killing everyone on board. AFP/GETTY IMAGES
The incident was first reported by Iranian semi-official media outlets, which cited the country's Red Crescent Society as assessing that the initial cause appeared to be mechanical failure. The Ukrainian embassy in Tehran shared this view in a statement, but later retracted it, with Kyiv warning not to draw conclusions from preliminary assessments.
Images began to circulate Wednesday of what appeared to be fragments of a Tor M-1 missile said to have been found in a suburb southwest of Tehran. Ukraine Security Council Secretary Oleksiy Danylov said Thursday in a statement that contact with a Tor M-1 system was among the potential causes for the plane's destruction that his country was looking into.
Other potential scenarios involved a collision with an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) or another flying object, technical malfunction and a terrorist attack.
The Civil Aviation Organization of Iran Chief has also invited Canada and Sweden to cooperate in the accident investigation, however, Chief Executive Ali Abedzadeh has stressed that he would not hand over the aircraft's black box—which may provide details of the doomed flight's final moments—to the United States.
Abedzadeh also on Thursday dismissed speculation that a missile strike took down. In a statement, he said this outcome was "scientifically impossible and such rumors make no sense at all."
In a rare call Thursday, Canadian Foreign Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne spoke with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif, to whom he "stressed the need for Canadian officials to be quickly granted access to Iran to provide consular services, help with identification of the deceased and take part in the investigation of the crash."
Champagne said that "Canada and Canadians have many questions which will need to be answered."
Asked whether the Canadian government is considering or leading with the possibility that an anti-aircraft missile took down Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, Global Affairs spokesperson Krystyna Dodds said her office would have to get back to Newsweek on the matter.
https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313
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Sky News reports that Western intel agencies say the Ukrainian plane crashed due to an overheated engine, not an Iranian missile. In photos on social media, the red marks appear as "holes" from external damage, but the angle of photography creates a misleading impression.
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United States believes that Iran accidentally shot down Ukrainian Jet: CNN
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Iran mistakenly shot down the Ukrainian plane that crashed on Wednesday near Tehran with 176 people on board, US media report.
US officials say they believe the Ukrainian International Airlines Boeing 737-800 was hit by a missile, CBS says.
Ukraine earlier said it was examining whether a missile strike brought down the aircraft - but Iran ruled this out.
The crash came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.
CBS News quoting US intelligence said a satellite detected infrared "blips" of two missile launches, followed by another blip of an explosion.
Iran mistakenly shot down the Ukrainian plane that crashed on Wednesday near Tehran with 176 people on board, US media report.
US officials say they believe the Ukrainian International Airlines Boeing 737-800 was hit by a missile, CBS says.
Ukraine earlier said it was examining whether a missile strike brought down the aircraft - but Iran ruled this out.
The crash came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.
CBS News quoting US intelligence said a satellite detected infrared "blips" of two missile launches, followed by another blip of an explosion.
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Report: Iranian Missile System Shot Down Ukrainian Plane Over Tehran by Mistake, U.S. and Iraqi Sources Say
Ukrainian Airlines Flight 752 that had crashed outside Tehran was hit by an M1 surface-to-air missile system in an incident that was likely a mistake, Newsweek reports
HaaretzReutersThe Associated Press
19:09
The Ukrainian airplane that crashed outside of Tehran on Tuesday was mistakenly struck down by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile system, U.S. weekly Newsweek reported Thursday, citing a Pentagon official and a senior American intelligence official.
According to Newsweek, who also spoke to an Iraqi intelligence official, the Ukraine International Airlines flight that was en route from the Iranian capital to Kiev, was hit by a Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system.
The U.S. Central Command did not comment on the report by the Newsweek.
Later on Thursday, U.S. officials said they are now confident that the Ukrainian plane was shot down by an Iranian missile, citing satellite data.
U.S. President Donald Trump said that the deadly crash could have been a mistake, adding that he had a terrible feeling about the downed airliner but offering no evidence.
"Somebody could have made a mistake," Trump told reporters at a the White House, adding that he had suspicions about the crash but giving no other details.
Earlier Thursday, the secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council, Oleksiy Danylov, said that one of the potential causes for the airplane's destruction that his country is probing is contact with a Russian-manufactured Tor M-1 system.
Ukrainian Plane Crashes Near Tehran Airport, Killing All 176 People on Board
The incident, which claimed the lives of all 176 people on board, came after the U.S. killed last week the Iranian Revolutionary Guard's Quds Force commander, Qassem Soleimani – an attack that has sparked concerns that a new war will be waged in the Middle East.
Meanwhile, an initial Iranian investigative report said Thursday that the crew of the plane never made a radio call for help and was trying to turn back for the airport when the burning plane went down.
The Iranian report suggests that a sudden emergency struck the Boeing 737 operated by Ukrainian International Airlines early on Wednesday morning, when it crashed, just minutes after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran.
Investigators from Iran's Civil Aviation Organization offered no immediate explanation for the disaster, however. Iranian officials initially blamed a technical malfunction for the crash, something initially backed by Ukrainian officials before they said they wouldn't speculate amid an ongoing investigation.
Ukraine's leader said Iranian President Hassan Rohani has assured him of full cooperation in investigating the fatal crash and that Iran would provide experts access to all data.
President Volodymyr Zelenskiy spoke with Rohani by telephone on Thursday.
A statement on the Ukrainian presidential website says: “The Iranian party assured full cooperation with a view to holding an objective investigation and finding out the causes of the tragedy. Hassan Rouhani stressed that Iran would provide the Ukrainian expert group with prompt access to all the necessary data.”
The crash came just a few hours after Iran launched a ballistic missile attack against Iraqi military bases housing U.S. troops.
www.haaretz.com/amp/middle-east-news/iranian-missile-system-shot-down-ukrainian-plane-over-tehran-by-mistake-u-1.8377961
Ukrainian Airlines Flight 752 that had crashed outside Tehran was hit by an M1 surface-to-air missile system in an incident that was likely a mistake, Newsweek reports
HaaretzReutersThe Associated Press
19:09
The Ukrainian airplane that crashed outside of Tehran on Tuesday was mistakenly struck down by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile system, U.S. weekly Newsweek reported Thursday, citing a Pentagon official and a senior American intelligence official.
According to Newsweek, who also spoke to an Iraqi intelligence official, the Ukraine International Airlines flight that was en route from the Iranian capital to Kiev, was hit by a Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system.
The U.S. Central Command did not comment on the report by the Newsweek.
Later on Thursday, U.S. officials said they are now confident that the Ukrainian plane was shot down by an Iranian missile, citing satellite data.
U.S. President Donald Trump said that the deadly crash could have been a mistake, adding that he had a terrible feeling about the downed airliner but offering no evidence.
"Somebody could have made a mistake," Trump told reporters at a the White House, adding that he had suspicions about the crash but giving no other details.
Earlier Thursday, the secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council, Oleksiy Danylov, said that one of the potential causes for the airplane's destruction that his country is probing is contact with a Russian-manufactured Tor M-1 system.
Ukrainian Plane Crashes Near Tehran Airport, Killing All 176 People on Board
The incident, which claimed the lives of all 176 people on board, came after the U.S. killed last week the Iranian Revolutionary Guard's Quds Force commander, Qassem Soleimani – an attack that has sparked concerns that a new war will be waged in the Middle East.
Meanwhile, an initial Iranian investigative report said Thursday that the crew of the plane never made a radio call for help and was trying to turn back for the airport when the burning plane went down.
The Iranian report suggests that a sudden emergency struck the Boeing 737 operated by Ukrainian International Airlines early on Wednesday morning, when it crashed, just minutes after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran.
Investigators from Iran's Civil Aviation Organization offered no immediate explanation for the disaster, however. Iranian officials initially blamed a technical malfunction for the crash, something initially backed by Ukrainian officials before they said they wouldn't speculate amid an ongoing investigation.
Ukraine's leader said Iranian President Hassan Rohani has assured him of full cooperation in investigating the fatal crash and that Iran would provide experts access to all data.
President Volodymyr Zelenskiy spoke with Rohani by telephone on Thursday.
A statement on the Ukrainian presidential website says: “The Iranian party assured full cooperation with a view to holding an objective investigation and finding out the causes of the tragedy. Hassan Rouhani stressed that Iran would provide the Ukrainian expert group with prompt access to all the necessary data.”
The crash came just a few hours after Iran launched a ballistic missile attack against Iraqi military bases housing U.S. troops.
www.haaretz.com/amp/middle-east-news/iranian-missile-system-shot-down-ukrainian-plane-over-tehran-by-mistake-u-1.8377961
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Doubt it. Tehran is very far from the coast.
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