Ahmadis community is facing dire threat

[pak-marine]

there is no such thing in passport form, all it says that I solemnly believe prophet Muhammad to be the last prophet...

well in that case i will suggest you to take a trip down passport office , here is a link read 16 (c) it on pg 3 , below is the link i have also tried pasting the image see if it comes if not try the link and experience your self.

http://www.embassyofpakistanusa.org/forms/A form fillable.pdf

 

[Ahmad]

Yes because Non Muslims are Non Muslims whats the problem with that ?

Strange that this is coming from you.

 

[lem34]

Ok so ahmedies are non muslim there is no argument that they are pakistanis. Pakistani citizens should be protected by the state against injustice, If ahmedies do anything wrong let the law deal with it. Please pakistani brothers do not judge each other.

 

[pak-marine]

Ok so ahmedies are non muslim there is no argument that they are pakistanis. Pakistani citizens should be protected by the state against injustice, If ahmedies do anything wrong let the law deal with it. Please pakistani brothers do not judge each other.

its as simple as that ... ahmedi or any minority is a pakistani first

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

i find it strange how non muslims r telling us to accept some non muslims as muslims lol

some of our brothers r confused we accept ahmadies as pakistanies but let them abide by the constitution of the country and stop calling themselves muslims and nobody should harm them anyway but let them show they law obedient citizen 1st.

TARIQ

 

[lem34]

Assalam alaikum

i find it strange how non muslims r telling us to accept some non muslims as muslims lol

some of our brothers r confused we accept ahmadies as pakistanies but let them abide by the constitution of the country and stop calling themselves muslims and nobody should harm them anyway but let them show they law obedient citizen 1st.

TARIQ

tariqbhai you and i see eye to eye normaly. but it is not for a citizen to be seen as guilty and have to prove he is innocent. its the other way. the accuser has to prove or show

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Assalam alaikum

i find it strange how non muslims r telling us to accept some non muslims as muslims lol


TARIQ

let us not provide them ammunition

 

[notsuperstitious]

Yes because Non Muslims are Non Muslims whats the problem with that ?

Know your non-muslims! Always the first step

Sir even Muslim Countries don't have a problem with Christians calling JESUS SON of GOD because its their believe

Sorry to say but you have absolutely no idea what you type. I hope you are very young and will one day find out that education goes beyond sloganeering and religion goes beyond righteousness.

 

[Leader]

Forget constitution .. go to passport office and get the new application form , there is an under taking right below that , declaring Qadiyanis non muslims.

there is no such thing in passport form, all it says that I solemnly believe prophet Muhammad to be the last prophet...

 

[Porus]

The Ahmedi community was a stalwart supporter of Pakistan movement, they sacrificed their lives and wealth for the sake of this counrty. Among those hundreds of thousands of Muslim Punjabis who lost their lives in the riots during partition many were Ahmedis.

Mullahs were generally against the creation of Pakistan. For them Jinaah was kafir e azam and his creation napakistan.

Ahmedis, who fought and sacrificed for Pakistan, were declared non-Muslims after its creation and thereby became unwelcome guests in their own country, and Mullahs became the owner of Islam ka Qila and the defender of its ideology.

Who else played a vital role in the creation of Pakista?

Sindhis, Bengalis and Nawab Akbar Bugti, who as the chief of Bugti tribe voted in favour of Pakitsan in 1946. Go figure!

 

[Ahmad Abdullah Ravian]

There is so much in this thread worth noticing and reading , I want to point out one thing only ,Please for ALLAH sake , don't use the word AHMEDIS for this religion , as this is name of our HOLY PROPHET (S.W.W) , and some ignorant muslims take these people as a Firqa of Islam due to this name ,which is not true at any cost or level .They are totally different and declared KAAFIR no doubt . Their original name ,their old name "QADYANIS" or "MARZAY" should be used for proper identification. And I hope all recognize the importance of words and labels



and i hope the Qadyani membesr of the forum acknowledge that this is the true name of their religion ,their prophet "MIRZA GULLAM Ahmed QADYANI " choosed !!!!!!!!!

 

[Zarvan]

there is no such thing in passport form, all it says that I solemnly believe prophet Muhammad to be the last prophet...

Sir that is the basic point because of which Ahmadies are non Muslims because they say Mirza is the one

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Know your non-muslims! Always the first step



Sorry to say but you have absolutely no idea what you type. I hope you are very young and will one day find out that education goes beyond sloganeering and religion goes beyond righteousness.

Sir I Know thanks to ALLAH if you want to have a talk lets have a talk Christians believe Jesus as son of GOD its their believe we never threatened them for this

 

[Ahmad Abdullah Ravian]

The Ahmedi community was a stalwart supporter of Pakistan movement, they sacrificed their lives and wealth for the sake of this counrty. Among those hundreds of thousands of Muslim Punjabis who lost their lives in the riots during partition many were Ahmedis.

Mullahs were generally against the creation of Pakistan. For them Jinaah was kafir e azam and his creation napakistan.



Ahmedis, who fought and sacrificed for Pakistan, were declared non-Muslims after its creation and thereby became unwelcome guests in their own country, and Mullahs became the owner of Islam ka Qila and the defender of its ideology.

Who else played a vital role in the creation of Pakista?

Sindhis, Bengalis and Nawab Akbar Bugti, who as the chief of Bugti tribe voted in favour of Pakitsan in 1946. Go figure!

You seem too much over confident , Mullahs were generally against the creation of Pakistan. For them Jinaah was kafir e azam you are totally wrong and twisting the history , only one jammaat of ULAMA " JAMAYAT E ULMA HIND" was against Pakistan and for your information most of its members choosed to live in INDIA ,
It is an open truth that if a large group of ULAMA was not with Quiad ,the Islamic LOvers ( you call them extremist) of SARHAD and Tribal areas would never had voted Islam ,
and talking about Qadyanis , I have old newspaper cutting and books about that , and in one of them the KALIPH of QADYANIS of the round about 1940-1950's time clearly should his true colors for Pakistan ( i am not quoting him as this Forum seems not aprprt to me for such , but if u want to see them there are many ways , the only need is a true Quest )

 

[Ahmad Abdullah Ravian]

Sir that is the basic point because of which Ahmadies are non Muslims because they say Mirza is the one

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Sir I Know thanks to ALLAH if you want to have a talk lets have a talk Christians believe Jesus as son of GOD its their believe we never threatened them for this

Well said DUDE , our main concern against QADYANIS is that the dis-honour our dearest PROPHET MUHAMMAD (S.W.W) and our ISLAM is the basis of their religion

 

[Zarvan]

The Ahmedi community was a stalwart supporter of Pakistan movement, they sacrificed their lives and wealth for the sake of this counrty. Among those hundreds of thousands of Muslim Punjabis who lost their lives in the riots during partition many were Ahmedis.

Mullahs were generally against the creation of Pakistan. For them Jinaah was kafir e azam and his creation napakistan.

Ahmedis, who fought and sacrificed for Pakistan, were declared non-Muslims after its creation and thereby became unwelcome guests in their own country, and Mullahs became the owner of Islam ka Qila and the defender of its ideology.

Who else played a vital role in the creation of Pakista?

Sindhis, Bengalis and Nawab Akbar Bugti, who as the chief of Bugti tribe voted in favour of Pakitsan in 1946. Go figure!

Mr sorry you said wrong about Ulemas most Ulemas stood with PAkistan let me tell you name of some ALLAMA SHABBIR AHMED USMANI 2 ALLAMA MUHAMMAD SHAFI he is the father of Molana Taqi Usmani 3 Molana Ashraf Ali Thanvi 4 Pir Mehr Ali Shah 5 Pir Anayat and many more

 

[Ahmad Abdullah Ravian]

Mr sorry you said wrong about Ulemas most Ulemas stood with PAkistan let me tell you name of some ALLAMA SHABBIR AHMED USMANI 2 ALLAMA MUHAMMAD SHAFI he is the father of Molana Taqi Usmani 3 Molana Ashraf Ali Thanvi 4 Pir Mehr Ali Shah 5 Pir Anayat and many more

Ofcourse , and for addition in this post these all ULAMA unite under the banner of "JAMAYAT e ULAMA ISLAM " in counter of a less members comprising "JAMAYAT e ULAMA HIND" , JAMAYAT e ULAMA ISLAM was always with Pakistan no doubt and did much for the honour