All new CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM) - Chinese Answer to Brahmos

[j20blackdragon]

Brahmos is BIGGER than a Tomahawk with 18% of the Tomahawk's range. Think about it.

 

[Echo_419]

Brahmos is BIGGER than a Tomahawk with 18% of the Tomahawk's range. Think about it.

Yes but brahmos is faster than tomahawk
Think about it & newer versions of Brahmos have range of more than 500kms

 

[kaku1]

Brahmos is BIGGER than a Tomahawk with 18% of the Tomahawk's range. Think about it.

Nirbhay has 1/3rd of Brahmos weight, still BrahMos has only 27% of its range. Think about it.

 

[SQ8]

But the US does have a Brahmos type missile (it's not in service) - it can build them, it just doesn't see a need for supersonic weapons.

Regarding your earlier post and the success of the Tomahawk. A lot of the success of the tomahawk lies in its land attack role, rather the Anti Ship version of it the BGM-109B TASM never really got a baptism of fire against a modern CIWS equipped ship. Both it and the harpoon have been tested extensively against test targets.. with the harpoon having a successful record of being used in anger.

The idea however with both the TASM and the Harpoon was to allow for greater range and flexibility in engaging Russian Ships if albiet at the cost of greater vulnerability against a CIWS system. Modern incarnations of the harpoon and the French exocet.. along with the Chinese C-8xx series are capable of performing various evasive patterns prior to striking their target. In addition, the CIWS is essentially a last ditch weapon to minimize the damage a missile may cause. What is important is that a ship have other means to kill a missile such as a SAM system. For all successful hits by subsonic anti ship systems, either the target did not have any defence that could put up an actual fight against such a weapon.. or that defence was inoperative at the time of that attack(USS Stark). Yet, subsonic systems do offer the potential of being able to fly a few meters above sea level which takes advantage of the curvature of the earth along with sea clutter to give the least possible time to react. So its a case of how fast are ship defences catching up versus to how late the missile gets picked up by defences.

Here an interesting idea takes place. Having weapons that either do both or weapons of each type. The latter approach has been taken very seriously by the Chinese and in this case Pakistan(using the subsonic C-802 and supersonic CM-400 in the same attack). India too has a similar equipment mix(although one has yet to see an operational purview of both systems on a single platform)


Also, it might be lost on many members here.. but the US does actually have a supersonic missile with combat proven anti ship attack capability. That is the RIM-66 and its derivatives. Originally a SAM, it can also be used(and has been used) in an anti-ship role in combination with the Harpoon.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Also, it might be lost on many members here.. but the US does actually have a supersonic missile with combat proven anti ship attack capability. That is the RIM-66 and its derivatives. Originally a SAM, it can also be used(and has been used) in an anti-ship role in combination with the Harpoon.

Your right about that, even the newer SM-3 and SM-6 retain their anti-ship capabilities, though the older SM-2 war more capable in this role while the newer systems are optimized for anti-air and missile defense.

There was even a land attack variant of the SM series, designated SM-4, though it was cancelled.

RGM-165 LASM Raytheon RGM-165 LASM

For those not familiar with the SM-2 as an anti-ship missile, it was used against Iranian targets during Operation Praying Mantis.

"Action continued to escalate. Joshan, an Iranian Combattante II Kaman-class fast attack craft, challenged USS Wainwright (CG-28) and Surface Action Group Charlie. The commanding officer of USS Wainwright directed a final warning (of a series of warnings) stating that Joshan was to "stop your engines, abandon ship, I intend to sink you". Joshan responded by firing a Harpoon missile at them.USS Simpson (FFG-56) responded to the challenge by firing four Standard missiles, while Wainwright followed with one Standard missile. All missiles hit and destroyed the Iranian ship's superstructure but did not immediately sink it, so USS Bagley (FF-1069) fired a Harpoon of its own; the missile did not find the target. SAG Charlie closed on Joshan,with Simpson, then Bagley and Wainwright firing guns to sink the crippled Iranian ship."

- from The Cutting Edge News

 

[j20blackdragon]

I'm going to put forward a number of facts. I want you to put the puzzle pieces together.

Fact 1: The US has already shown that the 1,000 mile Tomahawk Block IV can be turned into an ASCM by adding a new seeker.

Fact 2: The Chinese defense industry has shown the ability to design and build a huge variety of ASCMs. Here is the display at Zhuhai Air Show 2014.

Fact 3: Modern Chinese ASCM already have GPS/INS + active radar guidance just like the Harpoon Block II. The Harpoon Block II is capable of executing both land-strike and anti-ship missions.

Fact 4: The 2,000-2,500 km CJ-10K is already in service with the PLAAF.

 

[Basel]

@GR!FF!N Here are links for you to confirm that US is testing Hyper sonic CM and they know Hyper sonic area much more then any other country.

Hypersonic Cruise Missile: America's New Global Strike Weapon - Popular Mechanics
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Raytheon quietly developing new cruise missile technology - Boston Business Journal

 

[GR!FF!N]

@GR!FF!N Here are links for you to confirm that US is testing Hyper sonic CM and they know Hyper sonic area much more then any other country.

Hypersonic Cruise Missile: America's New Global Strike Weapon - Popular Mechanics
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Raytheon quietly developing new cruise missile technology - Boston Business Journal

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don't remember what I posted,but there is no denying that US is much more ahead in possibly every defence related field in this world.but may be it is operational or some other reason that they didn't go for supersonic cruise missile,atleast not that much.but their hypersonic program is quite old,and it is fact that its their choice and not their incapability that restricts them dveleoping these weapons already.

 

[GR!FF!N]

what? within 3 year in your wet dream, even US will be not in position to deploy such class of weapon before 2019 and 2020 because of scramjet engine, and russia is far far behined in scramjet technology then us

actually,we're going to test our first Hypersonic missile in 2017.but before that,we're going to test our HSTDV quite a few times..US may be far far ahead from us in this field,but Brahmos Corp already progressed in this field impressively.plus,India's HSTDV project provided India a lot of knowhow that we're going to use in this missile..in fact,the scramjet engine was tested quite a few times already and 7 models are already tested and achieved 6.5 MACH in wind tunnel test.
first flight is in the early next year.

 

[Penguin]

TOPIC!

 

[Beidou2020]

Brahmos is built with Russian missile technology.

 

[Ultima Thule]

do you even read the name of the companies???and I bet you don't even know $h!t about testing...the article said they conducted a Throw Test,which means just separation of the vehicle from Aircraft.do you even want that in Hypersonic?? it'd tear off a large portion of aircraft or may harm the aircraft in other ways.read about the X-51 test,kid.it means they'll conduct their test on this vehicle soon.unlike Pakistan,nobody tests a damn new platform skipping all these tests.because Pakistan gets final product.otherwise,every single entity conduct tests this way.

ok sir but my qestion still remains why russian conduct throw test after is successful flight of mach 6.5 as you say in1998 this is my question

 

[GR!FF!N]

ok sir but my qestion still remains why russian conduct throw test after is successful flight of mach 6.5 as you say in1998 this is my question

Platform....

in Kholod Project,they used Anti Aircraft Missile.This one will be air launched..what are you??some baby??can't you study the link provided and dig all these facts??

Kholod project

plus,why are you posting this in wrong thread??

 

[Ultima Thule]

Platform....

in Kholod Project,they used Anti Aircraft Missile.This one will be air launched..what are you??some baby??can't you study the link provided and dig all these facts??

Kholod project

plus,why are you posting this in wrong thread??

ok got it and thanks you started it

 

[hk299792458]