Aleppo has fallen!

[maximuswarrior]

LOL at Aleppo has fallen and everything is going to be fine now. These kids nowadays.

 

[Rafi]

Assad is the best chance among a log of bad ones. I am afraid. Pakistan favours the current regime in the short to mid term.

 

[Fafnir]

This is how a successful liberated city looks like in these days.

I found a picture of liberated Caen 1944,it doesnt look that much different,ya`see thats what tends to happen when you have fanatics fighting to the last man and last bullet even tho their cause is lost.

 

[T-72]

LOL at Aleppo has fallen and everything is going to be fine now. These kids nowadays.

It'll be a major turning point and the Syrian govt's biggest victory in the war so far when it does. Still some mopping up to do according to this report http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/government-forces-push-aleppo-city-161207040903968.html

but others are tweeting it's over

https://twitter.com/x/status/806400967897976832

 

[Fafnir]

It'll be a major turning point and the Syrian govt's biggest victory in the war so far when it does. Still some mopping up to do according to this report http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/government-forces-push-aleppo-city-161207040903968.html

but others are tweeting it's over

https://twitter.com/x/status/806400967897976832

Exactly,I dont think this heralds the end of the war,but I think it certainly heralds the beginning of the end altho there still remains a lot to be done,nonetheless it is a major victory for the syrian government and the saa and its allies.

 

[Tipu7]

Bad days of Syria are not going to end.
War will continue in middle east and more severe clashes are likely to follow. ISIS is/was just a evil dummy used for justifying your military actions in region while protecting your geo political interests. Real thing is how issues will resolve to stalemate between both opposing parties which as far as my understanding goes are still power full and intact..............
I see rise and then downfall of Asad (assassination) ultimately leading to one more crisis in near future..........

 

[LeGenD]

Aleppo might have been liberated but this war is far from over.

 

[Pangu]

Congrats to Aleppo residents. This war has gone on so long, many pple in other parts of the world has gotten used to it. And that is a scary thought!

 

[IranDefence]

After Syria got released from those monkey Wahabies we have to tempt Hijazi people to start their revolt against Saudi dictators ... and don't neglect Shia majority in Bahrain that are cracked down by Wahabi Al Khalifa

 

[vostok]

Aleppo - Stalingrad of the 21st century! It was here where the back of global terrorism was broken and the forces that created this terrorism, armed, trained and sponsored were defeated.
And although there are still a lot of important battles, a lot of losses and difficulties ahead, but the turning point took it place!
It is not only the most important victory of the Syrian people, this is the first victory of the East over the West since the Vietnam era!

 

[mike2000 is back]

I found a picture of liberated Caen 1944,it doesnt look that much different,ya`see thats what tends to happen when you have fanatics fighting to the last man and last bullet even tho their cause is lost.

You can't compare the second world war which big Western powers and Japan fought against each other for world domination to Syrian crisis. The two are completely different things dude.
For one Western countries like Germany, U.K, U.S, France, Russia and even Japan were already industrialised countries and world powers in their own right. So obviously it's far easier for them to rebuild in a short period of time. Plus the reasons these powers were fighting around the globe was for world domination.
Syria's case is very different, since the country has never been an industrialised country , neither do they produce anything competitive globally whatsoever. So rebuilding(that's when or if the war stops altogether, which doesn't look likely at all for now) will be a huge task for the country and farrrrrrrr more challenging and difficult. Civil wars tend to last at least a decade on average than conventional wars between countries.
The war is also the result of one greedy man refusing to cede power even after his family has been ruling the country ruthlessly for over half a century while suppressing/putting down violently any opposition and protest to his rule. So it's a conflict that was very much avoidable. Egypt and Tunisia will be in the very same situation if their dictators/ leaders had managed to cling to power by turning their own people against each other. Luckily fot them it didn't turn out that way and their tyrants fled or were deposed from power.

Aleppo - Stalingrad of the 21st century! It was here where the back of global terrorism was broken and the forces that created this terrorism, armed, trained and sponsored were defeated.
And although there are still a lot of important battles, a lot of losses and difficulties ahead, but the turning point took it place!
It is not only the most important victory of the Syrian people, this is the first victory of the East over the West since the Vietnam era!

It's a joke comparing the two. It's different in every way.

Moreover saying it's a victory of east against west is even more laughable. If we really wanted ASSAD gone that badly, he will be long gone just like Saddam and Gaddafi.

Truth is, western powers had and still have little to no interests in Syria. We simply never cared much about the country, it has nothing much to offer i.e no natural resources Like Iran/KSA/Gulf Countries nor technology nor a big market etc, it's only value in the region is serving as a transit for weapons from Iran to terror groups like Hezbollah and radical sunni groups like Hamas, that's about it. lo It's a country we can do without, reason western powers have been reluctant to intervene to topple Assad from the beginning even though they could have done so long ago(even when Assad use chemical weapons against his own people like Saddam did). In fact our military support to the rebels has been very limited, most of the little aid they got came from regional powers/countries. The significant support we did give them has been largely focused on helping the Kurds battle ISIS in Syria and Iraq and we all know the Kurds are not openly fighting Assad(if anything there are indirectly fighting on the same side). In some ways we have been helping Assad indirectly and we have never ever targeted his troops not because we are scared of him lol. So it is rather funny seeing people saying the West tried all It could to topple Assad and failed.

Our involvement in Syria has been carried out rather reluctantly, western powers didn't want to get involved in this conflict in the first place. There is nothing much to gain from the country. Syria was never our priority. However, Russia getting involved and tied down there will serve some western powers interests , so this might help keep the conflict alive(just about) but not to the detriment of the Syrian regime Collapsing though. So we will keep our involvement to a bare minimum.

 

[vostok]

It's a joke comparing the two. It's different in every way.

Moreover saying it's a victory of east against west is even more laughable. If we really wanted ASSAD gone that badly, he will be long gone just like Saddam and Gaddafi.
Truth is, western powers had and still have little to no interests in Syria. We simply never cared much about the country, it has nothing much to offer I.e no natural resources Like Iran/KSA/Gulf Countries nor technology nor a big market etc. It's a country we can do without, reason western powers have been reluctant to intervene to topple Assad from the beginning even though they could have done so long ago(even when Assad use chemical weapons against his own people like Saddam did). In fact our military support to the rebels has been very limited, most of the little aid they got came from regional powerd/countries. The significant support we did give them has been largely focused on helping the Kurds battery ISIS in Syria and Iraq and we all know the Kurds are no openly fighting Assad. In some ways we have been. Helping Assad indirectly and we have never ever targeted his troops not because we are scared of him lol. So it is rather funny seeing people saying the West tried all It could to topple Assad and failed. Our involvement in Syria has been carried out rather reluctantly, western powers didn't want to get day in his conflict in he first place. There is nothing much to gain from the country. Syria Was never our priority. However, Russia getting involved and tied down there will serve some western powers interests , so this might help keep the conflict alive(just about) but not to the detriment of the Syrian regime Collapsing though. So we will keep our involvement to a bare minimum.

It does not matter how exactly you support the opposition, only with money and arms or with carpet bombing in the style of the Second World War - it is important that you are on its side, definitely. And definitely you are oppose to Assad. Western leaders have repeatedly threatened Assad with direct military invasion, but have not done so. That is what really matter and that is what people of the planet see.
However, in the best tradition, you can announce the most beautiful, the most profitable and the most plausible excuse why you lost.
The most suitable excuse, in my opinion, is that you are not very much interersted in overthrowing Assad.

 

[Mufflerman]

There is no secular Syria

Assad is a minority alewite dictator ruling and abusing a majority population

Assad does not have the military power to rule Syria and hasn't had it for a long time

The rebels will fall back to the open countryside and hit the SAA with guerrilla attacks

Syrias resources, funds, etc are limited and under great pressure they fo not have anything to fix the country and as the majority population is still under occupation by a minority dictator the underlying hatred will burn awaiting a fall for the SAA

The rebels will fight as long as Saudis can sell oil at a profit. Those days are over. There was a time when OPEC used to meet once a quarter. These days it's daily.
Let's see how long they can fund their pet peeves.

 

[Fafnir]

You can't compare the second world war which big Western powers and Japan fought against each other for world domination to Syrian crisis. The two are completely different things dude.
For one Western countries like Germany, U.K, U.S, France, Russia and even Japan were already industrialised countries and world powers in their own right. So obviously it's far easier for them to rebuild in a short period of time. Plus the reasons these powers were fighting around the globe was for world domination.
Syria's case is very different, since the country has never been an industrialised country , neither do they produce anything competitive globally whatsoever. So rebuilding(that's when or if the war stops altogether, which doesn't look likely at all for now) will be a huge task for the country and farrrrrrrr more challenging and difficult. Civil wars tend to last at least a decade on average than conventional wars between countries.
The war is also the result of one greedy man refusing to cede power even after his family has been ruling the country ruthlessly for over half a century while suppressing/putting down violently any opposition and protest to his rule. So it's a conflict that was very much avoidable. Egypt and Tunisia will be in the very same situation if their dictators/ leaders had managed to cling to power by turning their own people against each other. Luckily fot them it didn't turn out that way and their tyrants fled or were deposed from power.


It's a joke comparing the two. It's different in every way.

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The destruction inflicted certainly isnt.If you had actually bothered reading the post you would`ve seen that it was directed at another poster who had posted a pic of the destruction in Aleppo and somewhat cynically I thought commented that this is what liberation looks like,I responded by posting a very similar pic from ww2 that shows that yes this is indeed what liberation does look like especially when one has to fight a bunch of fanatics who will fight to the last man and the last bullet and sadly in this case also the last civilian human shield.
Now as for rebuilding and who is going to pay for it that I imagine will have to be a group effort involving several nations and trans national organizations like the world bank,tho personally if it were up to me`d like to see the countries who were responsible for encouraging,arming and funding these terrorists made to pay for rebuilding everything down to the individual brick and nail but sadly that probably wont happen.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Asaad is not secular and ur indian *** doesnt need to worry about muslim lands, those fundos who were fighting for usa and israel were the real secularists hiding behind cower of freedom movements, assas is a muslim ruler of a deeply muslim nation, shove ur secularism where the sun doesnt shine, bloody degenerate, how dare ur shitty hindu *** offer an opinion on the strifes of the big boys, u were an insect and will remain so, so act line one and shut up before someone squashes u under thier boot...


He fundo, dont try to confuse things for those with little info, guess kts ur job on this forum to spreqd disinformqtion , right??, giving minorities thier rights is not a secular ideology but a muslim one, its muslim lands today who offer the most tolerqnce to thier minorities, the blacks are still a second class citizen in ur dear secular west, the minorities and the lower castes have seen entire towns burned by hindus in india, ur secularists westerns enslaved almost the entire african continent, they wiped out the entire race of redindians and moreover secular stalin and lenin were the greatest massmurderers of the 19th century, syria is one of the most deeply religious countries in the entire muslim world, asaad is a true leader who doesnt bow down to secular west and zionist israel, he has been fighting nato and mossad backed paid mercanaries pretending to be extremists to defame islam, this was a battle for the heart of the middle east, if those rebels backed by israel won then syria would've been turned into a secular wasteland under the heel of israel with illegal jewish settelers moving in via thier grand plan, asaad has served the ummah and taken russia's help in fihting of those western secular powerw in thier grand schemes, and plz dont confuse present russia with past aecular soviet union, we pakistani's fucked up that secular soviet union in the afghan jihad so now the present russia isnt secular but a christian russia with a huge number of muslims in its army with some reports claiming thamt that number could jump to 40% of the entire russian army in the coming years, so shove it kali maa's boy cause a grand alliance is forming between russia, iran, turkey, china wuth pakistan bieng the architect of this alliance and the days af secular western hegemony over the east are rapidly passing, now india will be left alone on this region and will eventually swallowed by this alloance, india is the last stronghold of pagan idol worshipers and rest assured we will not rest unti the last false stone god in ur last mandir is broken into a million pieces like ghaznavi broke up ur somnath temple...

So much hatred, racism and uncivilized rants in one post Damn man, I feel sorry for your childhood, you must have had a terrible upbringing and no one was there to teach you manners and civility i see what the horrors of childhood can do to an adult man, please go see a shrink if you can afford that.