Advanced F-35 fighter jets set to land in Israel today

[Hassan Guy]

No we haven't those

http://www.firstpost.com/world/paki...-eight-chinese-attack-submarines-2985174.html

 

[DavidSling]

F-35 stealth fighter jets arrive in Israel
Carter stated that now, together, the US and Israel will now dominate the skies.

F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. (photo credit:Wikimedia Commons)

Despite the initial delay, Israel celebrated the arrival of the first two F-35 Jets Monday night with a ceremony at Nevatim Airbase near Beersheba.

Speaking to the crowd, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated, "Our goal is to obtain supremacy in every theater: in the air, in the sea, on the ground and cyber."

Netanyahu continued stating that weak nations don't survive, however nations that are strong are respected.

Addressing US Defense Secretary Ash Carter, Netanyahu said that “Israel is your best friend in the Middle East, and personally I think, beyond the Middle East.”

Israel he said, “was just made longer and stronger today. I want to be clear: anyone who thinks of attacking us, will be attacked. History has taught us that only strength brings deterrence, only strength brings peace and respect.”

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin took the stage to welcome the plane, named the 'Adir.' Rivlin explained how the plane would soon redefine the country's abilities as well as Israel's operational space.

Welcoming Carter to the stage, Rivlin stated that "Israel is the US' best and more reliable ally, in the region and beyond."

Israel will remain so, Rivlin added.

Carter stated that now, together, the US and Israel will now dominate the skies.
"The US Israel defense relationship is stronger than ever, and America’s pledge to defend Israel’s security remains unwavering," Carter added.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/F-35-stealth-fighter-jets-arrive-in-Israel-475171

 

[500]

First 2 F-35 just landed in Israel. Next year 7 more.

 

[Ultima Thule]

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So what? we don't want to buy 10 or 15 F-35, at-least 40 to 50 jets add 150 million $ for jet than add servicing and maintenance cost and than add weapon package cost, its can easily shoot 200 million $ per jet so can calculate total cost of 40 to 50 jets its total cost some where in between 15 to 20 billion $

 

[DavidSling]

First 2 F-35 just landed in Israel. Next year 7 more.

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The only AirForce in the region with fifth generation plane, More models of F35-I in the future

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[DavidSling]

 

[Hassan Guy]

So what? we don't want to buy 10 or 15 F-35, at-least 40 to 50 jets add 150 million $ for jet than add servicing and maintenance cost and than add weapon package cost, its can easily shoot 200 million $ per jet so can calculate total cost of 40 to 50 jets its total cost some where in between 15 to 20 billion $

You are WAY overestimating the cost. In a few years the F-35A will be 85 million per unit.
As I said before countries with lower defence budgets and similar economies to Pakistan ordered the F-35 in fair numbers.

 

[mike2000 is back]

You are WAY overestimating the cost. In a few years the F-35A will be 85 million per unit.
As I said before countries with lower defence budgets and similar economies to Pakistan ordered the F-35 in fair numbers.

Sorry but no middle eastern or muslim country with be sold the F-35. Apart from Turkey, since they are still part of NATO(they were smart in joining the western camp early on) and so were among the countries who was involved in F-35 program(also due to them being part of NATO). Plus only member countries who participated and contributed in this program will get this jet.
Additionally, even if it was to be sold , it will be to gulf states/KSA who are close western allies and got the hard cash to buy these in significant numbers, Pakistan will be the last to be able to afford this and even more so ,the threat of this advanced jet avionics/systems/engines/technology etc being leaked to China will prevent any of these jets ever being sold to Pakistan.

Apart from that there is probably no Muslim country(outside Turkey) that will get the F-35 in the foreseeable future. That's a fact unfortunately.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Sorry but no middle eastern or muslim country with be sold the F-35. Apart from Turkey, since they are still part of NATO(they were smart in joining the western camp early on) and so were among the countries who was involved in F-35 program(also due to them being part of NATO). Plus only member countries who participated and contributed in this program will get this jet.
Additionally, even if it was to be sold , it will be to gulf states/KSA who are close western allies and got the hard cash to buy these in significant numbers, Pakistan will be the last to be able to afford this and even more so ,the threat of this advanced jet avionics/systems being leaked to China will prevent any of these jets ever being sold to Pakistan.

Apart from that there is probably no Muslim country that will get the F-35 in the foreseeable future. That's a fact unfortunately.

Wrong, the fighter is for export, korea and japan aren't involved in the program or part of NATO but still bought the jet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_procurement

 

[Ultima Thule]

You are WAY overestimating the cost. In a few years the F-35A will be 85 million per unit.
As I said before countries with lower defence budgets and similar economies to Pakistan ordered the F-35 in fair numbers.

Just shut up you are an idiot just look F-16 block 60 deal they get 80 F-16 for 12 billion $ in 90's

 

[Hassan Guy]

Just shut up you are an idiot just look F-16 block 60 deal they get 80 F-16 for 12 billion $ in 90's

In fact a simple calculation shows that the Dutch government thus expects a maximum investment of 5500/85=65 Million Euro to bring an F-35 into service.

The total lifetime cost for a unit (including operational service) would be about US$215 million.

The Dutch government announced that it will purchase 37 JSF fighters for a purchase price of around 4.5 billion Euros.

Danish defence committee agreed to purchase 27 F-35As to succeed the F-16. The price tag is 3 billion USD.

 

[Ultima Thule]

You are WAY overestimating the cost. In a few years the F-35A will be 85 million per unit.
As I said before countries with lower defence budgets and similar economies to Pakistan ordered the F-35 in fair numbers.

this will be basic cost of jet without maintenance and weapon package cost can easily go above 120 to 125 per jet, in few years J-31 will also be ready so why we need F-35

In fact a simple calculation shows that the Dutch government thus expects a maximum investment of 5500/85=65 Million Euro to bring an F-35 into service.

The total lifetime cost for a unit (including operational service) would be about US$215 million.

The Dutch government announced that it will purchase 37 JSF fighters for a purchase price of around 4.5 billion Euros.

Dutch is NATO member and investor, US and Europe always charge extra from Muslim countries, that's my points

 

[Hassan Guy]

this will be basic cost of jet without maintenance and weapon package cost can easily go above 120 to 125 per jet, in few years J-31 will also be ready so why we need F-35

Who said the J-31 would be ready? Its a prototype project that could be cancelled anytime, it has no funding or plans of procurement from the Chinese government.

And if it does enter service it would be far inferior to the F-35.

BTW can you give me the list of nations buying the J-31?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Wrong, the fighter is for export, korea and japan aren't involved in the program or part of NATO but still bought the jet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_procurement

Nope you can't compare a western ally like Korea and Japan hosting huge US military bases, share western values and have been aligned to the West for a long time now and have common interests with western powers with Pakistan.lol. The U.S has no reason not to sell the F-35 to Korea and Japan (two of its closest and most advanced allies in Asia) compared to Pakistan . Lol

 

[Ultima Thule]

Who said the J-31 would be ready? Its a prototype project that could be cancelled anytime, it has no funding or plans of procurement from the Chinese government.

And if it does enter service it would be far inferior to the F-35.

BTW can you give me the list of nations buying the J-31?

you have a F-35 phobia kid, J-31V2 will flying in this month, And PAF showed its interest in it, we are not in a hurry mode Kid, indian FGFA and AMCA will not come to IAF in 2023 to 2025 than J-31 or single engine variant of J-20 will be ready go kid play you toys this place is not for yours there no chance to get F-35 in near future, US tilt in the favor of India, and also not to forget IN considering F-35 for its carriers@waz can you tell @Hassan Guy that we can't get F-35 in near future