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All Afghan soldiers working in a patrol base in southern Afghanistan have been disarmed and confined to barracks after one of them turned his weapons on Australian troops, seriously injuring three of them.

The incident, in Uruzgan province, is the latest attack on western troops by members of Afghanistan's fledgling security forces, who are being recruited and trained at breakneck speed to take over from western combat troops by the end of 2014.

Officials say the Afghanistan National Army (ANA) soldier was standing on a raised watchtower in a patrol base when he opened fire with an automatic weapon and grenade launcher, shooting down into the interior of the compound. As in other such incidents, his victims would have been unprepared to defend themselves, and probably not wearing body armour.

In addition to seriously wounding three members of an Australian team responsible for training and mentoring Afghans soldiers, two ANA servicemen were also hurt, although their injuries were minor, the Australian defence ministry said.

The attacker, named by the Afghan government as Mohammad Rozi from the northern province of Takhar, then fled the scene in an army vehicle. Although pursued by Afghan troops, he managed to escape after abandoning and setting fire to the vehicle.

The five injured men were transferred by helicopter air ambulance to military hospitals in the region, with the Australians moved to the Nato trauma facility in Kandahar.

David Hurley, chief of the Australian Defence Force, said Rozi's motive was unknown. But he acknowledged the acute unease the incident is likely to create in Australia, a Nato ally still reeling from the death of three of its soldiers in a similar incident less than two weeks ago.

"I understand the reaction many Australians will have to news of this latest incident so soon after the deaths of three soldiers in similar circumstances. However, it is too early to speculate whether these two incidents are linked," Hurley said.

The infiltration of the security forces by insurgent sympathisers is a major concern for western officials, although they maintain the number of such incidents involving genuine Taliban infiltrators remains low.

Last month Julia Gillard, the Australian prime minister, said such attacks were intended to erode trust between Afghan and foreign forces.

Australia has 1,550 soldiers in Afghanistan, and has suffered 32 deaths and 212 injuries during operations in the country.
 
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It seems sad after the presence of the external forces one would have thought they would have at least checked and vetted who they were arming. They don't seem to have moved forward 1 inch. I worry for the nation of Afghanistan after 2014
 
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This sort of thing is becoming very common, and if I were to guess, this style of attack has been planned since maybe 2004, possibly earlier.

If you are the Taliban, and you've been ejected from power in 2001 and 2002, what would be a good way to create terror and instability? Take a large number of your ex-soldiers, and tell them "Return to your farm. Become a civilian again. When the Afghan government looks for recruits, join up. Lay low. Play their game. When you are trusted, turn your weapon on the infidel and become a martyr."

No amount of vetting can find all these sleeper Taliban.
 
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Afghan soldiers disarmed after attack on Australian allies

The article is incorrect.They were disarmed even before this incident happened.

That is the height of confidence NATO has on Afghan Army.A thing which these ignorant never tries to understand.
 
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This sort of thing is becoming very common, and if I were to guess, this style of attack has been planned since maybe 2004, possibly earlier.

If you are the Taliban, and you've been ejected from power in 2001 and 2002, what would be a good way to create terror and instability? Take a large number of your ex-soldiers, and tell them "Return to your farm. Become a civilian again. When the Afghan government looks for recruits, join up. Lay low. Play their game. When you are trusted, turn your weapon on the infidel and become a martyr."

No amount of vetting can find all these sleeper Tal

What would be the solution? Is there a solution? I find it difficult to take - all the lost lives and we are in this stage where its worse than ever. I don't wish to point fingers - i think it clearly is a sense of frustration with one step forward and 2 back.
 
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I talked with my daughter about this sort of event... she was in Afghanistan last year. She said basically "We absolutely did not trust the ANA. It's a shame but just a few bad soldiers among them created an environment where we simply did not trust them. When the U.S. Army wanted to hand over the security of our COP (Combat Outpost) to the local ANA soldiers, we went ballistic and refused. We continued to maintain separateness, and we mounted our own security."

There is no answer. I think when the USA and the Western allies leave, Afghanistan will fall into horrible anarchy and civil war, which could easily spill over into Pakistan. I think the real danger to Pakistan isn't India, it is Afghan and Pakistani (home grown) Taliban-style extremists.

The punitive aspect of the initial Afghanistan attack in 2001 was entirely justified, I think. But after the training camps were obliterated and we took a toll on Al Quaeda and Taliban leadership, we should have been out of there by 2003. The mission of any military is destruction, not reconstruction, policing, or economic assistance. No regime change.
 
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I talked with my daughter about this sort of event... she was in Afghanistan last year. She said basically "We absolutely did not trust the ANA. It's a shame but just a few bad soldiers among them created an environment where we simply did not trust them. When the U.S. Army wanted to hand over the security of our COP (Combat Outpost) to the local ANA soldiers, we went ballistic and refused. We continued to maintain separateness, and we mounted our own security."

There is no answer. I think when the USA and the Western allies leave, Afghanistan will fall into horrible anarchy and civil war, which could easily spill over into Pakistan. I think the real danger to Pakistan isn't India, it is Afghan and Pakistani (home grown) Taliban-style extremists.

The punitive aspect of the initial Afghanistan attack in 2001 was entirely justified, I think. But after the training camps were obliterated and we took a toll on Al Quaeda and Taliban leadership, we should have been out of there by 2003. The mission of any military is destruction, not reconstruction, policing, or economic assistance. No regime change.

Thanks - i pray she isnt asked to go back as i wouldnt want any of my family members out their. Thanks Chogy
 
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We need to fence and mine the border, sorry for the ordinary Afghans who will suffer, but enough is enough.

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I talked with my daughter about this sort of event... she was in Afghanistan last year. She said basically "We absolutely did not trust the ANA. It's a shame but just a few bad soldiers among them created an environment where we simply did not trust them. When the U.S. Army wanted to hand over the security of our COP (Combat Outpost) to the local ANA soldiers, we went ballistic and refused. We continued to maintain separateness, and we mounted our own security."

There is no answer. I think when the USA and the Western allies leave, Afghanistan will fall into horrible anarchy and civil war, which could easily spill over into Pakistan. I think the real danger to Pakistan isn't India, it is Afghan and Pakistani (home grown) Taliban-style extremists.

The punitive aspect of the initial Afghanistan attack in 2001 was entirely justified, I think. But after the training camps were obliterated and we took a toll on Al Quaeda and Taliban leadership, we should have been out of there by 2003. The mission of any military is destruction, not reconstruction, policing, or economic assistance. No regime change.

Respect to your daughter, hopefully she will not be asked to go out there again.
 
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seems like the US has some serious work to do regarding these afghan soldiers. you would thought that after all these years they would at least have the afghans on their side

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This sort of thing is becoming very common, and if I were to guess, this style of attack has been planned since maybe 2004, possibly earlier.

If you are the Taliban, and you've been ejected from power in 2001 and 2002, what would be a good way to create terror and instability? Take a large number of your ex-soldiers, and tell them "Return to your farm. Become a civilian again. When the Afghan government looks for recruits, join up. Lay low. Play their game. When you are trusted, turn your weapon on the infidel and become a martyr."

No amount of vetting can find all these sleeper Taliban.
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now they will fight each other ..... it will give advantage to Talibans
 
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The attacker, named by the Afghan government as Mohammad Rozi from the northern province of Takhar,

the report says he is from northern province why u make taliban connection why not something else?

TARIQ
 
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correcting to
invader*

There I am afraid you are not completely accurate, and neither was I. These sleeper soldiers also happily turn their rifles on Afghan soldiers, fellow countrymen and Muslims. Whether their external motivation is religion or nationalism, in the end, the real motivator for those who pull the strings is power.

The Taliban had a vision for Afghanistan (and possibly Pakistan) that is incompatible with many if not most normal Afghani citizens, who have no love for their extremism .
 
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I talked with my daughter about this sort of event... she was in Afghanistan last year. She said basically "We absolutely did not trust the ANA. It's a shame but just a few bad soldiers among them created an environment where we simply did not trust them. When the U.S. Army wanted to hand over the security of our COP (Combat Outpost) to the local ANA soldiers, we went ballistic and refused. We continued to maintain separateness, and we mounted our own security."

There is no answer. I think when the USA and the Western allies leave, Afghanistan will fall into horrible anarchy and civil war, which could easily spill over into Pakistan. I think the real danger to Pakistan isn't India, it is Afghan and Pakistani (home grown) Taliban-style extremists.

The punitive aspect of the initial Afghanistan attack in 2001 was entirely justified, I think. But after the training camps were obliterated and we took a toll on Al Quaeda and Taliban leadership, we should have been out of there by 2003. The mission of any military is destruction, not reconstruction, policing, or economic assistance. No regime change.

i have seen many professional Afghan soldiers... why not train and educate them? and let them do the work the regular army can't!

isn't it a system in the Afghan army where they check the background or atleast try to find something on them before taking them into the army?
 
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isn't it a system in the Afghan army where they check the background or atleast try to find something on them before taking them into the army?

Salam silko bro, checking background in Afghanistan is an impossible task. There is no database, no information and nothing. I can go there and enrol in the army and they will accept me. the country is in stone age, thanks to the wars in Afghanistan.
 
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