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Yes, Delivery will start by 2017 and might end in 2018.
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wat it means exactly?
Pakistan being the launch export customer of the AH-1Z basically got a whole bunch of other countries (e.g. Australia) interested in the platform. Bell expects the sales to start flowing now, big time.wat it means exactly?
is pakistan expecting commission then?Pakistan being the launch export customer of the AH-1Z basically got a whole bunch of other countries (e.g. Australia) interested in the platform. Bell expects the sales to start flowing now, big time.
I doubt it, but if it requests more AH-1Zs (likely), Bell better be there to drive the order home in Congress.is pakistan expecting commission then?
i was being rhetorical. why else do you think the turks were desperate to sell the t129 to Pakistan. heck if they like it, and pakistan using the kit like this often then its gonna be good so it is seen as a catalyst for future orders. i think the zulu's are competing for a order in Poland and Australia as the tigers are being scrapped as they were not even used once.I doubt it, but if it requests more AH-1Zs (likely), Bell better be there to drive the order home in Congress.
I think America's intentions are multi-layered. There was definitely a commercial aspect to releasing the AH-1Zs: Pakistan is locked in COIN and is expected to use the AH-1Zs as soon as they're cleared for combat. Australia, Poland and others are definitely keeping an eye on Pakistan. That said, there is another dimension to the U.S.' decision to release the AH-1Zs, which is the fact that equipment transfers such as this help it maintain influence in Pakistan's policy circles. It is the same story as the F-16s (and OHPs had Congress not botched it).i was being rhetorical. why else do you think the turks were desperate to sell the t129 to Pakistan. heck if they like it, and pakistan using the kit like this often then its gonna be good so it is seen as a catalyst for future orders. i think the zulu's are competing for a order in Poland and Australia as the tigers are being scrapped as they were not even used once.
uncle sam isn't stupid i bet they saw this coming. and they had to act fast as the mil-35 was being sold then.
it is quite interesting to see the usa refuse to sell kit to them, but when other countries step in to fill the void uncle sam just pushes through and nabs the deal.
well the major offense is nearly over rearding coin, 15 zulus have been ordered by paa and it is a small number so i would expect them to order more, so i would expect this to be more of a trail batch as you did not may more for them as it was subsidised soit not much of a loss. also note that the lower spec supercobrashave the exact same air frame so they can be butchered for parts to upkeet te zulus. also you have ordered 32 ge engines so you have 2 spare engines there.I think America's intentions are multi-layered. There was definitely a commercial aspect to releasing the AH-1Zs: Pakistan is locked in COIN and is expected to use the AH-1Zs as soon as they're cleared for combat. Australia, Poland and others are definitely keeping an eye on Pakistan. That said, there is another dimension to the U.S.' decision to release the AH-1Zs, which is the fact that equipment transfers such as this help it maintain influence in Pakistan's policy circles. It is the same story as the F-16s (and OHPs had Congress not botched it).
The Australian and Polish orders notwithstanding, Bell is probably expecting Pakistan to order at least a few additional AH-1Zs. While I do think the PAA will eventually buy Z-10s from China, it probably won't happen until it is outfitted with more powerful turboshafts. Until then, the AH-1Z will gradually and incrementally form the mainstay of the dedicated attack helicopter fleet.
I agree. The numerical edge can only be had through the Z-10, but I do think we'll see a few additional AH-1Zs. Production has just started and Bell is anticipating additional export orders from other buyers. If there's a time to buy AH-1Zs in incremental batches (e.g. 5 here, 5 there, 5 somewhere, etc).At anyone time there is no more than 10 to 12 Cobras on the frontline due to condition of the air craft and air frame
Getting 15 vipers means having high number of them ready to go on short notice
Ideally more the better but we are talking more $$$
T129 is a high end engineered product again $$$
Z-10 is only option for high number of attack helos
There's room for it to mature and we should build like a PAC version of it in Multan
Having JF-17 and Z-10 programme in Pakistan would be good for our industry
We should have invested in this rotary wing sector years ago
No, its not cancelled. It takes a few years for manufacturing and delivery, not to mention training to take place.Is this deal canceled? Its been a while since we heard any news.