Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani

[Imran Khan]

why don't this forum has INDIAN FLAG???????

its for you today we use this and letter admins will decide abut indian flag.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

If the GoP has investigated and confirmed it, then there should be no question over his identity now.

The arguments against Kasab being Pakistani were primarily the result of an Indian media gone haywire, with contradicting stories and sources all over.

With the Indian government refusing to share evidence and going on the blame game and beating war drums and making unreasonable demands, it was to be expected that Pakistanis would view the whole affair with suspicion.

All this acrimony could have been avoided had the GoI and Indian media acted a bit more responsibly.

 

[Beskar]

why don't this forum has INDIAN FLAG???????

Does any of your Indian Military forums have a PAKISTANI flag? This forum only lacks the flags of Bangladesh and Turkey. And that's about it.

 

[All-Green]

Hopefully the investigation unearths the masterminds and the powers who want India Pakistan to go to war.
This was not some ordinary plan and nearly worked to the loss of both nations!
However the shared investigation which is being proposed by GOP should be accepted by GOI in full spirit as it may unearth demons operating in both countries.

 

[HAIDER]

India is playing dirty game, ask Pakistan to accept Kasab as Pakistani, then they might let Pak official meet him. So, if he is not Pakistani thats different story, but India will shoot this news all over the world that Pakistan accepted him as his national. Which is very dirty diplomatic approach from Indians.

 

[Jihad]

So what's the next step?
And why all the apologies? As of now, India was struggling with their evidence, threatened Pakistan countless of times and acted very irresponsible in this case.
Now that is has been confirmed that Ajmal Kasab is a Pakistani national, we should be demanding excuses from the GoI or certain Indians on this board for constantly linking the GoP with these non state actors.
Also, now is the time for Pakistan and India to solve other issues regarding terrorism, terrorism in India aswell as in Pakistan.
I'm waiting to see how things will unfold, in the meantime, we'll most likely be hearing some more immature and irresponsible statements from mr Singh or Mr Mukherjee or other Indian officials.
Also, what about the attacks in Pakistan performed by Indian nationals, Pakistan should hand out evidence aswell so that the Indians can work on it.

See, in the end, all the war hysteria and foolish statements from India weren't necessary, if they had prepared their case in a normal and professional manner, everything could've been solved.
I guess the threats coming from mr Sing were aimed at the future if something similar happens again, we'll see what happens then.
All I know is, we're far from done with the current situation.

 

[thorosius]

Bullshit! This is a huge blunder from the Zardari CO. This opens a door for every other moron to accuse Pakistan of similar BS whenever he feel like having a little fun. Dogs might have better IQ than our current leaders.

 

[jehangirhaider]

But one thing is very strange:-- I will say some thing is wrong
that When Bombay attack was carried out.Indian media shows only two guys and one of them was Ajmal Kasab and later it was he was presented Pakistani.Then again and again that picture was on the all media.
This picture was in everybody mind due to excessive coverage.After Bombay drama was finished,it was claimed that one person is capture alive and then he is nominated as Pakistani.
Here question is this why his picture was released during attack why other were not shown.
Why other attacker face were badly damaged and he was only who was captured alive.

Come i will tell you with my point of view-

I will tell you here another reality every days hundred of Pakistani applies for Indian visa for trade and specially to meet their relatives in India.There are about 200 million Muslims in India.Most Muslim immigrant living in Pakistan have their relatives in India.They go there to meet them and even marries within their relatives in India.

Every year many Pakistani are arrested due visa expiry and then put into jail,so whenever any bomb blast,one is picked out of jail and presented as ISI agent.Even some are released on conspiracy and let them to meet undercover so called "Ducken Mujahideen".Then actually they are used as puppets to work with undercover RAW agent who claimed as Muslims Mujaheddin.But this tactics is used only with those who are arrested in IOK.
This is truth that many Pakistani are in IOK to help their Kashmiri brothers to fight with Indian occupied forces.Forget about Pakistani government support to those who are fighting in IOK because Kashmir is disputed area.

Note: this tactics is used in Kashmir by MARCOS who disguise as mujahid and infiltrate into many mujahid groups.

Now it is very clear from above points that how this drama was carried out. Ajmal Kasab will be fighting in IOK as Lakshar Tayaba worker.He will be arrested in IOK or in India.He will be released or chance will given to him for escape for greater conspiracy.
Now going further he will be arranged to meet undercover RAW agents who were disguise as Muslim mujahideen.Then those agents carried out this Bombay drama and he was with them.During attack he was focused and his pictures were realized on media.Then they said oh we have captured a Pakistani.

All drama....

May be some Indian here claims this is my story but i will ask them suppose we do like this in Pakistan and claim that India is involved then what they will say that this is drama by Pakistan.

You people better know that agencies can do anything...........Even Police will make the Deer to say i am Elephant.

There are so many Pakistani go to India as i mention above so it is possibility of another drama after some year in which all attackers will arrested alive and shown as Pakistani.

 

[jeypore]

was he that rude??

Yes, Infact he was 100% positive that Kasab was Indian with the rakii in his hands, and some of hindi words in his letters.

 

[IceCold]

Point is that if he is a pakistani and by the statements of our government, its almost proven that he is, why has NADRA no record of him. This shows the severe moles that are present in our system as a whole and moles that need some rectification. Even if we agree for a second that he may have been used by RAW and the whole thing planted up, how will we going to prove that, we didnt even knew that he was a Pakistani until today and if GOP knew that he was a Pakistani at the first place, then it is an act of irresponsibility on their part. But whatever maybe the case, one more Pakistani added in the list of terrorists, which will severly damage the image of Pakistan and Pakistanis, people who have nothing to do with this at the first place world wide.

 

[Neo]

Whats with all these apologies, have we completely lost our mind?
Whats next, should we smoke pot, hold hands and sing happy songs together??

Kasaab is a non state actor, a terrorist who gave up his rights to b called a muslim or a Pakistani the moment he commited this horrific crime in Mumbai.
Let India deal with him, torture or even hang him because thats what he deserves!

But there's no need to apologise for a criminal.
Did India apologise for the killings of Malegaon or the innocent cricket fan guy who came back wrapped in a bodybag?

 

[ajpirzada]

Point is that if he is a pakistani and by the statements of our government, its almost proven that he is, why has NADRA no record of him. This shows the severe moles that are present in our system as a whole and moles that need some rectification. Even if we agree for a second that he may have been used by RAW and the whole thing planted up, how will we going to prove that, we didnt even knew that he was a Pakistani until today and if GOP knew that he was a Pakistani at the first place, then it is an act of irresponsibility on their part. But whatever maybe the case, one more Pakistani added in the list of terrorists, which will severly damage the image of Pakistan and Pakistanis, people who have nothing to do with this at the first place world wide.

NADRA have only got record of those who register themselves with NADRA. there are ppl in pak who still havent registered themselves lik kasab and his family. under such situation it takes u more time to investigate about the nationality of any person. i would say it was gud that GoP didnt simply accept him as pakistani rather looked into every minute detail. atleast now we are sure he is a pakistani otherwise many of us would have been sayin that Pak came under US pressure.

 

[ajpirzada]

Whats with all these apologies, have we completely lost our mind?
Whats next, should we smoke pot, hold hands and sing happy songs together??

Kasaab is a non state actor, a terrorist who gave up his rights to b called a muslim or a Pakistani the moment he commited this horrific crime in Mumbai.
Let India deal with him, torture or even hang him because thats what he deserves!

But there's no need to apologise for a criminal.
Did India apologise for the killings of Malegaon or the innocent cricket fan guy who came back wrapped in a bodybag?

ya if we start thinkin lik that then we should never apologise for anything. but wat if i call it a difference bw indians and pakistanis. will that make u proud of us being slightly apologatic??

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Bullshit! This is a huge blunder from the Zardari CO. This opens a door for every other moron to accuse Pakistan of similar BS whenever he feel like having a little fun. Dogs might have better IQ than our current leaders.

If the GoP has verified his identity then it should accept that he is Pakistani.

There is no blunder here - how can we show ourselves to be sincere if even after our investigations confirm his identity, we refuse to acknowledge the fact?

The question is not about having every other person accuse of XYZ being Pakistani, it is about ensuring that a proper process is followed and investigations conducted to ensure that the accusations are true. That seems to be what was done in this case - the GoP conducted its investigations, waited for the Indians to hand over the evidence they had, and announced their conclusions.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the GoP position, nor was there anything wrong with its position throughout the process.

 

[IceCold]

Whats with all these apologies, have we completely lost our mind?
Whats next, should we smoke pot, hold hands and sing happy songs together??

Kasaab is a non state actor, a terrorist who gave up his rights to b called a muslim or a Pakistani the moment he commited this horrific crime in Mumbai.
Let India deal with him, torture or even hang him because thats what he deserves!

But there's no need to apologise for a criminal.
Did India apologise for the killings of Malegaon or the innocent cricket fan guy who came back wrapped in a bodybag?

Only if the world would take it that way, which i am afraid its not going to happen, even before he his identity was confirmed as a pakistani, India was accusing us for sponsoring terrorism, now that we have confirmed that he is indeed one, what do you think is going to happen, normally actions of such one asshole result in an embarrassing situation for the whole Nation/Country.