Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has issued a decree banning Pakistani trucks from entering the country

[Safriz]

It is painful for Afg. for a moment. But yes slowly but steadly trade will shift towards chabahar.
Yes, there are a lot of things that India can give to Afg. that pakistan cannot. Also India can supply everything that Paksitan does to Afg. and central Asia at more competitive rates than what Paksitan can.

So you saying that India can give wheat cheaper to Afghanistan than Pakistan?

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Great, there is no harm in dreaming I have been hearing of Chabahar port for a decade or more. anyway as for this ban when it benefits india it remains to be seen.

ahhh probably only someone got access to means of information in last decade or so. I can understand it - no problem. For your information, Chabar was opened in 1983. But we can promise, it will haunt you for decades to come.

 

[Path-Finder]

ahhh probably only someone got access to means of information in last decade or so. I can understand it - no problem. For your information, Chabar was opened in 1983. But we can promise, it will haunt you for decades to come.

That is frightening I am shaking. But still it doesn't give you indians a upper hand!

 

[BABA AGHORI]

So you saying that India can give wheat cheaper to Afghanistan than Pakistan?

Yes, try out..Indian wheat is 696 INR /1127 PKR For 40 kgs where as Paksitani wheat is at 802 INR/1300 PKR

That is frightening I am shaking. But still it doesn't give you indians a upper hand!

Thanks we don't need an upper hand atall - Just enough to have a grip and we will pull the carpet under your feet.
You cannot beat evil baniya in his own game that is BUSINESS.

 

[KAI KAI Baloch]

There are no new sanctions on Iran right now. These are only talks. Even European Union is not in favor of putting new sanctions on Iran at the moment.
India did trade with Iran during sanctions and will find a way for the route. US too wants an alternative to contain the blackmailing that Pakistan wants to do with the backing of China in near future.

Firstly you think US will take iran as a alternate route to Afghanistan (wishful thinking).... and you think that Iran will allow that (wishful thinking)... and you think israel will be ok with that????? and you said Even European Union is not in favor of putting new sanctions on Iran at the moment " so hence even sanctions prevail from EU side"
Regarding sanctions: US president, has he certified Iran or not??? just a simple question........
Yes India has been doing business with iran .... but do an anlysis on how oil imports from iran reduced due to US pressure..... and since when have india been trying to make chabahar and still is stuck??????
Do you really think with the current form of sanctions on iran... CAR countries will take the risk of doing business with iran????? buddy its only you who is counting the chicks before hatching!!!

Now coming to blackmailing by Pakistan!! when you dont know about international politics its better to remain silent...... you and all indians degrade CPEC but lets see the reality.... there are actually 3 choke points in the world right now, Panama canal, suez canal and malacca strait..... US controls all three..... panama is not a of importance to china right now......OBOR basically bypasses these chokepoints (Suez & malacca).... CPEC is a huge part of it, be that oil or trade with ME or africa..... now if you haven't realized china invested a lot in africa in the past 20 years.... US only woke up in 2004 when they say the magnitude of investments and as a counterweight raised AFRICOM..... Now trade with ME and Africa will come through CPEC.....
Even Iran says chabahar is not a rival to Gwader!!!

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes, try out..Indian wheat is 696 INR /1127 PKR For 40 kgs where as Paksitani wheat is at 802 INR/1300 PKR




Thanks we don't need an upper hand atall - Just enough to have a grip and we will pull the carpet under your feet.
You cannot beat evil baniya in his own game that is BUSINESS.

But you haven't beaten anyone just pulled a victory out of thin air. But whatever floats your boat

 

[KAI KAI Baloch]

It is painful for Afg. for a moment. But yes slowly but steadly trade will shift towards chabahar.
Yes, there are a lot of things that India can give to Afg. that pakistan cannot. Also India can supply everything that Paksitan does to Afg. and central Asia at more competitive rates than what Paksitan can.

LOLZ...... and you think that with the added transport cost indian goods will be cheap in afghanistan!!!! By the way we are happy as the border is being sealed, as trade with afghanistan was causing more damage.... now all things will be regulated properly,,,,, atleast smuggling will end which will damage the afghan economy more.......

 

[313ghazi]

just shut down the border altogether, no trade with Afghanistan.

 

[The Eagle]

Sorry to say mod, but I m not agree here.

Sure after all, we can agree to disagree.

1. What china will do related to Taliban or in Afghanistan? He is not true sakeholder. Compare to China, India will play major role because we don't want Afghanistan again goes to terrorists hand. It will directly impact to south region. Other hand, china just shared 76 km border with Afghanistan. They can easily manage. US or Russia, who will be there in Afghanistan, they will Include India as well if talk about south Asia.

Firstly, India can insist US but the real picture is, except the will and would be, India is not included as such as having no influence or to share in this matter hence, excluded realistically. It is realized that India cannot play any major role but on other hand as you mentioned about Russia in Afghanistan, again, India is wrong in this perception that US will never allow as such hence, all the tussle in region. I don't know how explain further but I hope you may read beyond nationalism in this regard w.r.t. geopolitics. These are hopes what you defined as compare to the real picture. US let India to have an access but events unfolded then after actually alerted D.C that India used Afghanistan only to harm Pakistan and trust me, Intel do hold much information than any media baseless reporting. Furthering the situation, Pakistan stopped helping anyone outside but was kept busy for the cleaning inside due to interference of the rival and we succeeded though on other hand, US did realize the damage in Afghanistan that needed Pakistan for the same to contain the situation to which India failed. Lines are drawn and writing is on the wall that India did use an opportunity being short sighted against Pakistan but done more loss to NATO/US and Afghanistan that in my opinion, such times were good for us in the end that today situation is in our favour and US-Pakistan are back online but per same level and frequency.

Pakistan did draw the picture based upon reality and what should be done necessarily for stability of Afghanistan and if India has anything to offer, would have been on board since long ago but No. China has a lot to say in this regard that you will understand in last lines of this post otherwise, US is totally in disagreement whatever you tried to describe here. Speaking of border sharing, how much border does India share with Afghanistan? and in broader aspect, the answer will speak of India's irrelevance in this picture. No country wants Afghanistan to go in hand of terrorists hence, China, Pakistan and US are in talks for the peace of Afghanistan.

2. Pakistan just doing what again US is asking to do as like Mussaraf. Only one statement came from your army chief that rest world has to do more but now same thing getting repeated. Drone attacks, etc etc..

Speaking of recent drone attacks, you may not be in knowledge that, same were done at border while hunting most wanted criminals as Khurasani and Mansoor so you can understand that such are results of what COAS said clearly and furthermore, are testimony that US & Pakistan are now working together to get rid of maniac that Kabul regime has been hosting since long. This is how international relations works like working for oneself nation interest and helping each other. No drone strike inside Pakistan but I repeat it was border area and Pakistan is doing whatever it can only based upon actionable Intel provided.

3. Pakistan is trying hard to be with US what so ever US is saying and pakistan is doing.

Not a surprise from your side to read the same as such but looking at the statements and things turning into favour, the outside world is saying something different. Yes, Pakistan is always committed to get rid of terrorism and work with the world or US in this regard though, India can see it the way it wants to but does not prove it as compare to reality. India has already signed LEMOA with US and on other hand Russia knows the outcome of such pact which is totally against Russia's interest in the region especially in Afghanistan that US wouldn't like it at all. Actually, based upon the pact signed by NaMO with US and all the interest with Western World, it is India trying hard to be the part of powerful group while on other hand, the new power pack in shape of China, Pakistan & Russia, is already formed and is reality. India having no other choice as not being on track with China & Pakistan, couldn't contain the situation hence, needed US more than any other party in the region while on other hand US rebuilding relations with Pakistan are actually telling the story that how situation is changed now. India, in my opinion, did or will understand that what really happened here and become a front-man for US to contain China & Pakistan due to its own rivalry where I wouldn't blame US openly that taken full advantage of the same for nation interest same as what India did for. So, the Russia will be doing so whatever suit its interest and there we all see a strong group that will work for betterment of region that only regional powers can do such and it is obvious.

 

[Sugarcane]

And we should do same with the Trucks and Airplanes to/from Afghanistan.

 

[Sankpal]

Sure after all, we can agree to disagree.



Firstly, India can insist US but the real picture is, except the will and would be, India is not included as such as having no influence or to share in this matter hence, excluded realistically. It is realized that India cannot play any major role but on other hand as you mentioned about Russia in Afghanistan, again, India is wrong in this perception that US will never allow as such hence, all the tussle in region. I don't know how explain further but I hope you may read beyond nationalism in this regard w.r.t. geopolitics. These are hopes what you defined as compare to the real picture. US let India to have an access but events unfolded then after actually alerted D.C that India used Afghanistan only to harm Pakistan and trust me, Intel do hold much information than any media baseless reporting. Furthering the situation, Pakistan stopped helping anyone outside but was kept busy for the cleaning inside due to interference of the rival and we succeeded though on other hand, US did realize the damage in Afghanistan that needed Pakistan for the same to contain the situation to which India failed. Lines are drawn and writing is on the wall that India did use an opportunity being short sighted against Pakistan but done more loss to NATO/US and Afghanistan that in my opinion, such times were good for us in the end that today situation is in our favour and US-Pakistan are back online but per same level and frequency.

Pakistan did draw the picture based upon reality and what should be done necessarily for stability of Afghanistan and if India has anything to offer, would have been on board since long ago but No. China has a lot to say in this regard that you will understand in last lines of this post otherwise, US is totally in disagreement whatever you tried to describe here. Speaking of border sharing, how much border does India share with Afghanistan? and in broader aspect, the answer will speak of India's irrelevance in this picture. No country wants Afghanistan to go in hand of terrorists hence, China, Pakistan and US are in talks for the peace of Afghanistan.



Speaking of recent drone attacks, you may not be in knowledge that, same were done at border while hunting most wanted criminals as Khurasani and Mansoor so you can understand that such are results of what COAS said clearly and furthermore, are testimony that US & Pakistan are now working together to get rid of maniac that Kabul regime has been hosting since long. This is how international relations works like working for oneself nation interest and helping each other. No drone strike inside Pakistan but I repeat it was border area and Pakistan is doing whatever it can only based upon actionable Intel provided.



Not a surprise from your side to read the same as such but looking at the statements and things turning into favour, the outside world is saying something different. Yes, Pakistan is always committed to get rid of terrorism and work with the world or US in this regard though, India can see it the way it wants to but does not prove it as compare to reality. India has already signed LEMOA with US and on other hand Russia knows the outcome of such pact which is totally against Russia's interest in the region especially in Afghanistan that US wouldn't like it at all. Actually, based upon the pact signed by NaMO with US and all the interest with Western World, it is India trying hard to be the part of powerful group while on other hand, the new power pack in shape of China, Pakistan & Russia, is already formed and is reality. India having no other choice as not being on track with China & Pakistan, couldn't contain the situation hence, needed US more than any other party in the region while on other hand US rebuilding relations with Pakistan are actually telling the story that how situation is changed now. India, in my opinion, did or will understand that what really happened here and become a front-man for US to contain China & Pakistan due to its own rivalry where I wouldn't blame US openly that taken full advantage of the same for nation interest same as what India did for. So, the Russia will be doing so whatever suit its interest and there we all see a strong group that will work for betterment of region that only regional powers can do such and it is obvious.

Thanks Mod...

I am going to off topic because i want to explain about my understanding. India does not want situation like 1990's where one plane hijacked from Nepal and landed in Kandhar. Taliban will surround again and provide protection to terrorists. If you don't mind I add here also, then that terrorist will free roaming in neighbour country.

It will never be good for India security perpestive. The best thing India can do that provides support to Afghanistan as can India so that Kabul again does not fall into Taliban hands.

Also, we believed that pakistan wants to control Kabul whatever if needed thru Taliban because that suites for pakistan. That's the reason still pakistan says good Taliban and bad Taliban. Good means, those can control by pakistan and bad means, who does not want under pakistan hands and they have some their views. They are involved in bomb last in Pakistan.
Also if internationally people talk about south Asia then you can't avoid India. India is also bigger player in region now what so ever US or Russia, they will involve India on south Asia issue. They can't isolate India because it will against India security interest and will not be good for relationship with India. So they will also include India in such issues

Using mobile. Excuse for typo

 

[The Eagle]

Thanks Mod...

I am going to off topic because i want to explain about my understanding. India does not want situation like 1990's where one plane hijacked from Nepal and landed in Kandhar. Taliban will surround again and provide protection to terrorists. If you don't mind I add here also, then that terrorist will free roaming in neighbour country.

It will never be good for India security perpestive. The best thing India can do that provides support to Afghanistan as can India so that Kabul again does not fall into Taliban hands.

Also, we believed that pakistan wants to control Kabul whatever if needed thru Taliban because that suites for pakistan. That's the reason still pakistan says good Taliban and bad Taliban. Good means, those can control by pakistan and bad means, who does not want under pakistan hands and they have some their views. They are involved in bomb last in Pakistan.
Also if internationally people talk about south Asia then you can't avoid India. India is also bigger player in region now what so ever US or Russia, they will involve India on south Asia issue. They can't isolate India because it will against India security interest and will not be good for relationship with India. So they will also include India in such issues

Using mobile. Excuse for typo

Plan high jacking and negotiating the then Taliban, was India's fault at first by letting it happen. The story has many factors. How come India think that is the only country wanted to fight terrorism yet ignoring the world's acknowledgement of Pakistan success and sacrifices.

India's isolation is not done by any other party of the region but NaMO's policies does so. As I said earlier, India chosen it's side by camping in D.C while on other hand it is totally against Russia let alone China and Pakistan. For understanding of the same, it was India that brought isolation thing in discussion whereby Pakistan went on further with counter diplomacy and strengthen the ties with many countries and Russia is a big name in this. Midi's choose US, lobbied hard to prove the claim of isolation yet resulted our relations with more nations.

NaMO in the chase of same isolation drive landed 8n Kabul to mislead though, Kabul fall in trap yet did not succeed anything and always blames and claims like the subject here. The good and bad Taliban definition is being set for a purpose and Doval is on record for testifying as such but in other words. Mehsud was handed over to us being captured from NDS/R&AW convoy in Afghanistan captured by US itself.

Regards,

 

[BABA AGHORI]

LOLZ...... and you think that with the added transport cost indian goods will be cheap in afghanistan!!!! By the way we are happy as the border is being sealed, as trade with afghanistan was causing more damage.... now all things will be regulated properly,,,,, atleast smuggling will end which will damage the afghan economy more.......

Yeh you can include transportation cost too, a 50 ton truck take 100,000 For 1000 km round trip that will not b more than 2 rupee of additional cost. If smuggling is the issue the borders will open pretty soon. Coz biggest losers would b security, customs, Politicians and businessmen of your side.

 

[AZ1]

Yeh you can include transportation cost too, a 50 ton truck take 50,000 For 1000 km round trip that will not b more than 1 rupee of additional cost. If smuggling is the issue the borders will open pretty soon. Coz biggest losers would b security, customs, Politicians and businessmen of your side.

Why Indians are worried about this. It's between Pakistan and Afghanistan. India wouldn't be accepted PERIOD. Cost goes high let it be. We will manage, like we managed 60+ years.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Why Indians are worried about this. It's between Pakistan and Afghanistan. India wouldn't be accepted PERIOD. Cost goes high let it be. We will manage, like we managed 60+ years.

Lollz, we just want to make it unmanageable. EVIL BANIYA wants and will do Business