After AFGHANISTAN what next???

[Haris Ali2140]

Yes

In Afghanistan ?

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Yes

maray ja rahain hain aur maaray jaingaa
That's their future Insha allah

 

[Haris Ali2140]

maray ja rahain hain aur maaray jaingaa
That's their future Insha allah

But after US withdrawl Pakistan and Taliban will be blamed for ISIS activity.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

But after US withdrawl Pakistan and Taliban will be blamed for ISIS activity.

we have been blamed for many many things sleep tight sir they will be eliminated

 

[jupiter2007]

With the Afghan Peace Deal signed, Pakistan must do the following things;

1. Restructure, reform and standardize Pakistan's education system
2. An organized, recorded and monitored repartiation of Afghans back to their home land.
3. A comprehensive border monitoring and management department established.
4. Work toward completion of CPEC.
5. Restructuring and strengthening state institutions.
6. Corruption free functioning of CPEC.
7. Establishing a web of Pakistani industries off-shoot from CPEC.
8. Construction of water irrigation and land reclamation for agriculture in Baluchistan.
9. Proposition for (when ready) Afghans, to become a part of CPEC.
10. Relentless hunt and prosecution of corruption in bureacracy, state institution
11. Total, unconditional abolishment of the feudal system throughout Pakistan.

Oh did I mention education system's reforms? Having education system of the highest standards, accessible to our children, without having to go bankrupt in the process? Education and Trees ... the weapons of choice to liberate Kashmir, to establish a robust CPEC, to have Afghanistan war-free!!!

Pakistanis get with the program!

Let me add few things...
1) We need Education reform and standardization: Same education standard should be applied throughout the country.

2) healthcare reforms and management: All health care worker and facilities, including doctors, clinics and pharmacies must be registered and monitored by state.

3) Sports reform and promotion: We need to promote baseball, hockey, Soccer, Kabbadi, mix-Martial Art, boxing, squash, etc in Pakistan.

4) Judicial reforms, we need more courts to handle the pending cases.

5) As far as Afghan refugees are concerned, I would request government to allow 2nd generations Afghanis to earn Pakistani citizenship after going through a process of integration. Most Afghanis are not anti-Pakistani and most are hard working people. They should be allowed to work and pay taxes to the state. It will be easy to track them once they are issued a residency card for 10 years. If they work, pay taxes and not involved in any criminal activity, they can apply for Pakistani citizenship after 5 years.

6) I agree with brother Hikmet, religious maddressa must be registered with state, Islamic and non Islamic organizations, places of worship (for all religions including Ahmedi), under the strict control of the state. There should be no hate speech against other Islamic sects (Bralvies have PhD in hate speeches since they claim everyone is Ghustaq) or other religions.

7) Decentralization of power: Local body system should be implemented and City Mayor/Nazim shoudl be given the required power and budget to fix and run the city.

8) Reform Police system: Each city should have it's own police, special unit, crime units, patrol units, surveillance units. Special Security unit (SWAT unit).

 

[hassan zohaib]

How would you give a shut up call?

Just put kashmir on hold for some decades, obviously they will soon learn to help themselves. Make Economic alliances like we do with Strategic alliances, let Civilians share a pie of power with power holders in real Sense. Look insight, promulgate an Economic n educational emergency.
I think these are some steps which can give a shut up call on policy front to India.

On military front, just hit your enemies where they don't think. Just hit india into its democratic structure. Fann the secessionist emotions into different parts of India.

Defend yourself emotionally, geographically, ideologically, internally externally only by Strong Economy...

 

[maximuswarrior]

Whatever happens we have to remember that this is still a very fragile peace agreement. The US deep state, US installed Afghan government and India are not content with this peace deal.

Trump is at odds with deep state hawks in his own government. Fatty Pompeo doesn't want to sign the peace agreement. We have old doggy Mattis barking all over the place. These are all signs that the US is very divided on the Afghan peace deal.

Pakistan needs to be cautious. Trump approached Pakistan and we were willing to help him as much as we could. This doesn't mean everyone is happy with the peace negotiations. In fact it has a lot of opposition. Trump has a different approach on Afghanistan. He doesn't want to invest in a failed project whereas his predecessors were hand and glove with the deep state. The US deep state runs the show in opiumland and not Trump.

The best approach for Pakistan in my opinion would be to continue to aid Trump and watch how things evolve. We have to remember that Trump will be gone. The US deep state will always remain. The US deep state could eventually spoil the deal and we would be back to square one.

Pakistan's relations with the US deep state and by extension the US won't improve/stabilize. We have too many disagreements and our interests simply collide on every level. From nuclear weapons to the Afghan war. From our relationship with China to India. The US doesn't agree on any single point with Pakistan. Our main ally is China and will always be China. That is a fact written in stone.

Afghanistan is a failed US project that has impacted Pakistan adversely for decades. We need to reverse this trend by acknowledging the ground realities. After the peace agreement we need to swiftly do the following:

1. Repatriate Afghan refugees back to Afghanistan.
2. Close the border with Afghanistan and minimize/monitor movement in and out of Pakistan.
3. Focus on CPEC completion.
4. Invest in education and other important areas for the betterment of people of Pakistan.
5. Minimize relations with spoiler nations that have built spying embassies on our soil and pretend to be our friends. Yes, also the ones that beg for their INGOs to spy freely.

 

[hassan zohaib]

Whatever happens we have to remember that this is still a very fragile peace agreement. The US deep state, US installed Afghan government and India are not content with this peace deal.

Trump is at odds with deep state hawks in his own government. That fatty Pompeo doesn't want to sign the peace agreement. We have old doggy Mattis barking all over the place. These are all signs that the US is very divided on the Afghan peace deal.

Pakistan needs to be cautious. Trump approached Pakistan and we were willing to help him as much as we could. This doesn't mean everyone is happy with the peace negotiations. In fact it has a lot of opposition. Trump has a different approach on Afghanistan. He doesn't want to invest in a failed project whereas his predecessord were hand and glove with the deep state.

Actually, u r right. The time period once after this deal entered into and the time period for its implementation has a huge time in between to shatter this deal. Anyone can stage such a drama which can force US to remain here intact with atrocities n violence but right now the trajectory Taliban are going on is something which has conveyed that any violence by Taliban is acceptable to US n it just want to extricate herself out from this hell.

Imo, guarantors are there so chance of scrapping this deal if entered into is very bleak but we have to see the nature of agreement, If it serves Pak or not, to China or not, to Russia or not, to US or not, after this we can think of the delicacies of post-peace- agreement era..

 

[fitpOsitive]

AFGHANISTAN peace agreement is to b signed soon but what next after this deal??? Lines must b drawn. New strategies must b in pipeline. So "A quagmire of the world'" must not b last one. Windows of opportunities n new threats are to b appeared for all players. How will all re-appear?? Where will b new conflict??? How US will play?? How China Russia will stand??? How Pakistan will position itself??? How Taliban will react??? Is Hong Kong going to be a new conflict zone or south China sea or Pacific??? How will world Economy reply??? Lots of questions but no article in any publication on this. Let me put such uncertain questions before you???

Keeping in mind that AFGHANISTAN isn't gonna cool off soon. It will enter in new phase but the Global reverberation will not b felt for this.

Guys, you can have opinions & if u put here then definitely it will b beneficial fo all.
Thanks...

In Taliban govt, they never tried to threat or attack India. I mean, I don't understand why India feels so insecure while it comes to Taliban. Taliban were there for 6 years, and they never threatened India.
So if Taliban takes over Afghanistan, it should be an OK news for India, if not super.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Actually, u r right. The time period once after this deal entered into and the time period for its implementation has a huge time in between to shatter this deal. Anyone can stage such a drama which can force US to remain here intact with atrocities n violence but right now the trajectory Taliban are going on is something which has conveyed that any violence by Taliban is acceptable to US n it just want to extricate herself out from this hell.

Imo, guarantors are there so chance of scrapping this deal if entered into is very bleak but we have to see the nature of agreement, If it serves Pak or not, to China or not, to Russia or not, to US or not, after this we can think of the delicacies of post-peace- agreement era..

Ironclad guarantees don't exist. Especially when you are dealing with the US deep state. The deal is going to be broken eventually. This is nothing more than a one man peace agreement. Trump is hellbent on getting out of opiumland. The US deep state wants to remain for obvious reasons. The longest breath wins and the US deep state has the longest breathe as compared to Trump.

We need to make most of the opportunity that has presented itself. We need to repatriate Afghans which is a very difficult issue politicized by various spoilers. We need to focus on Pakistan instead of being sucked into Afghan mess.

 

[hassan zohaib]

Ironclad guarantees don't exist. Especially when you are dealing with the US deep state. The deal is going to be broken eventually. This is nothing more than a one man peace agreement. Trump is hellbent on getting out of opiumland. The US deep state wants to remain for obvious reasons. The longest breath wins and the US deep state has the longest breathe as compared to Trump.

We need to make most of the opportunity that has presented itself. We need to repatriate Afghans which is a very difficult issue politicized by various spoilers. We need to focus on Pakistan instead of being sucked into Afghan mess.

Unfortunately, I don't think on these lines bcz the difficulty ensued in reaching this agreement will also require more or at least same level of Difficulty in breaking this deal. Talibans are inching day by day towards Kabul but no reactions from Deep state or Trump. They just trying to get the deal into effect.

2nd, don't u think once This deal comes into effect, Taliban will have greater say in Afghanistan affairs??? And if that happens, it will not b suitable for pak to expatriate Afghanis at the same pace they r doing now...

 

[Bouncer]

One thing is for sure, if we mess it up a second time like we did after the Soviets, it will be our generations who'll pay the price. Let's hope and pray for safety and prosperity of Pakistanis and Afghans on both sides of the border. We cannot afford to loose another generation to global politics, religious bigotry and bloodshed.

I really hope that IK and GHQ are keeping the safety and security of Afghan people as the prime objective, not just a lip service item at FO briefings. This is the only way we get to ensure our own safety. Pakistan and Afghanistan are conjoined twins, you hurt one and the other feels the pain. This region has hundreds of years of history to prove that it is simply impossible for one region to prosper while the other burns.

 

[Rupeshkumar]

In Taliban govt, they never tried to threat or attack India. I mean, I don't understand why India feels so insecure while it comes to Taliban. Taliban were there for 6 years, and they never threatened India.
So if Taliban takes over Afghanistan, it should be an OK news for India, if not super.

you never know how the mad bull behave next. You cant forget the kandhar plane hijack and the support given by taliban to the hijackers.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

None on PDF is part of any policy making.

Yes, that is what is kind of funny to me. I notice the people talk on here like we're in charge of such things.

On the other hand, if masses of common people demand things, insha'Allah it can influence the rulers. I hope popular outcry leads to something being done about the conditions in Karachi. It's horrible to hear about people having to put up with conditions like that.

 

[fitpOsitive]

you never know how the mad bull behave next. You cant forget the kandhar plane hijack and the support given by taliban to the hijackers.

I don't think that was the only plane ever hijacked.
You know what dented the Indian interests the most? Blind following of western interests. And BTW, have you ever thought the support you provided to anti Taliban forces?
So you see the equations? India must not fear Talibs, they are local forces, and if India doesn't follow the western foot steps, then there is nothing to fear of.