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Afzal Guru hanged

The purpose,here,is to enlighten you with the truth.You are already loaded with a preoccupation that Afzal was innocent.But he admitted to his crimes himself.Simple logic,he was guilty.


The Truth about Afzal Guru and Indian trial




Wasn’t it? Yesterday I mean. Spring announced itself in Delhi. The sun was out, and the Law took its Course. Just before breakfast, Afzal Guru, prime accused in the 2001 Parliament Attack was secretly hanged, and his body was interred in Tihar Jail. Was he buried next to Maqbool Butt? (The other Kashmiri who was hanged in Tihar in 1984. Kashmiris will mark that anniversary tomorrow.) Afzal’s wife and son were not informed. “The Authorities intimated the family through Speed Post and Registered Post,” the Home Secretary told the press, “the Director General of J&K Police has been told to check whether they got it or not.” No big deal, they’re only the family of a Kashmiri terrorist.


In a moment of rare unity the Nation, or at least its major political parties, the Congress, the BJP and the CPM came together as one (barring a few squabbles about ‘delay’ and ‘timing’) to celebrate the triumph of the Rule of Law. The Conscience of the Nation, which broadcasts live from TV studios these days, unleashed its collective intellect on us — the usual cocktail of papal passion and a delicate grip on facts. Even though the man was dead and gone, like cowards that hunt in packs, they seemed to need each other to keep their courage up. Perhaps because deep inside themselves they know that they all colluded to do something terribly wrong.



What are the facts?


On the 13th of December 2001 five armed men drove through the gates of the Parliament House in a white Ambassador fitted out with an Improvised Explosive Device. When they were challenged they jumped out of the car and opened fire. They killed eight security personnel and a gardener. In the gun battle that followed, all five attackers were killed.


In one of the many versions of confessions he made in police custody, Afzal Guru identified the men as Mohammed, Rana, Raja, Hamza and Haider. That’s all we know about them even today. L.K. Advani, the then Home Minister, said they ‘looked like Pakistanis.’ (He should know what Pakistanis look like right? Being a Sindhi himself.) Based only on Afzal’s confession (which the Supreme Court subsequently set aside citing ‘lapses’ and ‘violations of procedural safeguards’)
the Government of India recalled its Ambassador from Pakistan and mobilised half a million soldiers to the Pakistan border. There was talk of nuclear war. Foreign embassies issued Travel Advisories and evacuated their staff from Delhi. The standoff lasted for months and cost India thousands of crores.


On the 14th of December 2001 the Delhi Police Special Cell claimed it had cracked the case. On the 15th of December it arrested the ‘master mind’ Professor S.A.R Geelani in Delhi and Showkat Guru and Afzal Guru in a fruit market in Srinagar. Subsequently they arrested Afsan Guru, Showkat’s wife. The media enthusiastically disseminated the Special Cell’s version. These were some of the headlines: ‘DU Lecturer was Terror Plan Hub’, ‘Varsity Don Guided Fidayeen’, ‘Don Lectured on Terror in Free Time.’ Zee TV broadcast a ‘docudrama’ called December 13th , a recreation that claimed to be the ‘Truth Based on the Police Charge Sheet.’ (If the police version is the truth, then why have courts?) Then Prime Minister Vajpayee and L.K. Advani publicly appreciated the film.


The Supreme Court refused to stay the screening saying that the media would not influence judges. The film was broadcast only a few days before the fast track court sentenced Afzal, Showkat and Geelani to death. Subsequently the High Court acquitted the ‘mastermind’, Professor S.A.R Geelani, and Afsan Guru. The Supreme Court upheld the acquittal. But in its 5th August 2005 judgment it gave Mohammed Afzal three life sentences and a double death sentence.


Contrary to the lies that have been put about by some senior journalists who would have known better, Afzal Guru was not one of “the terrorists who stormed Parliament House on December 13th 2001” nor was he among those who “opened fire on security personnel, apparently killing three of the six who died.” (That was the BJP Rajya Sabha MP, Chandan Mitra, in The Pioneer, October 7th 2006). Even the police charge sheet does not accuse him of that. The Supreme Court judgment says the evidence is circumstantial: “As is the case with most conspiracies, there is and could be no direct evidence amounting to criminal conspiracy.” But then it goes on to say: “The incident, which resulted in heavy casualties had shaken the entire nation, and the collective conscience of society will only be satisfied if capital punishment is awarded to the offender.”

Who crafted our collective conscience on the Parliament Attack case? Could it have been the facts we gleaned from the papers? The films we saw on TV?


There are those who will argue that the very fact that the courts acquitted S.A.R Geelani and convicted Afzal proves that the trial was free and fair. Was it?



The trial in the fast-track court began in May 2002. The world was still convulsed by post 9/11 frenzy. The US government was gloating prematurely over its ‘victory’ in Afghanistan. The Gujarat pogrom was ongoing. And in the Parliament Attack case, the Law was indeed taking its own course. At the most crucial stage of a criminal case, when evidence is presented, when witnesses are cross-examined, when the foundations of the argument are laid — in the High Court and the Supreme Court you can only argue points of law, you cannot introduce new evidence — Afzal Guru, locked in a high security solitary cell, had no lawyer. The court-appointed junior lawyer did not visit his client even once in jail, he did not summon any witnesses in Afzal’s defence and did not cross examine the prosecution witnesses. The judge expressed his inability to do anything about the situation.

Even still, from the word go, the case fell apart. A few examples out of many:


How did the police get to Afzal? They said that S.A.R Geelani led them to him. But the court records show that the message to arrest Afzal went out before they picked up Geelani. The High Court called this a ‘material contradiction’ but left it at that.


The two most incriminating pieces of evidence against Afzal were a cellphone and a laptop confiscated at the time of arrest. The Arrest Memos were signed by Bismillah, Geelani’s brother, in Delhi. The Seizure Memos were signed by two men of the J&K Police, one of them an old tormentor from Afzal’s past as a surrendered ‘militant’. The computer and cellphone were not sealed, as evidence is required to be. During the trial it emerged that the hard disc of the laptop had been accessed after the arrest. It only contained the fake home ministry passes and the fake identity cards that the terrorists used to access Parliament. And a Zee TV video clip of Parliament House. So according to the police, Afzal had deleted all the information except the most incriminating bits, and he was speeding off to hand it over to Ghazi Baba, who the charge sheet described as the Chief of Operations.



A witness for the prosecution, Kamal Kishore, identified Afzal and told the court he had sold him the crucial SIM card that connected all the accused in the case to each other on the 4th of December 2001. But the prosecution’s own call records showed that the SIM was actually operational from November 6th 2001.


It goes on and on, this pile up of lies and fabricated evidence. The courts note them, but for their pains the police get no more than a gentle rap on their knuckles. Nothing more.

Then there’s the back story. Like most surrendered militants Afzal was easy meat in Kashmir — a victim of torture, blackmail, extortion. In the larger scheme of things he was a nobody. Anyone who was really interested in solving the mystery of the Parliament Attack would have followed the dense trail of evidence that was on offer. No one did, thereby ensuring that the real authors of conspiracy will remain unidentified and uninvestigated.


But now that Afzal Guru has been hanged, I hope our collective conscience has been satisfied. Or is our cup of blood still only half full?



The Hindu : Opinion / Lead : A perfect day for democracy
 
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Nobody in India cares what Arundhati Roy has to say. As usual, what she leaves out (interview etc..) is more damning than what she puts in.

Read what she said is documented during the trial.

all these points need to be answered.

at the end of the story is the fact that you found a scapgoat for not finding the truth
 
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@imran_ind is not an Ansari... lol. Are you?
If he is he is a brother to me regardless of which house he is from. We are from Firangi mahal. Imran do you deny these things happen and may happen to people (Muslims) in India. You might not have met such families as it happens to a small proportion but... I doubt he will deny this.


I am not even a Muslim, but a Christian.. Do not start with your relative told you about how Christians are treated here in India.. I am not saying that we are a land of honey and milk.. Offcource, there are.. Our media, our people, our judicary etc acted against it and plight of the people were heard many times.. Our own government found out and acted against the so called saffron terrorism rather than pushing it under the carpet.. So dont talk about the bullshit of minorities are harmed all the time here in India.. Infact we are much better than minorities of any of the muslim countries..

I am talking about the posts that usually go like:

You are an idiot
You are shizophrenic
You are not a fit think tank. lol. As if Indians now decide who is fit and who is not.

These kind of posts happens when you make tall claims and ask for proof, you will say your distant relative told you this.. Is it mandatory in this forum to provide valid links when you claim something? Or you think you have an exception for this??

Ignorance is bliss! You want posts that are only positive. I try to circumvent this by criticizing both India and Pakistan but it is your incapability to think there is another side to the issue. Infact a lot of Muslim families discuss the framing of innocent Muslims in the confines of their houses. Why would our families tell you? So that you declare them Pakistani and send mobs saying mini-Pakistan, mini-Pakistan...

I am not saying I wanted only positive news.. You are welcome crticize my country and point us the problems of this country.. But I wanted valid evidence for that.. Not your rant about your relative told you so.. Dude, muslims have the right to speak out their mind and they practice their right all the times some times for some silly reasons too.. Latest expample is the protest against a film because it shows Terrorist read Quran.. I didnt see any one calling them terrorists or send mobs to their home saying mini Pakistan.. So stop your bullshit about that also..

As I said, feel free to crticize and say any ill things happend in our country.. But provide valid evidences for this.. Not the rant about what your relatives told you..
 
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Read what she said is documented during the trial.

all these points need to be answered.

at the end of the story is the fact that you found a scapgoat for not finding the truth

No need to read any of that nonsense.. You may decide to and that's your prerogative :)

The judiciary in India has taken a decision on this, which is good enough for us.. Thankfully, unlike our neighbor, our judiciary is not looking for excuses to let the terrorists go free..
 
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i feel sorry for the attackers.They should have killed every body in parliament.
India would have been better place
 
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No need to read any of that nonsense.. You may decide to and that's your prerogative :)

The judiciary in India has taken a decision on this, which is good enough for us.. Thankfully, unlike our neighbor, our judiciary is not looking for excuses to let the terrorists go free..

Your judiciary dont need any evidence to convict innocent people.

You failed to face the facts pointed in the story
 
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I am not even a Muslim, but a Christian.. Do not start with your relative told you about how Christians are treated here in India.. I am not saying that we are a land of honey and milk.. Offcource, there are.. Our media, our people, our judicary etc acted against it and plight of the people were heard many times.. Our own government found out and acted against the so called saffron terrorism rather than pushing it under the carpet.. So dont talk about the bullshit of minorities are harmed all the time here in India.. Infact we are much better than minorities of any of the muslim countries..

I am a minority in my own land. Not in the sense of spirituality but in the sense of ideology. I support secularism and am myself a minority. So I sympathize with the plight of minorities worldwide.

Why does RSS still operate? Wasn't it an RSS thug who killed Gandhi ji?

These kind of posts happens when you make tall claims and ask for proof, you will say your distant relative told you this.. Is it mandatory in this forum to provide valid links when you claim something? Or you think you have an exception for this??

You can choose to avoid or ignore my evidence. It is no concern. When I provide links which I did in the first post they are still an issue.
I am not saying I wanted only positive news.. You are welcome crticize my country and point us the problems of this country.. But I wanted valid evidence for that.. Not your rant about your relative told you so.. Dude, muslims have the right to speak out their mind and they practice their right all the times some times for some silly reasons too.. Latest expample is the protest against a film because it shows Terrorist read Quran.. I didnt see any one calling them terrorists or send mobs to their home saying mini Pakistan.. So stop your bullshit about that also..

Happened in Gujarat. I can give you witness testimony. I gave you the judge example already.

As I said, feel free to crticize and say any ill things happend in our country.. But provide valid evidences for this.. Not the rant about what your relatives told you..

Lol. I think you are trying to deflect issues prevailing in your society. I will admit all families do not suffer but even if 5% of all Muslim families lose a relative in some act of violence it should be acted upon. Your police fails to act.
 
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Your judiciary dont need any evidence to convict innocent people.

You failed to face the facts pointed in the story

IMHO its the lawyers who failed to stress the facts presented, the investigation being shoddy only points to incompetence rather than being biased, I hope you understand that.
 
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Read what she said is documented during the trial.

all these points need to be answered.

at the end of the story is the fact that you found a scapgoat for not finding the truth

I actually did read that. However the video evidence is still there(I don't think the courts concerned themselves with the video). So whatever he was, a innocent scapegoat was not one of them.
 
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IMHO its the lawyers who failed to stress the facts presented, the investigation being shoddy only points to incompetence rather than being biased, I hope you understand that.

who's lawyers?

my point is simple i will copy past from the write up here hopefully you will understand



Then there’s the back story. Like most surrendered militants Afzal was easy meat in Kashmir — a victim of torture, blackmail, extortion. In the larger scheme of things he was a nobody. Anyone who was really interested in solving the mystery of the Parliament Attack would have followed the dense trail of evidence that was on offer. No one did, thereby ensuring that the real authors of conspiracy will remain unidentified and uninvestigated

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmir-war/234051-afzal-guru-hanged-18.html#ixzz2KUYLXySK
 
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IMHO its the lawyers who failed to stress the facts presented, the investigation being shoddy only points to incompetence rather than being biased, I hope you understand that.

Quite likely! I read somewhere that the lawyer appointed to Afzal was a junior one and did not visit him even once in jail . He neither summoned any witness in Afzal's defence nor cross examined the witnesses of the prosecution.
 
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I am a minority in my own land. Not in the sense of spirituality but in the sense of ideology. I support secularism and am myself a minority. So I sympathize with the plight of minorities worldwide.

Please don't.. Most of the problems happend to muslims and other minorities all over the world is because of the crocodile tears of Ummah and minority lovers like you... Just leave us alone and we are fine here in India.. I am living along with lot of Hindus around here and I am very much comfortable with them..
Why does RSS still operate? Wasn't it an RSS thug who killed Gandhi ji?

Why you are bringing RSS here?? Going offtopic to offtopic here.. FYI Godse was an ex RSS guy who thought that RSS is not militant enough..

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh was temporarily banned after the assasination of Gandhiji However, investigators could find no evidence that the RSS bureaucracy had formally sponsored or even knew of Godse's plot. The RSS ban was lifted by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and Vallabhbhai Patel in 1949.[from Wiki]

You can choose to avoid or ignore my evidence. It is no concern. When I provide links which I did in the first post they are still an issue.

What evidence? Links from Khalistan movment and Christian one newpaper? Yup, credible enough.. You can find even more credble links from rupee news


Happened in Gujarat. I can give you witness testimony. I gave you the judge example already.

Gujrat was a riot between Hindus and Muslims, started with the burning of the Train carrying Hindus.. Don't say that Muslims were innocent there.. Both were equally responsible.. But I would like to see a link about what judge told..
Lol. I think you are trying to deflect issues prevailing in your society. I will admit all families do not suffer but even if 5% of all Muslim families lose a relative in some act of violence it should be acted upon. Your police fails to act.


Where did you see I am trying to deflect issues prevailing in my society?? I said you are free to crticize my country with valid evidence which you find very hard to provide..
 
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