Alexander The Great- Conquest Of India.

[Hyde]

Porus or Poros was a king of the Pauravas whose territory in Ancient India spanned the region between the Hydaspes (Jhelum) and Acesines (Chenab) rivers in what is now the Punjab.

Rig Vedic Tribe . When did Pakistani taking their Pagan History seriously

My two cents on the topic although I am not in mood of discussing history right now

Present day Pakistan have been part of various nations from the time of Alexander The Great. There have been numerous names you can refer to including Ancient India.

Technically the word India itself derives from the people of Indus. As we all know 93% of river Indus flows in Pakistan and only a small fraction of river Indus is coming from China and India. So it is not wrong to say that Pakistan had the first right to use the term India after the independence movement of 1947 but they decided in favour of Pakistan.

In fact some people says that Quaid e Azam expressed displeasure after knowing India (constituonally Bharat) is still going to adopt the name of India. This region has seen numerous nations/kingdoms since past few thousand years and these kingdoms have always been fighting against each other just like present day of Pakistan and India, clearly indicating that they had nothing to do with each other for most part of the history and it is British who really tied them together for sometime until two nations were carved out in 1947 as a peaceful way forward.

I think most Indians like to take automatic credit for everything just because present day (stolen name of India) is larger in size and shares history with us as we all belong to the same Indian subcontinent (South Asia)

 

[Kabira]

Retard substance matters not the name. According to your logic Mohmmed Ali never existed before he coined the name Mohhamed Ali for himself at age 21. Indian Republic only was born in 1947 Mr Swamp. Shoo, go worship your holy Ganges.

Anyway here is extract from the District Jhelum Government website. Interesting is the district produces lot of soldiers even today and they are proud of their past.

Link > https://jhelum.pk/fames-mattis-dis-imperdiet/

Jhelum History
Jhelum
January 22, 2015
by jhelumpk_2
Jhelum is near the site of the famous Battle of the Hydaspes between the armies of Alexander the Great and Raja Porus. This battle took place a few miles downstream from the city centre, along the river banks. The city was founded to commemorate the death of Alexander's horse, Bucephalus, and was originally called Bucephala. Nearby there is also the historic 16th century Rohtas Fort, another historic fort since Sikh era located at the backside of main bus stand near Railway Phatak Jhelum City now being used as stores under Railway Authorities and also Tilla Jogian; a centuries-long history of the area.
Early history
The history of the district dates back to the semi-mythical period of the Mahabharata. Hindu tradition represents the Salt Range as the refuge of the five Pandava brethren during the period of their exile, and every salient point in its scenery is connected with some legend of the national heroes. Modern research has fixed the site of the conflict between Alexander and Porus as within Jhelum district, though the exact spot at which the Macedonian king effected the passage of the Jhelum (or Hydespes) has been hotly disputed. and sharoz ahmed named the city jhelum he live in jhelum cannt in westcolony
Greek period
Ancient graveyard of Alexander's period.Alexander moved from Taxila of Raja Ambhi, whom he subdued without fight, to Kalar Kahar. From there he moved over the Salt Range, turning left, along the western bank of River Jhelum, which he called Hydaspes. Opposite him on the other bank was a Raja Porus. They fought Alexander's biggest Indian battle which Alexander won, achieving a masterly surprise against the valiant Rajput. Before moving further, along the river Alexander established a village on west bank of the River and ordered construction of 2000 boats. Greek Admiral Nearches was to arrange wood from nearby higher hills which would be floated down the River and hauled up at this point. He called this village as Boucephila (present-day Jhelum City). The Jhelum River passes vying with the residential areas of the city.
The mosque inside the river is a famous landmark most commuters on the Grand Trunk Road even today. Alexander's Naval Chief was assigned the task of boats building on a very large scale. Therefore, the craftsmen on a large scale were gathered, hence the modern colonies in the city were named as Machine Mohallahs (Number 1, 2 and 3), because of saw mills. Jhelum became timber market for whole of Punjab over the millenniums. It was only after construction of Mangla Dam that log wood does not float down the river and the city has lost this privilege. There is a plywood factory also, which is flourishing. Greeks left marks of their chivalry and martial spirit which mixed up well with the races and clans dwelling in the area.

Just some correction. Jhelum was under ruler Ambhi who submittted to Alexander and fought against Porus along side Greek army. Porus was from region between river Jhelum and Chenab, meaning current day Gujrat. This region have also produced many soldiers, from 3 nishan-e-haiders to current COAS all belong to Gujrat.

 

[Hyde]

Just some correction. Jhelum was under ruler Ambhi who submittted to Alexander and fought against Porus along side Greek army. Porus was from region between river Jhelum and Chenab, meaning current day Gujrat. This region have also produced many soldiers, from 3 nishan-e-haiders to current COAS all belong to Gujrat.

Actually few years ago Mandi Bahauddin used to be part of Gujrat. The actual place is located in Mandi Bhaudin which is also very close to Jhelum. The battle tookplace on the banks of River Jhelum which flows through hundreds of kilometres but the actual place is located in present day Mandi bahaudin which is no longer part of District Gujrat

 

[Delhi Sultanate]

My two cents on the topic although I am not in mood of discussing history right now

Present day Pakistan have been part of various nations from the time of Alexander The Great. There have been numerous names you can refer to including Ancient India.

Technically the word India itself derives from the people of Indus. As we all know 93% of river Indus flows in Pakistan and only a small fraction of river Indus is coming from China and India. So it is not wrong to say that Pakistan had the first right to use the term India after the independence movement of 1947 but they decided in favour of Pakistan.

In fact some people says that Quaid e Azam expressed displeasure after knowing India (constituonally Bharat) is still going to adopt the name of India. This region has seen numerous nations/kingdoms since past few thousand years and these kingdoms have always been fighting against each other just like present day of Pakistan and India, clearly indicating that they had nothing to do with each other for most part of the history and it is British who really tied them together for sometime until two nations were carved out in 1947 as a peaceful way forward.

I think most Indians like to take automatic credit for everything just because present day (stolen name of India) is larger in size and shares history with us as we all belong to the same Indian subcontinent (South Asia)

You know nothing . europeans and mesopotamians called the land east of indus as India and not adjacent to the river as you claim . The East INDIA company was founded in bengal which is nowhere near indus river . Anyways , one look at the map and anyone can clearly see that almost 1/3rd of the length of indus lies outside pakistan.
INDIA is not a stolen name ; rather pakistan is . Real pakistan was bangladesh . What you call pakistan now is just bacha khucha pakistan .

 

[Kabira]

Actually few years ago Mandi Bahauddin used to be part of Gujrat. The actual place is located in Mandi Bhaudin which is also very close to Jhelum. The battle tookplace on the banks of River Jhelum which flows through hundreds of kilometres but the actual place is located in present day Mandi bahaudin which is no longer part of District Gujrat

If battle toke place in Bhera then it's in Sargodha district. Gujrat, Mandi Bahaudin and Sargodha districts fall between river Jhelum and Chenab. All we know from sources is that battle toke place in eastern side of river Jhelum, region between Jhelum-Chenab where Porus was ruler. While on western side Ambhi was ruler who submitted to Alexander and fought Porus.

 

[Hyde]

You know nothing . europeans and mesopotamians called the land east of indus as India and not adjacent to the river as you claim . The East INDIA company was founded in bengal which is nowhere near indus river . Anyways , one look at the map and anyone can clearly see that almost 1/3rd of the length of indus lies outside pakistan.

Oh may be

I would be really interested to see this new map created by you 2 minutes ago (your post is 2 minutes old)

If battle toke place in Bhera then it's in Sargodha district. Gujrat, Mandi Bahaudin and Sargodha districts fall between river Jhelum and Chenab. All we know from sources is that battle toke place in eastern side of river Jhelum, region between Jhelum-Chenab where Porus was ruler. While on western side Ambhi was ruler who submitted to Alexander and fought Porus.

No actually you are going too far...

It took place in Mandi Bhauddim, The nearest major cities are Jhelum and Gujrat, both around 40 miles or so

 

[Major d1]

But i heard that he didn't conquer india. His force marched towards India, but that battle didn't occur.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

But i heard that he didn't conquer india.

He crossed the present Pak border into India but within few miles turned back towards present day Lahore. He then marched back to Jhelum then sailed down Jhelum finally sailing into the Indus River. Fought a battle in Multan that almost cost his life. He then reached the Arabian Sea near Karachi from where the Greeks split their force. One sailed along the Baloch coast the other marched along the Baloch coast and by the time they crossed into Iran more then half were dead because of the harsh/dry climate. The present Mekran Highway follows the same route to Gwadar.

 

[Major d1]

He crossed the present Pak border into India but within few miles turned back towards present day Lahore. He then marched back to Jhelum then sailed down Jhelum finally sailing into the Indus River. Fought a battle in Multan that almost cost his life. He then reached the Arabian Sea near Karachi from where the Greeks split their force. One sailed along the Baloch coast the other marched along the Baloch coast and by the time they crossed into Iran more then half were dead because of the harsh/dry climate. The present Mekran Highway follows the same route to Gwadar.

By the way that time there was no name of a country like India. That was a South-Asian continent .

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

By the way that time there was no name of a country like India. That was a South-Asian continent .

BTW there was no South Asian Continent in that era

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

https://defence.pk/threads/battle-report-13-jhelum-326-bc-repost.457708/
My 2 cents.

 

[django]

My two cents on the topic although I am not in mood of discussing history right now

Present day Pakistan have been part of various nations from the time of Alexander The Great. There have been numerous names you can refer to including Ancient India.

Technically the word India itself derives from the people of Indus. As we all know 93% of river Indus flows in Pakistan and only a small fraction of river Indus is coming from China and India. So it is not wrong to say that Pakistan had the first right to use the term India after the independence movement of 1947 but they decided in favour of Pakistan.

In fact some people says that Quaid e Azam expressed displeasure after knowing India (constituonally Bharat) is still going to adopt the name of India. This region has seen numerous nations/kingdoms since past few thousand years and these kingdoms have always been fighting against each other just like present day of Pakistan and India, clearly indicating that they had nothing to do with each other for most part of the history and it is British who really tied them together for sometime until two nations were carved out in 1947 as a peaceful way forward.

I think most Indians like to take automatic credit for everything just because present day (stolen name of India) is larger in size and shares history with us as we all belong to the same Indian subcontinent (South Asia)

Excellent post.Kudos

 

[lastofthepatriots]

 

[Jaanbaz]

Porus was a Punjabi. Only Indian Punjabis can claim his fame, I don't know why Indians from as far as Bengal think he belongs to them.

 

[Major d1]

BTW there was no South Asian Continent in that era

Point to be noted .

But that time i think they used campus for attacking the 4 sides direction