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Bouhmeed said:
You were ruled by Constantine who gave the upper hand to innovations but then died as an arian so turkey belong to europe and deserve to rule europe again like their ancestors did
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In english please. I dont understad this. Did you use google translator or what?
 
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MarkusS said:
In english please. I dont understad this. Did you use google translator or what?
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Let me translate it for you Constantine died as an arian(muslim) he ruled over europe he is the ancestor of turkish people so the rest is clear i think
 
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TMA said:
Did all your ancestors come from Anatolia? Imperium Romanum was a multi racial Imperium, as is the nature of Imperium. Just like the Imperium Britannia was composed of multiple racial and cultural groups.

I am sure there are Turks in Anatolia who have "Roman" or Greek blood in them, indeed some of them may have significants amounts of it judging by their phenotypes.


Despite intense rivalry, both the Modern West and Ottoman Empire despised Russia. Even "Christian" Britain teamed up with Ottoman Empire to fight Orthodox Russia.
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The bolded... you may be suprised that quite the opposite Christian Turks immigrated into Greece during the population exchange between Turkey and Greece, and the ones who immigrated into Greece were Karaman Turks; for example, the surname of previous ''Greek'' pm was Karamanlis.

Back to the topic.. this is an economic message from Germany along with other messages like taking in custody of Turkish deputy speaker in German airport.

Germany via Austria(once Greece) has been sending message, but now openly sending it itself; even though PKK terrorism propaganda and support is a daily routine of German parliaments, newspapers, TV channels, NGOs; Now the same Germany is ''hitting'' Turkey with insecurity due to the terrorism of PKK as excuse for tourism ban. What a paradox.
 
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Bouhmeed said:
Let me translate it for you Constantine died as an arian(muslim) he ruled over europe he is the ancestor of turkish people so the rest is clear i think
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ha ha ha ha ha

Islamic faith&Secularism said:
The bolded... you may be suprised that quite the opposite Christian Turks immigrated into Greece during the population exchange between Turkey and Greece, and the ones who immigrated into Greece were Karaman Turks; for example, the surname of previous ''Greek'' pm was Karamanlis.

Back to the topic.. this is an economic message from Germany along with other messages like taking in custody of Turkish deputy speaker in German airport.

Germany via Austria(once Greece) has been sending message, but now openly sending it itself; even though PKK terrorism propaganda and support is a daily routine of German parliaments, newspapers, TV channels, NGOs; Now the same Germany is ''hitting'' Turkey with insecurity due to the terrorism of PKK as excuse for tourism ban. What a paradox.
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Dont worry, Italy sends same message too. We just gave asylum to two military leaders of turkey who escaped here.

IU just hope Turkey finally understands the message. We want to get rid of it.
 
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Bouhmeed said:
I am stating historical facts Constantine died as an arian and he ruled over europe from turkey you can laugh all you want does not change the facts
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ha ha ha

Constantine was a roman. We romans are arians per se.

He ruled from Turkey? I did not know our capital back then was in Turkmenistan :D you make me laugh.

btw whats up in Tunisia?
 
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TMA said:
Despite intense rivalry, both the Modern West and Ottoman Empire despised Russia. Even "Christian" Britain teamed up with Ottoman Empire to fight Orthodox Russia.
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For me it is a mystery - persistent hatred of Western Christians to the Orthodox. They sacked Constantinople - stole hundreds and thousands of tons of gold and jewelry. After that, the ancient city has never recovered. They organized crusades against Novgorod Republic - the most powerful Russian state of that time. But we already officially adopted Christianity for a few centuries before!
Purely Western hypocrisy and bigotry.
 
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vostok said:
For me it is a mystery - persistent hatred of Western Christians to the Orthodox. They sacked Constantinople - stole hundreds and thousands of tons of gold and jewelry. After that, the ancient city has never recovered. They organized crusades against Novgorod Republic - the most powerful Russian state of that time. But we already officially adopted Christianity for a few centuries before!
Purely Western hypocrisy and bigotry.
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Do you think so? I´m sure if you could you would do same with Roma. Dont you think?
 
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MarkusS said:
Do you think so? I´m sure if you could you would do same with Roma. Dont you think?
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Emperors of Byzantium could destroy and plunder Rome almost every year for a few centuries (in those times, when Constantinopole was the most powerful city of the world). But I do not remember they were doing it. As for Russia - we did not made crusades against Catholics.
 
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vostok said:
For me it is a mystery - persistent hatred of Western Christians to the Orthodox. They sacked Constantinople - stole hundreds and thousands of tons of gold and jewelry. After that, the ancient city has never recovered. They organized crusades against Novgorod Republic - the most powerful Russian state of that time. But we already officially adopted Christianity for a few centuries before!
Purely Western hypocrisy and bigotry.
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Well if you watch Sheikh Imran Hosein, he gives an Islamic eschatologic view on why this is. Basically the Anti-Christ starts his mission from Western Europe (specifically Britain). Therefore in his view the Orthodox Christians of the West were overtaking by "Anti-Christ" Christianity and over many centuries, now you have "Christian" nations allowing two men to marry one another plus everyhting else like fighting anyone who stood in the way of his mission, one example was Christian Russia. They succeeded when the USSR was established and they were finally about to kill Russia off, when they destroyed the USSR, but they plan and so does God.

It is interesting to note that the Orthodox Britons suffered immensly at the hands of the "Papist" Normans and England was taking away from Orthodoxy after 1066 (this is the view from a British Orthodox former diplomat, I forget his name, but will try to find it for you) then you have further schisms from the Papacy leading to the Anglican Church and destruction of Monasteries etc and then finally Britain becomes the ruling state in the 19thC and is secular and gives "birth" to Israel.

Orthodox Christianity and Islam were and are the two forces that oppose the Imposter Israel and the Anti-Christ, hence why the Anti-Christ and his civilization fought and fights against them.

I cannot do justice to the subject with my words, but if you have time please watch his Sheikh Imran Hosein's vides, he even went to Moscow university and gave a lecture there and discussed with Orthodox priests.


MarkusS said:
ha ha ha

Constantine was a roman. We romans are arians per se.

He ruled from Turkey? I did not know our capital back then was in Turkmenistan :D you make me laugh.

btw whats up in Tunisia?
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Constantine was born in what is Serbia now.
Yes the original Romans were arian but todays Romans are not as "pure".

Have you read this?
https://chechar.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/aryans-who-no-longer-want-to-live/
 
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vostok said:
Emperors of Byzantium could destroy and plunder Rome almost every year for a few centuries (in those times, when Constantinopole was the most powerful city of the world). But I do not remember they were doing it. As for Russia - we did not made crusades against Catholics.
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I dont see it that way. You know that Rome is center of christianity and the door is always open for your people.

Why be divided?

TMA said:
Well if you watch Sheikh Imran Hosein, he gives an Islamic eschatologic view on why this is. Basically the Anti-Christ starts his mission from Western Europe (specifically Britain). Therefore in his view the Orthodox Christians of the West were overtaking by "Anti-Christ" Christianity and over many centuries, now you have "Christian" nations allowing two men to marry one another plus everyhting else like fighting anyone who stood in the way of his mission, one example was Christian Russia. They succeeded when the USSR was established and they were finally about to kill Russia off, when they destroyed the USSR, but they plan and so does God.

It is interesting to note that the Orthodox Britons suffered immensly at the hands of the "Papist" Normans and England was taking away from Orthodoxy after 1066 (this is the view from a British Orthodox former diplomat, I forget his name, but will try to find it for you) then you have further schisms from the Papacy leading to the Anglican Church and destruction of Monasteries etc and then finally Britain becomes the ruling state in the 19thC and is secular and gives "birth" to Israel.

Orthodox Christianity and Islam were and are the two forces that oppose the Imposter Israel and the Anti-Christ, hence why the Anti-Christ and his civilization fought and fights against them.

I cannot do justice to the subject with my words, but if you have time please watch his Sheikh Imran Hosein's vides, he even went to Moscow university and gave a lecture there and discussed with Orthodox priests.



Constantine was born in what is Serbia now.
Yes the original Romans were arian but todays Romans are not as "pure".

Have you read this?
https://chechar.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/aryans-who-no-longer-want-to-live/
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today romans are same as romans in old times. Evry genetic study confirms this. So please spare me this.
 
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Markus can u contribute to forum in a positive maners
 
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MarkusS said:
I dont see it that way. You know that Rome is center of christianity and the door is always open for your people.

Why be divided?
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For us, the center of Christianity is Moscow. And I am sure that in coming dark times for Europe you will understand why it is so.
But I am also in favor of cooperation. As deep as you want it.
 
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