Al-Qaeda claims slaying of ISI brigadier

[Green Arrow]

Is there any official or ISPR confirmation on this issue?

 

[Icarus]

ISI is a discredited organisation which selectively targets terrorist organisation & secretively funds "terror asserts" including Al Qaeda affiliates to be mainly used against India & getting strategic hold in Afghanistan , Af- Pak area. Even the Americans know it & many have also written about it.

You do realize that the whole idea of having an intelligence organization is that you can partake in activities that would have unprecedented blow back if done openly? I doubt there is a single organization that works in secret with high compartmentalization and does not boast an agenda that is less than suited to their national outlook.

 

[Cheetah786]

Purification, of Pakistan,continues. Unfortunately now it's silent majority's turn.


"Truly! To Allah we belong and truly, to Him we shall return.""inna lillahi wa innâ ilay-hi raji'oon".

 

[Zarvan]

@Horus would you please share the link? I need to show this to my Sufi brothers. There are lessons to be learned from this for arranging security. The security in this video was totally non-existent. Brig sb should have been much more careful, considering everything. No security was possible in this situation. Whenever I am tasked for over-seeing security, I routinely check all access points and make sure that key points are occupied by security volunteers and that there are multiple layers as well as at least two points where people are frisked. Where hundreds of people assemble, one must take all necessary precautions.

@Bang Galore , @Ravi Nair and others who are talking about theological & social reform should know that they are addressing sensitive issues that go beyond the scope of this thread as well as most discussions. Jihad is a part of Islam, and just because some people use the concept to do stuff like this, we can not reform the concept or the religion. Muslims have yet to come up with effective answers to modern challenges, and all our efforts in that direction are being actively thwarted.

This should also be a lesson for those who love to find fault with constitutionalism, are security obsessed and think that violence is a justifiable answer to all perceived problems. It is just a thin line that separates this mind-set from actual terrorism. @Zarvan

Sir when state is being run by corrupt illegtimate mafia governments rising against them is must and no such constitution could be accepted which protects these kind off governments

 

[Green Arrow]

We should need comprehensive security policy to deal with these kind of threats

 

[Chak Bamu]

Err....not me. Not on this thread.

Oh, sorry. I had meant to type @Capt.Popeye .... Sorry again.

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[Chak Bamu]

Sir when state is being run by corrupt illegtimate mafia governments rising against them is must and no such constitution could be accepted which protects these kind off governments

Thanks Zarvan for being the illustrative example. My purpose for tagging you is well served. One can depend upon you for saying whatever you have been saying many thousand times over.

BTW, you never told me if you have 'converted' to democracy or if you are still same old 'democracy is kufr' type?

 

[Bratva]

We need secret gas chambers inside Balochistan's mountains for such

@Bang Galore , @Ravi Nair and others who are talking about theological & social reform should know that they are addressing sensitive issues that go beyond the scope of this thread as well as most discussions. Jihad is a part of Islam, and just because some people use the concept to do stuff like this, we can not reform the concept or the religion. Muslims have yet to come up with effective answers to modern challenges, and all our efforts in that direction are being actively thwarted.

This should also be a lesson for those who love to find fault with constitutionalism, are security obsessed and think that violence is a justifiable answer to all perceived problems. It is just a thin line that separates this mind-set from actual terrorism. @Zarvan

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152475525297663

Brig Sahab was under the illusion that only handful of people knew his movement and 6 security guards would be enough to protect him from any untoward situation.

You correctly pointed out security was totally non-existent. Atleast 6 guards of Brig sahab should have formed a kind of protective ring along with Khadmeen of Mazar

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Icarus @Irfan Baloch

Anyone knows the fate of the assassin of Gen Alvi? Maj (R) Haroon Ashiq?

If he was really set free and is still at large, then he might have struck again.

Key al-Qaeda operative set to walk free - thenews.com.pk

not much is known dear. if you recall the letter of the slain general then you will know that he already knew was marked for assassination his killer(s) had same kind of immunity that is enjoyed by Malik Ishaq

 

[asq]

ISLAMABAD: In a significant development, the recently launched South Asia branch of al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility for the September 6, 2014 mystery murder of an ISI Brigadier, Zahoor Fazal Qadri, and his brother, in Sargodha.

The responsibility has been claimed in a statement released by Usama Mahmood, the spokesman of al-Qaeda’s sub-continent chapter, who had earlier claimed the defence day (September 6, 2014) terrorist attack on the PNS Karachi Naval Dockyard. The ISI Brigadier, who had also served in Waziristan region in the past on an important assignment, and his brother were killed at Astana Fazal - a Sufi shrine situated in the suburbs of Sargodha, where deprived and needy are provided free food, medicines and religious education. Brig Zahoor Fazal Qadri, who was off-duty when targeted, became the Gaddi Nasheen of the shrine in 2012 following the death of his father. His brother, Zahoor Fazal Subhani, who was also killed in the attack, used to look after the Astana Fazal Shrine’s affairs.

The deceased Brigadier, who was posted at the ISI Directorate in the federal capital, was reportedly on the hit list of the militants. The Sargodha Cantonment police station has registered FIR No 417 under various sections, including 302, 324, 392 of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) along with Section 7 of the Anti Terrorism Act (ATA) on a complaint filed by Masood Ahmad, brother-in-law of Brigadier Zahoor, against four unidentified assailants. The attackers had reached the crime scene on two motorcycles on September 6, 2014. Two assassins targeted the Brigadier, who was presiding over a Sufi gathering (Mefil-e-Samaa) at that time in the main hall of the shrine’s building, and his brother, with 9mm pistols while two other Kalashnikov-totting assailants provided cover to the attackers. The two brothers died on the spot while two others expired later after being shifted to a Faisalabad hospital in critical condition. Six others who had received bullet injuries included Brigadier’s gunmen Amjad Mahmood, Mohammad Azim, Ahsanul Haq, Qaiser Abbas, Mohammad Zafar and Asghar Ali who are being treated at the DHQ Hospital, Sargodha. The police was largely clueless about the assassins, considering it a case of sectarian killing, before al-Qaeda spokesman in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS) Usama Mahmood posted a press release on the official letter head of the terrorist group, claiming responsibility for the attack, saying they have avenged the killing of innocent people in Waziristan.

“The Sargodha attack should be taken as a warning by the slaves of [the United States of] America in the Pakistani Armed Forces to leave the US-backed ‘war on terror’ or get ready to face the consequences”, so said AQIS spokesman Usama Mahmood in his Urdu statement, which has been reproduced on The Long War Journal Website.

Brigadier Zahoor Fazal Qadri is not the first high profile army officer to have been martyred by al-Qaeda-linked militants for fighting against terrorists in Waziristan area. On November 19, 2008, Major Gen Ameer Faisal Alvi, a former two-star general and the first General Officer Commanding (GOC) of the Army’s Special Service Group, was shot dead in his car in Islamabad. Once considered close to General Pervez Musharraf, Alvi was the first Pakistani Major General to have captained the prestigious Armed Forces Skydiving Team (AFST) as a General Officer Commanding. But he was forcibly retired from the Pakistan Army on disciplinary grounds ‘for conduct unbecoming’ by then Army Chief General Musharraf in August 2005.

Subsequent investigations and the arrest of a former ISI Major had revealed that Alvi’s murder was masterminded by Commander Ilyas Kashmiri, the now deceased chief of the Azad Kashmir chapter of the al-Qaeda-linked Harkatul Jehadul Islami. After his arrest, Major (Retd) Haroon Ashiq, the former ISI official, confessed having killed Major Gen Ameer Faisal Alvi at the behest of Commander Ilyas Kashmiri who also used to head 313 Brigade in North Waziristan. Kashmiri was later killed in a US drone attack on June 3, 2011 in South Waziristan.

In fact, Major General Alvi had supervised “Operation Mountain Lion”, carried out by American and British troops on the Pak-Afghan tribal border belt. The operation on the Pakistani side of the border was conducted with the help of the Special Services Group commandos to track down fugitive al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders. In one such military operation carried out in the Angoor Adda area of Waziristan in October 2003, a special SSG unit led by Maj Gen Faisal Alvi had reportedly killed 12 suspected Taliban and al-Qaeda militants and arrested 14 others.

At a subsequent media briefing, Maj Gen Alvi, the commander of the operation, had stated while showing the seized weapons to reporters: “Our guys are trying to flush out the militants. We are having problems actually flushing them out, because they are putting on strong resistance. Some of those arrested appeared to be from Afghanistan’s ousted Taliban regime. Most of the guys we have encountered so far here are foreigners hailing from different nationalities. You see those guys sitting under the tree, those prisoners we have taken, they are all foreigners and we have four dead foreigners lying here. The dead and most of the prisoners appear to be Arab nationals. A large cache of arms and basic surveillance equipment has also been seized from their compounds”.

Al-Qaeda claims slaying of ISI brigadier - thenews.com.pk

this seems to be an old news, it may have taken place pre zarb E Azab, now Pakistan Army has and will take care of these animals as some said before me.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

We need secret gas chambers inside Balochistan's mountains for such traitors, especially the ones from Hizb-ut-Tahrir. Replacing the loss of a highly experienced ISI official is simply not possible.

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152475525297663

@Icarus @Xeric @Irfan Baloch > How long till we keep losing men to these monsters?

Hizb Tahrir, LeT , Ilyas Kashmiri they all have been working silently against Pakistan and since our War on terror they have tirelessly tried to instigate an open conflict between India and Pakistan.

Gen Alvi was marked out for his role against the terror groups.

 

[rockstar08]

Wtf ?? gen was sitting without any guards around him ??
man these guys worth a lot ...
they should not be martyr like this

 

[Kompromat]

@Chak Bamu - The video is on our fb page. Please take it from there.

 

[Zarvan]

Thanks Zarvan for being the illustrative example. My purpose for tagging you is well served. One can depend upon you for saying whatever you have been saying many thousand times over.

BTW, you never told me if you have 'converted' to democracy or if you are still same old 'democracy is kufr' type?

Yes I am not supporter off democracy

 

[Kompromat]

not much is known dear. if you recall the letter of the slain general then you will know that he already knew was marked for assassination his killer(s) had same kind of immunity that is enjoyed by Malik Ishaq

That is precisely what baffles me.

There has been some work to curb HT influence within the Army and ISI, they use a very palatable vehicle that easily appeals to the younger officers and enlisted men in particular. I am certain you must have seen that video from Al-Aqsa where the HT gathered a massive crowd chanting for Pak Army to intervene in the Palestine conflict. There was not a single YO in my entire contact list that did not forward me the said video and quiz me over PA's inaction over Palestine at which point I opened up everything I know about the economy of war and question of national interest. They were unconvinced but "Yes Sir'd" me none the less as is the norm in the forces but its easy to see the appeal they generate and the feeling of common belief that they build upon. HT's entire manifesto builds around hijacking the military hierarchy and using Pakistan's military to meet their goal of establishing a caliphate.

Sir, its absolutely necessary to trace down and remove individuals or groups engaged in nurturing the young officers or soldiers ranks into HT's fascist ideology. They can go and establish a caliphate in UK, where they originate from. What we need is a gas chamber for these people. We can no longer afford our best men to be killed by petty terrorists.