Achakzai problem!

[Path-Finder]

Listen to Sarfraz Bugti! All problems that we are seeing has one mother f#cker behind it.

that taki wearing achakzai!!!


WHY IS THIS CUNT BEING TOLERATED

 

[BHarwana]

WHY IS THIS CUNT BEING TOLERATED

Don't want another Akbar Bugti like drama.

 

[Path-Finder]

Don't want another Akbar Bugti like drama.

Not the same issue and the times have changed. His treachery is out in the open!

 

[BHarwana]

Not the same issue and the times have changed. His treachery is out in the open!

If you kill a man and let his ideology live you will suffer. Musharraf killed bugti and let the ideology live and there was a problem.

Now look in case of Nawaz his ideology is killed so here he will die him self.

 

[Path-Finder]

If you kill a man and let his ideology live you will suffer. Musharraf killed bugti and let the ideology live and there was a problem.

Now look in case of Nawaz his ideology is killed so here he will die him self.

but there is NO counter narrative out there!

 

[BHarwana]

but there is NO counter narrative out there!

It is never about counter narrative. The power never comes from money it always comes from followers you have to take that strength first. destroying the snakes head is old theory now you have to kill the whole body of the snake.

 

[Sharpshooter12]

He is again a product of shortsightedness of our establishment. This is no secret that this man and his PKMAP has been propped up by the establishment during the last two decades. Objective was to diffuse the Baloch secessionist movement and sentiment by showcasing Baluchistan as a multi-ethnic province with a very large Pashtun population.

This is the same logic that was used to support MQM in its early years as a counter to SindhuDesh movement of GM Syed.

There was a reason behind why Nadra facilitated Achakzai's shenanigans of getting NICs for Afghan refugees in Baluchistan, this was a sort of demographic engineering on our establishment's part. The problem with this approach is that those thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Afghans who got Pakistani nationality are still Afghani in their hearts. They have no love lost for Pakistan, its interests or its survival for that matter and will support Achakzai in whatever heinous designs he has for the country.

This guy is well on the path of becoming the next Altaf Hussain. PKMAP of course has no hold over Pashtuns of KPK or Fata for that matter, but has serious influence in northern part of Baluchistan. He will not show his true colors until his party or that of his minion Pashteen get enough support in KP, once they achieved that we'll be in for a shitshow of gigantic proportion.

 

[airmarshal]

Question is what does Pakistan army and ISI factually know about external interference. What actions can it take to prevent it and to out the names of those politicians who have become agents?

In Pakistan, there is a dedicated work going on to demoralize the army and create a distance between army and people.

 

[Dalit]

This Afghan leaning Achakzai scum looks like another Bugti in the making.

Question is what does Pakistan army and ISI factually know about external interference. What actions can it take to prevent it and to out the names of those politicians who have become agents?

In Pakistan, there is a dedicated work going on to demoralize the army and create a distance between army and people.

The enemy is strong and dedicated, but so are we and our armed forces.

The only thing that matters is how to keep a tab on these anti-Pakistan vultures.

 

[Winchester]

He is again a product of shortsightedness of our establishment. This is no secret that this man and his PKMAP has been propped up by the establishment during the last two decades. Objective was to diffuse the Baloch secessionist movement and sentiment by showcasing Baluchistan as a multi-ethnic province with a very large Pashtun population.

This is the same logic that was used to support MQM in its early years as a counter to SindhuDesh movement of GM Syed.

There was a reason behind why Nadra facilitated Achakzai's shenanigans of getting NICs for Afghan refugees in Baluchistan, this was a sort of demographic engineering on our establishment's part. The problem with this approach is that those thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Afghans who got Pakistani nationality are still Afghani in their hearts. They have no love lost for Pakistan, its interests or its survival for that matter and will support Achakzai in whatever heinous designs he has for the country.

This guy is well on the path of becoming the next Altaf Hussain. PKMAP of course has no hold over Pashtuns of KPK or Fata for that matter, but has serious influence in northern part of Baluchistan. He will not show his true colors until his party or that of his minion Pashteen get enough support in KP, once they achieved that we'll be in for a shitshow of gigantic proportion.

Pathans of Northern Balochistan are one of the core support bases of PTM.

 

[TMA]

He is again a product of shortsightedness of our establishment. This is no secret that this man and his PKMAP has been propped up by the establishment during the last two decades. Objective was to diffuse the Baloch secessionist movement and sentiment by showcasing Baluchistan as a multi-ethnic province with a very large Pashtun population.

This is the same logic that was used to support MQM in its early years as a counter to SindhuDesh movement of GM Syed.

There was a reason behind why Nadra facilitated Achakzai's shenanigans of getting NICs for Afghan refugees in Baluchistan, this was a sort of demographic engineering on our establishment's part. The problem with this approach is that those thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Afghans who got Pakistani nationality are still Afghani in their hearts. They have no love lost for Pakistan, its interests or its survival for that matter and will support Achakzai in whatever heinous designs he has for the country.

This guy is well on the path of becoming the next Altaf Hussain. PKMAP of course has no hold over Pashtuns of KPK or Fata for that matter, but has serious influence in northern part of Baluchistan. He will not show his true colors until his party or that of his minion Pashteen get enough support in KP, once they achieved that we'll be in for a shitshow of gigantic proportion.

Why could not the Establishment use Pakistani Pukhtoons or Pakistan Punjabis to go to Baluchistan. Afterall it would still be their country...

 

[Sharpshooter12]

Why could not the Establishment use Pakistani Pukhtoons or Pakistan Punjabis to go to Baluchistan. Afterall it would still be their country...

For two reasons actually.

One Punjabis were present in Baluchistan for a very long time, initially they were there for government jobs during the British and early post partition era, later they moved to Quetta for establishing businesses. By early 2000 most of the menial laborers like barbers etc were Punjabis in Quetta, but after Akbar Bugti episode Baluch insurgents started targeting Punjabis in the province and that lead to some horrendous massacres that lead to an exodus of Punjabis and Urdu speaking populace of Quetta and other city centers.

Two Pushtuns of KPK and Fata can find better opportunities within cities like Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Islamabad and Lahore i.e only a few hours drive from their home. And if they have to migrate for a better job opportunity Karachi offers much more options than say Quetta.

As this is their country so both Punjabis and Pushtuns have options while Afghans are not welcomed in other parts of the country like how PKMAP and Achakzai welcomes them in Baluchistan.

But that is not the point to ponder, Baluchistan is and should remain as a Baluch majority province. We have to sort their grievances, give them their due rights and crack down on the militancy whether nationalist or sectarian, and Baluchistan will be fine.

 

[Kabira]

He is again a product of shortsightedness of our establishment. This is no secret that this man and his PKMAP has been propped up by the establishment during the last two decades. Objective was to diffuse the Baloch secessionist movement and sentiment by showcasing Baluchistan as a multi-ethnic province with a very large Pashtun population.

This is the same logic that was used to support MQM in its early years as a counter to SindhuDesh movement of GM Syed.

There was a reason behind why Nadra facilitated Achakzai's shenanigans of getting NICs for Afghan refugees in Baluchistan, this was a sort of demographic engineering on our establishment's part. The problem with this approach is that those thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Afghans who got Pakistani nationality are still Afghani in their hearts. They have no love lost for Pakistan, its interests or its survival for that matter and will support Achakzai in whatever heinous designs he has for the country.

This guy is well on the path of becoming the next Altaf Hussain. PKMAP of course has no hold over Pashtuns of KPK or Fata for that matter, but has serious influence in northern part of Baluchistan. He will not show his true colors until his party or that of his minion Pashteen get enough support in KP, once they achieved that we'll be in for a shitshow of gigantic proportion.

I don't think this is as straight forward as you are making it out. Do youreally think muhajirs will be in any way favour of ethnic based Sindhudesh?

Do you know south punjab leaders had to shun politics of seraki province to get support from all stake holders living in south punjab? Similarly there was more chances of south sindh province happening if MQM didn't exist or their movement was not based on ethnicity. If everyone from Karachi was on same page irrespective ethnicity then separate province was possible where muhajirs dominated.

PKMAP politics are in response to Baloch nationalist politics. But now new party in Balochistan is of mixed bag and if it succeed then pashtun and baloch nationalist parties will likely die out.

 

[Sharpshooter12]

I don't think this is as straight forward as you are making it out. Do youreally think muhajirs will be in any way favour of ethnic based Sindhudesh?

You did not get the point sir.

In the 80's SinduDesh was a secessionist movement led by GM Syed which wanted to create a free country out of Sindh. MQM was propped up as a counter to it by the establishment to showcase Sindh as a multi-ethnic province where Urdu speaking population are a major stake holder, and who will naturally not be in favor of such a state.

Similarly PKMAP was propped up by the agencies as a counter to Baloch nationalism. Now propping up does not mean they were created by establishment, both the parties were organic and were created because of aspirations of the people they were likely to represent. But it is a fact that during different eras, both MQM and PKMAP received tacit support from agencies.

 

[Kabira]

You did not get the point sir.

In the 80's SinduDesh was a secessionist movement led by GM Syed which wanted to create a free country out of Sindh. MQM was propped up as a counter to it by the establishment to showcase Sindh as a multi-ethnic province where Urdu speaking population are a major stake holder, and who will naturally not be in favor of such a state.

Similarly PKMAP was propped up by the agencies as a counter to Baloch nationalism. Now propping up does not mean they were created by establishment, both the parties were organic and were created because of aspirations of the people they were likely to represent. But it is a fact that during different eras, both MQM and PKMAP received tacit support from agencies.

Yes they have been supporting different parties. Even now establishment is trying her best to get rid of N-league and is supporting PTI. But without people support all these parties would fail. This is why Musharraf lost badly in 2008 election.