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Afghanistan bullish on military ties with India

about purchase from India,India is probably not going to sell Afghanistan anything(openly).but we're going to pay to give their required hardwares,but as we couldn't support Afghanistan on a long run,India is trying to pursuade some other countries so that ANA could get fund of some $4 Billion yearly.ISAF is going to fund ANA according to their way,its additional funds.

Afghanistan takes long view with India, Russia, China - The Hindu
 
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Reuters had earlier quoted Indian officials as saying that New Delhi had held talks with China, Japan and Iran to find ways to fund Afghan security demands, with a price tag of around $4 billion a year.

Seeking a special relationship with China, the Afghans want Beijing to invest heavily in their country, hoping that the Chinese will drive sufficient economic and commercial stakes in Afghanistan, persuading them to play a stabilising role in the country.

Analysts point out that the focus of Afghanistan on India, Russia and China to fortify its strategic interests comes at a time of a sharp deterioration of ties between Washington and Moscow, and Russia’s growing relationship with China, anchored by a recent $400-billion gas deal.


Afghanistan bullish on military ties with India - The Hindu


For me the most important part of the news item is this one.

if anyone can put some light how will it work and what will be position of US in all this if happened ?
 
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The new government has no such qualms, coupled with the failed assassination attempt on Abdullah Abdullah, the adversary has revealed its intentions much too soon in a botched up attempt. The Afghans clearly know the path ahead and who the new leader of Afghanistan knows all too well and now more certainly that who is his enemy.
Spot on! I smell a conspiracy here. Abdullah Addullah is a friend of India and vested interests want him out of the way. As President, he is most likely to become a thorn in Pakistan's flesh, whose great game plan is to install a pliable puppet regime in Afghanistan with the help of the Taliban (Haqqani/Omar) so that their doctrine of 'Strategic Depth' is taken care of. This is what Pakistan has been fighting for since 2001 and they'll go to any extent to ensure they achieve their objective.
 
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we want old govt that was friendly to Pakistan not some former CIA and RAW operatives running that country i hope you got my ans
Afghanistan is an independent sovereign country. The Afghans alone will decide their future, not Pakistan. Period!

how are India's relations with Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. ???
On the upswing! :enjoy:
 
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remember 1990s if we want to we can arm Afghani resistance fighter with Tanks and Stingers and with artillery and their are plenty of muslim states who will help us so i think afghan govt is afraid and is crying for help because they know what happened to najabeullah after russian withdrawal any ways best of luck u play ur cards we will play our and for those who Call taliban of afghanistan as terrorist for them kiddo they were the ruler of afghanistan prior to 9/11

During 1991 we dont have any cards for playing .You also know that.Then you had friends from West including US.We were totally isolated in this world during that time plus economic crisis of 1991.
But friend , widen your eyes and look at the present world .India is in a different league now.Your talking about Arab countries support is just useless.Because Iran a powerful country in the middle east is also supporting us for the stability and prosperity of Afghanistan .We are in contact with West ,China ,Russia and others for the funding of Afghan military.This time if you try to imtimidate them you will experience another good diplomatic pressure.

we want old govt that was friendly to Pakistan not some former CIA and RAW operatives running that country i hope you got my ans

Not going to happen.Afghanistan is not your client state.It is a sovereign nation.So dont meddle in their internal affairs.

For me the most important part of the news item is this one.

if anyone can put some light how will it work and what will be position of US in all this if happened ?

US will also support this initiative because they know what happened in 9/11 due to their mismanagement in Afghanistan.And India is the front runner,so they dont have much complains about this.
 
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US will also support this initiative because they know what happened in 9/11 due to their mismanagement in Afghanistan.And India is the front runner,so they dont have much complains about this.

thats an emotional answer.

I want something which is logical and can describe the scenario practically since China, Russia, Iran are mentioned
 
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thats an emotional answer.

I want something which is logical and can describe the scenario practically since China, Russia, Iran are mentioned

And you are talking about US here.US is failed in Afghanistan.They destroyed almost 1 trillion for a single man .Now stable Afghanistan become our responsiblity US -India relation is not that bad .They can take India confirmation.All these countries dont send their military in to Afghanistan, India is making diplomatic action for ANA funding ,thats all.US dont need to fear that.
 
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thats an emotional answer.
I want something which is logical and can describe the scenario practically since China, Russia, Iran are mentioned
And you are supposed to be the final word on afghan related affairs?
Please engage in meaningful dialogue instead of adding random words of no value.
I suggest you read upon upon the evolving context of the matter.
Pakistan is a terrorist spawning state that only adds to the woes of the afghans and is disliked by most afghans for its over indulgence in its affairs. The next best option is India.
 
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We should help Afghanistan getting militarily stronger so that it can't get bullied by its neighbor.
 
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1: Something how you feel about Bangladesh, we hosted several million Afghan refugees for decades, in return we have soaring rate of crime and the menace of Heroin.
2 : Surely you are not oblivious of regular attacks on our border posts carried out by miscreants harboured by the likes of ANA, if Afghanistan wasn't our neighbour, do you think Pakistan would be facing all the troubles that happen now , as for hating all neighbours, how are India's relations with Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. ???
We have great relations with Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Bhutan and Nepal.
Heck we have great relations with China as well barring occasional incidents - even still our border with China has been peaceful for decades! Nary a bullet fired in decades there!

The only one we really have a problem with is Pakistan.

On the other hand Pakistan has active issues with India, Afghanistan and Iran. 3 out of 4 neighbours.

We should help Afghanistan getting militarily stronger so that it can't get bullied by its neighbor.
Yes we should.
Eventually our long term goal should be to help Afg become strong enough such that next time when Pakistan tries to violate the sovereignty of Aghanistan, ANA is able to shoot and kill as many Pakistani's as the number of Afghans killed by Pakistani's.
 
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Yes we should.
Eventually our long term goal should be to help Afg become strong enough such that next time when Pakistan tries to violate the sovereignty of Aghanistan, ANA is able to shoot and kill as many Pakistani's as the number of Afghans killed by Pakistani's.

ANA has come a long way in the last 4-5 years. In another 5-10 years they would be a force to reckon with and would keep its neighboring bully in check.
 
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Without going into the bullshit of 8 lakh army figure Kashmir is not a sovereign nation. Logic fail!
Let the Pakistani's keep coming up with their 'facts'. You know they come up with the best ones!
Musharraf saying Pakistan is ahead of India is space technology
Zia making Rajiv piss his pants by threatening 'Hindu extinction'
Israel being scared and shitting its collective pants because of Islamic power Pakistan.

All these are designed to make them feel good and cover the 'fact' that after 65 years they have yet to be able to take Kashmir.
Psych 101

ANA has come a long way in the last 4-5 years. In another 5-10 years they would be a force to reckon with and would keep its neighboring bully in check.
Their training and funding would become harder with US leaving. And they would need atleast 1 more decade of training and funding to be a force that can challenge PA.
 
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Their training and funding would become harder with US leaving. And they would need atleast 1 more decade of training and funding to be a force that can challenge PA.

US would not abandon them. The new govt in Afghanistan would sign the bilateral security agreement (in fact Mr Abdullah Abdullah has openly come out and said so) and they would continue to receive training and funding.
 
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Faced with the prospects of a military vacuum as Western forces will soon withdraw from its territory, Afghanistan is hopeful that India, under the Modi government, will emerge as a major player in filling the security gap in the strife-torn nation.

“Even before Prime Minister Narendra Modi had taken the oath of office, Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai had held two telephonic conversations with him, setting the tone for energising an already formidable relationship,” a diplomatic source said. The appointment of Ajit Doval as National Security Adviser also undergirds Afghan hopes. “We are aware of Mr. Doval’s security instincts when it comes to Afghanistan, and these augur well for a robust military relationship,” the source said.

From Afghanistan’s perspective, a prominent military dimension will raise the profile of the relationship between the two SAARC countries to the next level. With the Americans expected to leave behind only 10,000 troops by 2014-end, the Afghans are looking to bolster their armed forces with big-ticket military hardware from India, including Russian-origin fighter jets and tanks that New Delhi eventually wants to discard. These include MiG-21 fighters and T-72 tanks, apart from Bofors howitzers and equipment vital for command and control. But wary of upsetting Pakistan, the UPA-II government had told the Afghans that India would not be in a position to fly this equipment over Pakistani airspace in case it required repair in Indian military establishments, sources said.

Consequently, the Afghans approached the problem in a larger geopolitical perspective, involving a deeper and simultaneous engagement with India, Russia and China. Russia was approached to supply India-funded military hardware to Afghanistan, resulting in the establishment of a complex triangular partnership.

Reuters had earlier quoted Indian officials as saying that New Delhi had held talks with China, Japan and Iran to find ways to fund Afghan security demands, with a price tag of around $4 billion a year.

Seeking a special relationship with China, the Afghans want Beijing to invest heavily in their country, hoping that the Chinese will drive sufficient economic and commercial stakes in Afghanistan, persuading them to play a stabilising role in the country.

Analysts point out that the focus of Afghanistan on India, Russia and China to fortify its strategic interests comes at a time of a sharp deterioration of ties between Washington and Moscow, and Russia’s growing relationship with China, anchored by a recent $400-billion gas deal.

Afghanistan bullish on military ties with India - The Hindu

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Just a few days back my dad had received a few Afghan delegates back in India,my father did tell me that they were positive that India could bring in the much needed peace in Afghanistan and also that they were expecting large scale investments from India.
India has to take up the role of big bro in the region, if India has to flex its pecs then this is the right time.
 
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