After Saudi-Iran, China wants to displace America. But won’t be ‘policeman of the world’

[etylo]

Without USA protection of world commerce, with the old world order of European colonies, China would be worst.

So show some gratitude to the Americans

Thanks US and the European colonizers for invading, looting and extracting large amout of wealth from China, thanks of US for provoking and imposing the Korean war on China, thanks US for blockading and sanctioning China since 1949 till 1980s, Thanks US for waging trade war and total containment of China for the past decade, the list goes on...., and thanks China for providing all the affordable products to US consumers over the decades. I think Chinese need no lectures fron you Spanish on how China should be grateful to US evil designs over the years on China. LOL.

 

[BHAN85]

Thanks US and the European colonizers for invading, looting and extracting large amout of wealth from China, thanks of US for provoking and imposing the Korean war on China, thanks US for blockading and sanctioning China since 1949 till 1980s, Thanks US for waging trade war and total containment of China for the past decade, the list goes on...., and thanks China for providing all the affordable products to US consumers over the decades. I think Chinese need no lectures fron you Spanish on how China should be grateful to US evil designs over the years on China. LOL.

It could be worst.

Just think world order before WWII and it would keep until today.

We dont have another planet to compare a world without USA.

But 77 years without world wars and counting, thanks USA.

 

[nahtanbob]

ah. On behalf of North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Haiti, Panama, Syria, Iraq, Libya thank you.

tell us how many Pakistanis emigrate to those countries

 

[etylo]

It could be worst.

Just think world order before WWII and it would keep until today.

We dont have another planet to compare a world without USA.

But 77 years without world wars and counting, thanks USA.

77 years without world war, thanks to nukes for MAD, not becos of US benevolence and leadership. How many wars has US waged and participated since 1945 ? Too many. Your reasoning is laughable.

 

[renhai]

tell us how many Pakistanis emigrate to those countries

???

 

[nahtanbob]

???

tell us how many Pakistanis emigrate to North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Haiti, Panama, Syria, Iraq, Libya

 

[Zsari]

China commerce have developed under the umbrella of US hegemony and security.

World commerce as we know was a absolute impossible thing before US hegemony.

And the country who more take advantage of that currently is China.

The ancient civilizations has been trading with each other for eons. To say world commerce is impossible without US hegemony is beyond ridiculous.

 

[BHAN85]

77 years without world war, thanks to nukes for MAD, not becos of US benevolence and leadership. How many wars has US waged and participated since 1945 ? Too many. Your reasoning is laughable.

You're very daring, I recognize my ignorance but you dont.

We know how many wars USA has done, but we dont know how many wars USA has avoided, and we can't know it.

But you can guess, just think how was the world before 1945.

Europe was a constant war zone, until USA came it.

The ancient civilizations has been trading with each other for eons. To say world commerce is impossible without US hegemony is beyond ridiculous.

It was not like today.

It was colonial commerce, one master and one slave.

The world of sovereign states and free world commerce is post WWII and thanks to USA.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

the world is bigger then five

 

[renhai]

tell us how many Pakistanis emigrate to North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Haiti, Panama, Syria, Iraq, Libya

???

 

[Nan Yang]

China commerce have developed under the umbrella of US hegemony and security.

World commerce as we know was a absolute impossible thing before US hegemony.

And the country who more take advantage of that currently is China.

LOL. Read Clinton's justification for China to join WTO.

It's more about US corporations making money more about jobs for US and more about creating an environment for regime change in China.

 

[Nan Yang]

Without USA protection of world commerce, with the old world order of European colonies, China would be worst.

So show some gratitude to the Americans

You are very naive.

US trade practice are predatory. Just look at Eastern Europe.

During the 1998 Asian financial crisis Western funds managers suck billions of wealth from poor third world countries to enrich the already rich Western countries.

Then the US corporations went in to take over what's left.

 

[_Nabil_]

We know how many wars USA has done, but we dont know how many wars USA has avoided, and we can't know it.

This is EPIC, sooo hilarious

Give us a "thank you" to Hitler, Mussolini, ... They also probably avoided some wars too ,

 

[Kaniska]

After Saudi-Iran, China wants to displace America. But won’t be ‘policeman of the world’​

Xi’s upcoming meeting with Putin & chat with Zelenskyy part of vision to undercut US influence via the Global Security Initiative.
AADIL BRAR
15 March, 2023 07:58 am IST

Chinese President Xi Jinping | Representational image| kremlin.ru

China’s forays in the Middle East and Europe to strike diplomatic deals is part of its agenda to emerge as a country that can provide an alternative security architecture, which has been the underlying feature of Washington’s current hegemony in the international order. What we are witnessing with the recent China-brokered Saudi-Iran diplomatic deal and President Xi Jinping’s upcoming meeting with Russia’s Vladimir Putin and chat with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a vision to undercut US influence.

At the heart of China’s strategic mission to develop alternative security mechanisms and woo countries away from the US is its Global Security Initiative (GSI). Xi had first proposed GSI at the Boao Forum for Asia conference on 21 April 2022, but few details were offered for its rationale.

In February this year, Beijing released a white paper on the initiative. “The GSI aims to eliminate the root causes of international conflicts, improve global security governance, encourage joint international efforts to bring more stability and certainty to a volatile and changing era, and promote durable peace and development in the world,” it read.

While concluding the dialogue between Saudi Arabia and Iranian delegations, Wang Yi, director of China’s foreign affairs commission, said the talks have “become a successful practice for the strong implementation of the Global Security Initiative.”

The GSI white paper also mentioned hosting ‘the Middle East Security Forum’ as part of Beijing’s security architecture vision.

Even China’s expert community has linked the diplomatic détente between Riyadh and Tehran to GSI.

“The trust of Saudi Arabia and Iran in China, the friendly relations between China and the two sides, China’s influence and international reputation as a major power, and China’s global security initiatives have all laid the foundation for China to mediate relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran,” said Liu Zhongmin, professor at Middle East Studies Institute of Shanghai International Studies University.

Alternative security architecture​

When it comes to Beijing’s publicly stated position on foreign policy, it is important to remember that one can’t take everything at face value. But what’s clear is that the GSI seeks to present China as an alternative security guarantor and negotiator in international conflict and diplomatic disputes.

“Promote coordination and sound interaction among major countries and build a major country relationship featuring peaceful coexistence, overall stability and balanced development. Major countries shoulder particularly important responsibilities of maintaining international peace and security. Call on major countries to lead by example in honouring equality, good faith, cooperation and the rule of law, and in complying with the UN Charter and international law,” read the GSI white paper.

Beijing has spent years cultivating economic ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In fact, Beijing is Riyadh’s biggest trading partner, with their bilateral trade amounting to $87.3 billion in 2021. The economic entanglement has allowed Beijing to whisper in Riyadh’s ears which have been glued to the White House for decades.

Now, Riyadh appears to be comfortable talking seriously with Beijing about its security concerns.

“Middle Eastern countries are increasingly hoping that China can go beyond economic engagement and should help solve security problems,” said Fan Hongda, a professor at the Middle East Studies Institute in an interview with Financial Times.

Beijing is also paying attention to the details of how it conducts diplomacy. The documents and the negotiations in Beijing between Saudi, Iranian and Chinese teams were in Arabic, Farsi and Chinese. Beijing’s plans have minutia like using English — an extension of US power — in mind.

A new world of fractured geopolitics​

The success of Saudi-Iran talks has given an impression that Beijing can broker peace between Russia and Ukraine. But if we assume that Beijing intends to become peacemaker-in-chief, then we are flawed in our understanding of the GSI.

President Xi and President Putin have held multiple virtual and in-person exchanges since the war in Ukraine started a year ago. He will likely depart on a trip to Moscow next week, his first since the war started. But Xi has avoided talks with Zelenskyy despite repeated calls for dialogue by the Ukrainian president, until now. He is expected to speak to Zelenskyy virtually, according to a report by The Wall Street Journal. This may be an attempt by Beijing to negotiate an end to the current phase of hostilities in Ukraine.

China has presented itself as a country seeking to promote dialogue in the Russia-Ukraine war and portrayed the US as the weapons supplier.

Experts have said Beijing doesn’t want to be the ‘policeman of the world’.

“I think Sino-US competition is mostly confined to the Western Pacific, which is China’s doorstep. Apart from the South China Sea, there is no major competition between China and the United States on security issues, because China has no intention of becoming the world’s policeman,” said Zhou Bo, senior fellow of the Centre for International Security and Strategy at Tsinghua University.

Beijing is stepping into a new world of fractured geopolitics — part of which is its own creation — where it is willing to strike grand bargains with little moral qualms about the regime type. But China doesn’t want to be the ‘policeman of the world’ because assuming the title would come at a cost Beijing wants to avoid. The cost would include getting embroiled in counter-insurgency and local wars in a region like the Middle East.

Beijing will only bring peace where the interests of Zhongnanhai — headquarters for the Chinese Communist Party and the State Council of China — are best served. The so-called Chinese peace plan for the Russia-Ukraine war won’t be a grand bargain as we saw in the Saudi-Iran case.

After Saudi-Iran, China wants to displace America. But won’t be 'policeman of the world'

Xi’s upcoming meeting with Putin & chat with Zelenskyy part of vision to undercut US influence via the Global Security Initiative.

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Here are a few key attributes that need to be respected wrt to Foreign policy and in general Chines approach toward other nations.

1- China does not judge others and provides sermons...Asian nations are very sensitive to their dignity more than money...So whatever money or efforts the West invests in their Non-Western allies, they do not shy away from judging and lecturing us as and when they feel it is needed.
Even if US and Saudi are friends for the last couple of decades their relationship is quite transactional. Both are ready to ditch each other at the slightest disagreement,
And even we can see how US attitude towards India too. In spite of so much positive news about US-India relations, the US does not have any ambassadors to India for the last couple of years...

2- Chines people showed to the world that if any nation is sincere towards their development and their people are ready to do sincere effort, then it is easier to develop the nation.

3- Complete Non-Interference with other nations...This is the gem of their foreign policy which i admire....The classic example if Pakistan...The amount of influence and respect China has on Pakistan, they have a lot more leverage than the US.....But instead of doing bad work, they respected the people of Pakistan for their friendship with China and never indulged in their politics...

Kudos to China for their effort to bring peace in the middle east...

 

[Solidify]

This will be good for Mid East & GCC nations in one big lump peace all around the region without little bits of skirmishes.
We all know how sensitive the Iraq Iran conflict, Iraq Kuwait x2, Yeman Saudi Arabia war conflict. Now these nations will have toget along and use their brains collectivily for a change OTHERWISE THE BIG BEAR IS WATCHING YOU ALONG WITH RUSSIAN WOLD AND MIGHTY DRAGON OF CHINA AT ANY TIME.