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Jack Ma still on the CPC hitlist for stepping out of line...


Shares of Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. suffered a historic selloff Thursday to the lowest close in nearly six months, after Chinese regulators launched an antitrust investigation into the e-commerce giant.

A focus of the investigation was Alibaba’s policy of “choose one of two,” which requires Alibaba’s business partners to avoid dealing with competitors, as the Associated Press reported.

“[W]e are not surprised by the announcement of the investigation,” wrote analyst Aaron Kessler at Raymond James, in a note to clients. “We believe the most likely outcome is the termination of these exclusive relationships, though it is difficult to quantify the potential revenue impact (e.g. consumers shifting buying to other platforms).”

Kessler reiterated the strong buy rating he’s had on Alibaba since at least February 2018.

Alibaba shares BABA, -13.34% plunged 13.3% to close at $222.00, the lowest close since July 1. That shares suffered the biggest one-day decline since going public in September 2014, breaking the previous record drop of 8.8% on Jan. 29, 2015.
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The stock has also crossed over into a bear market, which many on Wall Start say is defined by a decline of 20% or more from a significant peak. Thursday’s close was 30.0% below the Oct. 27 record close of $317.74.

Kessler said that even before Thursday’s selloff, he believed the stock was already “largely pricing in” the concerns about an antitrust probe. As a result, “we remain buyers” of Alibaba’s stock at current levels, he said.

Kessler has a $330 price target on Alibaba’s stock, which is 48.6% above current levels.
The stock was now up just 4.7% year to date, erasing the bulk of the 49.5% gain it had at the record close. In comparison, the iShares MSCI China exchange-traded fund MCHI, -2.73% has gained 8.0% this year, and pulled back 6.3% since closing at a record $82.81 on Nov. 6, while the S&P 500 index SPX, +0.35% has advanced 14.1% this year and was just 0.5% below its record close of 3,722.48 reached Dec. 17.

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is it a good buy point or is jack ma done for @Beast ? Its important china restore confidence in its companies and stock markets.
 
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is it a good buy point or is jack ma done for @Beast ? Its important china restore confidence in its companies and stock markets.
I don't think so. This is not the only problem for Alibaba.This represents a new policy by the Chinese government to regulate the behavior of Internet giants. After the new laws and rules come into effect, the stock market turmoil will end.
 
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Jack need to shut his mouth and in line with CPC.
Jack ma will probably seek asylum in California.
Lol.. His core business is in fact China. You asking him to suicide?
is it a good buy point or is jack ma done for @Beast ? Its important china restore confidence in its companies and stock markets.
Better buy Xpeng and BYD stock. Leave alibaba at the moment until we know what direction Jack Ma heading.
 
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CPC runs China. Not Jack Ma. He thought he was an all powerful figure that can’t be touched by the CPC. He decided to talk shit. Now he’s paying the price. Get in line or deal with the consequences. End of!
 
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Jack Ma still on the CPC hitlist for stepping out of line...


Shares of Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. suffered a historic selloff Thursday to the lowest close in nearly six months, after Chinese regulators launched an antitrust investigation into the e-commerce giant.

A focus of the investigation was Alibaba’s policy of “choose one of two,” which requires Alibaba’s business partners to avoid dealing with competitors, as the Associated Press reported.

“[W]e are not surprised by the announcement of the investigation,” wrote analyst Aaron Kessler at Raymond James, in a note to clients. “We believe the most likely outcome is the termination of these exclusive relationships, though it is difficult to quantify the potential revenue impact (e.g. consumers shifting buying to other platforms).”

Kessler reiterated the strong buy rating he’s had on Alibaba since at least February 2018.

Alibaba shares BABA, -13.34% plunged 13.3% to close at $222.00, the lowest close since July 1. That shares suffered the biggest one-day decline since going public in September 2014, breaking the previous record drop of 8.8% on Jan. 29, 2015.
Don’t miss: Alibaba shares post worst day since 2015 after Ant Group IPO is suspended.

The stock has also crossed over into a bear market, which many on Wall Start say is defined by a decline of 20% or more from a significant peak. Thursday’s close was 30.0% below the Oct. 27 record close of $317.74.

Kessler said that even before Thursday’s selloff, he believed the stock was already “largely pricing in” the concerns about an antitrust probe. As a result, “we remain buyers” of Alibaba’s stock at current levels, he said.

Kessler has a $330 price target on Alibaba’s stock, which is 48.6% above current levels.
The stock was now up just 4.7% year to date, erasing the bulk of the 49.5% gain it had at the record close. In comparison, the iShares MSCI China exchange-traded fund MCHI, -2.73% has gained 8.0% this year, and pulled back 6.3% since closing at a record $82.81 on Nov. 6, while the S&P 500 index SPX, +0.35% has advanced 14.1% this year and was just 0.5% below its record close of 3,722.48 reached Dec. 17.

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Who did Jack Ma piss of in CPC to be going through this firestorm?
CPC runs China. Not Jack Ma. He thought he was an all powerful figure that can’t be touched by the CPC. He decided to talk shit. Now he’s paying the price. Get in line or deal with the consequences. End of!
Off to the gulag then?
Damn!! you folks could teach even Stalin a lesson or two.
 
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CPC runs China. Not Jack Ma. He thought he was an all powerful figure that can’t be touched by the CPC. He decided to talk shit. Now he’s paying the price. Get in line or deal with the consequences. End of!

But CPC must act based on rules not just throw its weight around and act like the biggest goon in china. And it must signal its rules well ahead in time so observers can get confidence.
 
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There are several companies that are forming near monopolies in China. Alibaba is one of them. The fact that Jack Ma attempts to influence politics means he needs to get hammered. I think the Ant Financial IPO got to his head that he's the one. Since he's the loudest, he gets smacked first. Tencent is next in line.

Corporate interests need to be checked when they attempt to control the government. There is a worrying trend that they're increasingly attempting to influence politics in recent years, especially with hiring former officials as "advisors".
 
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Jack need to shut his mouth and in line with CPC.

Lol.. His core business is in fact China. You asking him to suicide?

Better buy Xpeng and BYD stock. Leave Alibaba at the moment until we know what direction Jack Ma heading.
I agree. Jack Ma is too outspoken. He talks a lot and criticizes government policies and state owned firms a lot. In short he always speaks his mind. The problem is that he forgets that China's political system is different from that of the West, so making such comments will obviously have repercussions for his company. I think the party is trying to bring him down a peg and show him(and other private entrepreneurs/tech companies) who is the real boss and that the party can intervene anytime to cut them off as they see fit. So he should remain silent, bow his head down and make money like the others like Pony Ma. Silence is Golden. lol

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Jack Ma still on the CPC hitlist for stepping out of line...


Shares of Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. suffered a historic selloff Thursday to the lowest close in nearly six months, after Chinese regulators launched an antitrust investigation into the e-commerce giant.

A focus of the investigation was Alibaba’s policy of “choose one of two,” which requires Alibaba’s business partners to avoid dealing with competitors, as the Associated Press reported.

“[W]e are not surprised by the announcement of the investigation,” wrote analyst Aaron Kessler at Raymond James, in a note to clients. “We believe the most likely outcome is the termination of these exclusive relationships, though it is difficult to quantify the potential revenue impact (e.g. consumers shifting buying to other platforms).”

Kessler reiterated the strong buy rating he’s had on Alibaba since at least February 2018.

Alibaba shares BABA, -13.34% plunged 13.3% to close at $222.00, the lowest close since July 1. That shares suffered the biggest one-day decline since going public in September 2014, breaking the previous record drop of 8.8% on Jan. 29, 2015.
Don’t miss: Alibaba shares post worst day since 2015 after Ant Group IPO is suspended.

The stock has also crossed over into a bear market, which many on Wall Start say is defined by a decline of 20% or more from a significant peak. Thursday’s close was 30.0% below the Oct. 27 record close of $317.74.

Kessler said that even before Thursday’s selloff, he believed the stock was already “largely pricing in” the concerns about an antitrust probe. As a result, “we remain buyers” of Alibaba’s stock at current levels, he said.

Kessler has a $330 price target on Alibaba’s stock, which is 48.6% above current levels.
The stock was now up just 4.7% year to date, erasing the bulk of the 49.5% gain it had at the record close. In comparison, the iShares MSCI China exchange-traded fund MCHI, -2.73% has gained 8.0% this year, and pulled back 6.3% since closing at a record $82.81 on Nov. 6, while the S&P 500 index SPX, +0.35% has advanced 14.1% this year and was just 0.5% below its record close of 3,722.48 reached Dec. 17.

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The real issue now is that i am afraid Ant Financial will not be as valuable as it would have been prior to its first IPO. Even if they were to list in future (if they even do anymore), they will be valued far less than what they should have been prior to the CCP pulling off the rug on them. It seems to me that Xi Jinping is hell bent on cutting down these big private tech companies to size and bring down their influence/scale. Since Xi Jinping has openly said his policy is to strengthen the state and by default state owned companies, something private tech companies like Alibaba, Ant financial and the likes threaten the power and reach of state owned corporations. In fact if not for the CCP closing up and forbidden any private sector involvement in other core sectors like Telecom, finance, oil and gas, tobacco, electricity etc then private companies will be very active in these sectors and they would have been a few large private companies that emerged in these sectors as well.

So this new laws and actions the party has taken should be taken very seriously, since this shows a change of policy and how things are going to be done from now on moving forward. It seems the party will be having more say and control over private companies like they already do with SOE.. this would include giving a company’s internal Party group control over the human resources decisions of the enterprise and allowing it to carry out company audits, including monitoring internal behaviour. So the party will be having more say and control/oversight over private companies(Especially the large influential ones). We will need to wait and see how these will affect the operations of these companies abroad,
There are several companies that are forming near monopolies in China. Alibaba is one of them. The fact that Jack Ma attempts to influence politics means he needs to get hammered. I think the Ant Financial IPO got to his head that he's the one. Since he's the loudest, he gets smacked first. Tencent is next in line.

Corporate interests need to be checked when they attempt to control the government. There is a worrying trend that they're increasingly attempting to influence politics in recent years, especially with hiring former officials as "advisors".
I think China should just break down these big companies into small ones or they can just nationalize them and have the state take control over these companies and the decision making in this companies. Easy solution. That way there will never be a case of a big private company that grows to a certain size. Another solution will be to simply extend the state monopoly over these sectors and ban private participation/involvement in these sectors like in other sectors where the state has monopoly already.
 
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@Areesh case in point. And we let every two bit bastard bark against the state like a rabid dog and let it slide in the name of maslihat.
 
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@Areesh case in point. And we let every two bit bastard bark against the state like a rabid dog and let it slide in the name of maslihat.

we are a joke man

There is a reason that China is peaceful despite being a direct competitor of USA while we are even struggling to handle even those libtards of Aurat march and LUMSU
 
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