Afghanistan begins to export products directly to India for the first time

[S.A.]

Afghanistan begins to export products directly to India for the first time in its history

My only question is how directly?

Currently they are using Pakistani port, now they will use Iranian, so how is this directly???

We gain plausible reason to be manning our military vessels just 72 km ahead of gwadar, beyond our own territorial waters ,while staying in the diplomatic ambit of Iran . And as our trade with Iran and Afg increases so will our diplomatic relations ..

I am doubtful that India can/will use this port for military purpose... Correct me if I am wrong...

Afghanistani dry fruits are very famous in India...cheers to this good news . Bypassing middlemen is always nice, be it in domestic issues or internationally

Which middle man they are bypassing.... they are only trying to change the middleman...

 

[t_for_talli]

Organic fruits, dry fruits, saffron, rugs, mines and minerals for the time being.
But India can export many products to Afghanistan lets hope this bilateral trade hits $1bln within a year!
Yes and we can secretly have secret deals

Afgani dry fruits are very famous in India
I remember in CBSE primary school curriculum there was a story called "Kabuliwali" about a Afgani dry fruits trader

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

Nice ... Slowly, but steadily...

Slow and steady wins the race....

But the point is are we steady enough?????
Can we do something to protect ANA and current afghan system from getting demolished.????
Can we get benefits of bring benefactor to Afghan govt in next 4-5 year???

 

[That Guy]

@Pulsar, as karan said we are slow and steady the railway line is next + Iran has given major trade opportunities to Afghan businessmen to lure them from importing via Karachi and very soon the Aqina port will be functional like never before and will give us greater access directly to Europe + the port will be connected with railway line soon:

Aqina port - Ministry of Commerce and Industries

Construction of Mazar-e-Sharif-Aqina Railway Project Inaugurated

Construction of Afghan-Turkmenistan Railway to Begin

Aqina port revenue up by 57%- Afghan officials | Wadsam

First off, using known unreliable sources is a bad idea, yes, I include anyone from the Afghan gov too, because they have no idea what's going on half the time.

Second, you're making a lot of assumptions. This will happen assuming the Afghan gov and ANA can actually survive a post-NATO withdrawal long enough to have lasting affects on the Afghan economy, and I can tell you that it'll take at least another 10 years for that to happen, without any interruptions and continued foreign funding.

Third, you're also assuming that the US will tolerate Afghanistan cozying up to Iran, even if the Indian are watching over the whole proces. The US and India still aren't at the level of trust yet to actually rely on each other, and considering that India is not foolish, this level of trust will not happen for the foreseeable future, simply because India has looked at the US's attitude towards it's supposed allies and doesn't trust the US.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

m kind of soooo happy within.. smiling secretly.

Why secretly? You can smile openly..........
But let us not forget Iran at this moment. Iran helped to make this happen. Iran facilitated this and Iran can really help in the role of stabilising and re-building Afghanistan.
The people who under-estimate Iran's importance in the region will only do so at their own peril. Even the USA needs to wake up to this reality. Though I know that they already are beginning to; India has woken up Uncle Sam to that fact.

@Sher Malang; Congratulations to you and your fellow citizens. Hope that this spells the beginning of better times for Afghanistan.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Afgani dry fruits are very famous in India
I remember in CBSE primary school curriculum there was a story called "Kabuliwali" about a Afgani dry fruits trader

"Kabuliwalla" was a very famous story written by Tagore. Go looking for the old movie (in B&W) that was made on this story. It starred Balraj Sahani as the Kabuliwalla. It is an accurate portrayal of some the qualities of people in Afghanistan: simple and resolute, unswerving, honest and loyal. A very touching story; with great music by S.D.Burman based loosely on Afgan music and instruments such as the Rabab. The song by Manna Dey: 'Aye mere pyaare watan' where the Kabuliwalla remembers his beloved country and his family in Afghanistan is a classic. The story and the film (in my opinion) is quite symbolic of the injustice that has been done to Afghanistan over the years.

 

[karan.1970]

Currently they are using Pakistani port, now they will use Iranian, so how is this directly???



Which middle man they are bypassing.... they are only trying to change the middleman...

Given the heavy involvement of India in Chabbar and in Afghanistan's infrastructure linking to Chabbar, the dealings would virtually be with India directly...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I am doubtful that India can/will use this port for military purpose... Correct me if I am wrong...

Which middle man they are bypassing.... they are only trying to change the middleman...

This port has no military purposes whatsoever!
Firstly, India does not need that port militarily.
Secondly, Iran is very conscious of its sovereignty. Iran will not allow anybody to set up base there; they have too much Self-Respect to permit that.

Now about Middlemen; maybe Afghanistan has found a more honest and sincere Middleman now?
Iran has harmed Afghanistan less than any other middleman.

 

[S.A.]

Given the heavy involvement of India in Chabbar and in Afghanistan's infrastructure linking to Chabbar, the dealings would virtually be with India directly...

Afghanistan was/is already directly dealing with India, irrespective of Pakistani or Irani port.... so whats new in this so called Directly for the first time.... It was implied from the thread heading that Afghanistan has a port of its own now....

This port has no military purposes whatsoever!
Firstly, India does not need that port militarily.
Secondly, Iran is very conscious of its sovereignty. Iran will not allow anybody to set up base there; they have too much Self-Respect to permit that.

That what I was referring to.... your own country man mentioned this and I only gave my view on that....

Now about Middlemen; maybe Afghanistan has found a more honest and sincere Middleman now?
Iran has harmed Afghanistan less than any other middleman.

May be.... May be not.... but still there is a middle man and Afghans have to rely on them...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

May be.... May be not.... but still there is a middle man and Afghans have to rely on them...

That is inevitable. As a land-locked country; Afghanistan will always have to depend on somebody to extend transit facilities, 'middlemen' as you choose to call them.
Now Afghanistan knows that it has more options. Is that not more reassuring for Afghanistan? Apart from that; Russia will also work to extend another transit route through the CARs. Another option then, though that is not the cheapest way. But it is definitely another way.
Now who will complain about that?

 

[karan.1970]

Afghanistan was/is already directly dealing with India, irrespective of Pakistani or Irani port.... so whats new in this so called Directly for the first time.... It was implied from the thread heading that Afghanistan has a port of its own now....

May be.... May be not.... but still there is a middle man and Afghans have to rely on them...

Well this time the reliability of the middle man is that much higher. So is its relationship with the customer (india). Plus Iran does not look at Afg for strategic depth..

 

[Skull and Bones]

Yes and we can secretly have secret deals

No! How can you have deals with India secretly, man? In India, we announce them on national television before deeming them secret.

 

[Splurgenxs]

I am doubtful that India can/will use this port for military purpose... Correct me if I am wrong...

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/afghan...irectly-india-first-time-3.html#ixzz2aKdIqjK3

THe port will not be used for military purpose , what im point at is the "option" to maneuver further from our coasts in a certain "securing our interest pretext" under the diplomatic ambit or Iranian regime. Its not an aggressive move but it forces the aggressor to maneuver cautiously so as to not offend more than one parties at once.

Iran and Indian interests will be intertwined after this and so will the security of our shipping lanes. The end result is increased stability and nothing else.

 

[S.A.]

That is inevitable. As a land-locked country; Afghanistan will always have to depend on somebody to extend transit facilities, 'middlemen' as you choose to call them.

First of all, I never use the word "Middle man", it was reply to someone.... Refer to my first post....

Well this time the reliability of the middle man is that much higher. So is its relationship with the customer (india). Plus Iran does not look at Afg for strategic depth..

So you are agreeing that heading is wrong..... Afghanistan can never export or import directly (except from its neighbors) being a land locked country. There will always be a middle man for Afghanistan... This is another matter who is more reliable and who is not.....

 

[acid rain]

a55 Burn time. @Sher Malang, Any updates on the railroad? has work started yet?