Air War Is Coming:---

[Joe Shearer]

You are deluded, I give you that. Given you are a lost Indian, your nick, your posts are proofs enough. Over and out.

Shouldn't that have been 'Out and over'? You're in sunny Britain, remember, not in misty, rain-shrouded Pakistan.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Dear Pakistanis,

Pay your taxes, and hang ba$tard$ who despite being in power multiple times, didnt build one single hospital, where they could be treatead.

As to bhakts sabre rattling - they need Pakistani blood to win the upcoming elections. The threat hasn't subsided, but InShaAllah victory will be yours, - e.g. 6 SF guys take of for a clandestine op, and the main rotor seperates . You plan, and HE plans...

Stay safe.

Khafee, I am trying to work on it since 2013. I wrote extensively, articles on websites and Pakistani newspapers websites exposing the corrupts. But alas, Pakistani nation needs education badly.
These corrupt thugs have purposefully left the masses uneducated, without health facilities, jobs, prospects, so they out of their misery start treating these Bassssssssssssstaaaaaaaaaardddddddds as celebs.
A generation/club born to rule over them.
Pakistan's democracy is a total scam and scums are running that scam.
May Allah save Pakistan from these vultures. Ameen.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Sir, ye lafz kahan se sun bethe aap?

Abdul aka @Joe Shearer is Gujrati (India) Muslim so his Urdu is basic actually he wanted to say be-wafai.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Abdul aka @Joe Shearer is Gujrati (India) Muslim so his Urdu is basic actually he wanted to say be-wafai.

Thanda pani dal diya na.

I like this word I invented on my own, without any help.....

Abdul aka @Joe Shearer is Gujrati (India) Muslim so his Urdu is basic...

with a bit of COBOL thrown in.

actually he wanted to say be-wafai.

 

[zulu]

Khafee, I am trying to work on it since 2013. I wrote extensively, articles on websites and Pakistani newspapers websites exposing the corrupts. But alas, Pakistani nation needs education badly.
These corrupt thugs have purposefully left the masses uneducated, without health facilities, jobs, prospects, so they out of their misery start treating these Bassssssssssssstaaaaaaaaaardddddddds as celebs.
A generation/club born to rule over them.
Pakistan's democracy is a total scam and scums are running that scam.
May Allah save Pakistan from these vultures. Ameen.

Hope once that india-pak recent issue resolve govt focus on getting these corrupts if u see today how much roona they start now together.Corruption on govt level should consider national treason because of its effect.Surprising thing most of these super corrupts not from poor but richest families

 

[aziqbal]

indian are still wondering how the Thunder got the jump on their Sukhoi

keep wondering

 

[Dubious]

please believe that I had nothing to do with these provocative remarks. My sincere apologies for having written in style similar to yours.

Kindly dont drag me in a fight you picked
2ndly your style is miles away from mine.

 

[Hellfire]

according to my theory joe is either a owner/co-owner or is 2nd ID of a mod/admin

Having met him, neither.

As for the quality, the problem is that the quality Pakistani members have either left, become quiet and the same has been replaced with one fanboy after another, who can not carry a conversation, has no clue and is hardly a discerning person. The unfortunate side effect of access to internet. Everyone assumes that they are more qualified than the other.

Then, you have those who are furthering their own narrative or the official national narrative, which, with evidence existing to the contrary, is a farcical attempt at best. But then, no one ever said that stupidity can not be displayed and propagated.

 

[MastanKhan]

indian are still wondering how the Thunder got the jump on their Sukhoi

keep wondering

Hi,

Yessir---indeed---that smoky---low thrust---mig21 copy---knocked the bejesus out of that monster---.

 

[Hellfire]

I do agree that PAF could not stop IAF ingress. Whether it was due to negligence or lack of resources to monitor the complete border is not something i can estimate.

It was neither. It was purely to do with the narrative that you see on this forum itself - that PM Modi is a nut job. When you feed yourself on a narrative day in and day out, you start believing your own nonsense after a period of time.

With the sustained 'modi is a nutcase' etc etc refrain, the average brain in Pakistan has got tuned to him undertaking a reckless step. And when the IAF sent 02 groups along the International boundary quite South of their target zones, Pakistanis actually fell prey to their own propaganda and believed India will launch a war by striking across International Border. The PAF vectored in available aircrafts and those further North, were re-positioned to cover the ensuing gaps. This left a large area unprotected, which was exploited. Also, the timing of the gaps which were to occur in routine, were known to our side.

An attempt to shoot down 15-20 aircraft of IAF for this kinda thing is downright silly. I wonder if in between some out-of-box thoughts @MastanKhan chooses to put in something ridiculous.

His rationale for posts is quite sensible actually. This post was one which I think we can agree was not his finest.

I am just a civilian trying not to react to one-sided information - hence i need to take both perspectives into account and yet see what is our gain in this.

@Oscar said that PAF achieved air superiority. I allowed myself to agree with him, while still believing that an F-16 can be shot.

Where did PAF reach Air Superiority? Care to elaborate?

Can MKIs dodge 4+ AIM-120C5 with the electronic countermeasures that MKI and other assets have - this in the context of the air battle that actually took place.

Both sides had jammers, hence, the difficulty in acquisition of targets. Additionally, IAF had ROE imposed as I have explained earlier and PAF was egressing from the zone. Every jammer has got a burn through range, and that is generally where you can either use your BVRAAM or an IR guided missile.

F-16 was bagged with an IR guided missile. Mig by an A2A missile..

If it is true that a lot of PAF aircraft came and we had less aircraft to push them back, then what to make of this?

What do you want to make of it?

Pakistani members have put forth their versions, in some detail, of what actually happened. Indian members have not.

Not here. Because frankly, no one wants an idiotic conversation where the laws of physics also get reinvented. I made that mistake here, of asking the question on how can a claim of another IAF pilot being in their custody be corroborated with the theory put forth by them that the Pilot ejected from a Su-30 MKI and landed in their side and the Su-30 MKI landed in Indian side? That too when the IAF aircrafts were in a westerly direction on an intercept vector and the wind was west to east?

That thread was closed soon thereafter.

You are an Indian busting fantasies of fellow Indians, while i meant Pakistanis in an Indian forum counter-arguing Indians. At least BR seems bad in this aspect.

And I am doing what I am doing in an Indian owned platform. The time is to make people discern facts, as hyperbole is too easy to accept but the consequences of the same can be dangerous.

BR, I have never joined. This was the place I joined long back, and it had good quality discussion. Then the generation came on board, which grew up reading the Zia version of books. And the rest, as they say, is history.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Kindly dont drag me in a fight you picked
2ndly your style is miles away from mine.

You were dragged in by somebody else, not by me.
For the second, I was being sarcastic; for the reality, I thank God, on my knees, fasting.

 

[Mrc]

Where did PAF reach Air Superiority? Care to elaborate?

In iok when they struck 6 targets as far as nararayan 80 kms from borders... Near budgam... Where u lost that heli... Shot down another 2 of your air craft and happily returned home without sustaining a loss... While rest of su 30s refused to engage

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Fantasy thought process that further escalation will take place prior to election. Maybe MK is bored out of his mind and wants an air war so he can sit on this couch and enjoy from far distance.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

Hi,

There were two groups of aircraft coming in---one of around 14---and the other of around 25---30

I’v heard so many different stories on the number of aircraft coming in....

I think we’l only know once a documentary is made on this a few years down the line

 

[Riz]

Hi,

There were two groups of aircraft coming in---one of around 14---and the other of around 25---30

Brother... Firstly i want to tell you that both countries crossed the loc only 3 to 4 km... 2ndly as you very well aware this is 5th generation of war . India only was looking for a reason to air its propaganda like they did once before when they announced there first surgical strike inside Pakistan... Their first surgical strike was imagery they noted our behavior they noted world behavior... They check mated is at that time as we were not having such clue and how to dealt with imaginary strike... Now we did right we have strategy, in future we will make their every official announcement costlier for them.. Means in future if they only announced officially that IAF strikes sargodha airbase it means we have a solid reason to hit back their base as they announced officially . And neither country will condemn us as like our last response