Accused Indian diplomat needs US OK for UN job

[WAR-rior]

We don't need to do anything as long as Pakistan bombing itself. Wait! Wait! How can I forgot American DRONES.

Ouch. that was below the belt.

 

[Bombermanx1]

Read the article again. This is from AP, not from some Indian toilet paper. If US has the guts to arrest her, US would have the guts to put her on trial. Instead of focus on getting out of US by tough talk, what India should do is hiring the best lawyer to defend her when she is on trial. If she is found not guilty, than she walks.

"But the U.N. spokesman’s office said Monday the U.S. State Department must approve the transfer of Devyani Khobragade from her consulate post to India’s U.N. Mission."

DO THAT IF YOU GOT BALLS!

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

So neither the US or India are willing to let go?

What troubles me is that this diplomat lied, she ought to be prosecuted.

Let go ...

 

[Bombermanx1]

She is a glorified clerk like every other IFS officer. She is quite capable of abusing her power to underpay a maid and be a slave master.



Just because India is incapable of enforcing laws in its country doesn't mean every country should do the same.



Q: So what's stopping India from detaining them? A: Lack of balls!



Anything on your Christmas wishlist? Stop believing in Santa, grow up!

Yeah how about you drop that facade called Democracy and Worlds largest democracy,We are not going to be bullied by you if you didn't understand, . so drop it.What can USA do at the most? bring Hellfire on us? JUST TRY IT PLEASE !

Right, and that is what India should have been trying for IMO. But, sadly Indians believe that ridiculous measures like removing security barriers and removing the duty waiver on alcohol would force US to acquiesce.

No please threaten your worst against India, do your worst, what more worse thing can you do? drop Nukes?Thank you!

So neither the US or India are willing to let go?

What troubles me is that this diplomat lied, she ought to be prosecuted.

Let go ...

Fear and loathing in New York: Former diplomat Prabhu Dayal reveals how Indian envoys to the US can fall victim to maids pursuing their American dreams | Mail Online
Perhaps my friend you should read that news first and then decide.

 

[BloodyPak96]

She will get that easily. US does not have the guts to stop that.

Yeah, because we're so scared of some third world shithole where people defecate out in the open. Please don't hurt us, we're so scared

 

[Bombermanx1]

Yeah, because we're so scared of some third world shithole where people defecate out in the open. Please don't hurt us, we're so scared

Yes! nor are we so Shivering in our boots, please come and get us!
You couldn't even handle vietnam,North korea,iraq,Afghanisthan!
Speaks volumes of a high tech military with low output of results and productivity.

 

[BloodyPak96]

Yes no are we so Shivering in our boots, please come and get us!
You couldn't even handle vietnam,North korea,iraq,Afghanisthan!
Speaks volumes of a high tech military with low output of results and productivity.

lol typical indian. When we destroy muslim nations you support us like lap dogs. But when we insult you, suddenly we lost every damn war we've been in. You can barely handle pakistan, let alone us. Go back to wiping your *** with your left hand.

 

[Bombermanx1]

lol typical indian. When we destroy muslim nations you support us like lap dogs. But when we insult you, suddenly we lost every damn war we've been in. You can barely handle pakistan, let alone us. Go back to wiping your *** with your left hand.

When were we lapdogs to you?> REMEMBER?
About pakistan we lost yeah,that was the reason your USA had to send 7th Nuclear carrier fleet to Indian ocean in 1971 to threaten us? WOW! That is some threatening.
How about geography Mr.Patriot look at east now and tell me

 

[BloodyPak96]

When were we lapdogs to you?> REMEMBER?
About pakistan we lost yeah,that was the reason your USA had to send 7th Nuclear carrier fleet to Indian ocean in 1971 to threaten us? WOW! That is some threatening.
How about geography Mr.Patriot look at east now and tell me

lol you stupid lap dog. Go on any us vs muslim thread in this forum. You people are nothing but lowly lap dogs. You never lost to pakistan but you never beat them either unless you had the total upper hand. If america decided to go full out on india, you think you could stop us?

 

[Bombermanx1]

lol you stupid lap dog. Go on any us vs muslim thread in this forum. You people are nothing but lowly lap dogs. You never lost to pakistan but you never beat them either unless you had the total upper hand. If america decided to go full out on india, you think you could stop us?

All right i am off! Thank you! I know when to talk to sane and insane.

Watch it you moron you are a Epitome of Democracy and champions of it?
shame.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Fear and loathing in New York: Former diplomat Prabhu Dayal reveals how Indian envoys to the US can fall victim to maids pursuing their American dreams | Mail Online
Perhaps my friend you should read that news first and then decide.

There is some sense in what Mr. Dayal had said.

Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't taking a shot against your country. The only issue that I have is that why she didn't fill in the correct info needed for her nanny.

Do you think the nanny wanted to create all this noise because she wanted to stay there like forever?

 

[Bombermanx1]

There is some sense in what Mr. Dayal had said.

Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't taking a shot against your country. The only issue that I have is that why she didn't fill in the correct info needed for her nanny.

Do you think the nanny wanted to create all this noise because she wanted to stay there like forever?

My friend, USA knows it, not everyone is paid according to their local labour laws, it has been the same thing for the past 60+ years since India got Independence and established it's Embassy in USA.Don't you think they know, us being a Worlds Largest Democracy as their President Obama says in official statement?
Does he not know we pay our own diplomat lesser than USA Labour laws which say you get 4500$.
When our own Diplomat gets a salary of 4,200$.How can she pay more 4,500$ when she doesn't even earn her herself?
When we asked USA gives all kinds of answers. But truth is we had a falling apart in Afghanisthan,Iran and the 10 billion $MMRCA Contract to Rafael (Dassault Aviation) France.Usa want's to call itself champion of democracy nowadays!
Nanny is capable of spying sensible documents, that is why she and her family are granted asylum, you read the case and you will be astounded.

So anything other than Democracy is a big EVIL now according to USA, That is why you see the Arab Spring(Frankly Speaking).

 

[faithfulguy]

Spill it over, we in India are waiting for you say it, how far you want to go... we are ready, we already made our worst decision to cut ties and recall our missions back,you ready for that?

If India decide to cut ties over an illegal action by its diplomats, that is fine. There is nothing we would do to stop you. But breaking the relationship will hurt both US and India and India would not do such that. I would advise India to retain the best possible lawyer to defend the diplomat so she can be acquitted and go back home. This is the best course to alleviate the situation.

DO THAT IF YOU GOT BALLS!

US is already doing it. We have already put the criminal diplomat in jail and she needed to be bailed out. Her passport is confiscated. And she would have to go through trial. As I said, get a good lawyer.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

If India decide to cut ties over an illegal action by its diplomats, that is fine. There is nothing we would do to stop you. But breaking the relationship will hurt both US and India and India would not do such that. I would advise India to retain the best possible lawyer to defend the diplomat so she can be acquitted and go back home. This is the best course to alleviate the situation.

US is already doing it. We have already put the criminal diplomat in jail and she needed to be bailed out. Her passport is confiscated. And she would have to go through trial. As I said, get a good lawyer.

India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials

NEW DELHI: In a perceptible hardening of stand against the US, India on Christmas eve rejected the American embassy's request for an extension on IDs for its consulate officials. With the deadline for surrender of these cards ending on Monday, India withdrew all identity cards of US consulate officials.

The move to issue fresh IDs came days after the arrest of senior Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade on visa fraud charges involving her domestic staff, Sangeeta Richard.

In a related development Kuoni Business Travels, a popular travel agent in Delhi, will face action from the government for issuing tax-free air tickets to the Richards family — Philip, Jennifer and Jatin — bought by the US embassy. The 'tax-exemption' applies only to diplomats and not to Indian citizens, and there was no doubt that the Richards are Indian citizens.

The Richards' ticket — PNR number H1XJ3 — was paid for byMasterCard. The endorsement of the ticket reads "JNTAXEXEMPTEDUSEMBASSY". Sources said there would be action against the travel agency. The US embassy spirited away the Richards in a way that has incensed the Indian government.

Sources said US diplomats in consular posts (US has four consulates in India) would get a new set of cards that are an exact replica of the cards issued to Indian diplomats in the US. The cards, which would be given to consulate officials and not their families, (unlike earlier) reflects the reciprocity India has been insisting on. The cards will say on the reverse that consulate officials have no immunity against felony charges.

The hardening of stand by the government is contrary to the almost conciliatory tone taken by foreign minister Salman Khurshid in his interactions with journalists. Sources said the US government was trying to stall or delay the actions that they had to take.

Meanwhile, keeping security considerations in mind, the government has changed some traffic movement patterns near the US embassy. Sources said, "All US diplomatic and consular officials are being provided security as before. No changes have been made in security status of US embassy in New Delhi and the security personnel remain deployed at check posts there."

There are a couple of steps left to be achieved in this case. First, the US state department has to issue an ID card to Khobragade which will seal her immunity status. The next step would be to negotiate with the department of justice and the state department to drop criminal charges against her, which will enable the government to bring her back easily.

Further down the road, both Khobragade and Sangeeta Richard would have to come to some understanding about the charges filed by the maid. Richard has a non-bailable warrant on her which means she can never return without being arrested at the airport.

In a larger context, India and the US would need to have a deeper dialogue on the rules of the game regarding their diplomats and what privileges they can enjoy in each other's country.

"The US system really needs to understand two things. First, Khobragade, or any Indian diplomat, is not an ordinary citizen on an ordinary visa. They have been sent by the government of India to work for the government. Their actions are governed by government of India rules. The same goes for IBDAs like Sangeeta Richard who go on official passports and their passage and salaries are paid for by the government," sources said.
Earlier, US consulate officials had it easy: they could import their requirements at any time during their three-year period of tenure in India. All that stops from Christmas day. US officials in consular posts will now have to import their requirements within the first six months after their arrival. Refuting media reports, officials said there was no clearance for duty-free goods since the freeze was imposed.

Officials said they had received the data on US schools in India which was being analysed. The government has started a scrutiny of whether US diplomats' families are engaged in tax-free employment which they are not entitled to.


A) US goods stuck at Indian Customs , Indian Customs asked multiple quires so their container is still at airport. US made cheese might get Rot their.
B) US Councillor spouse might come under Indian TAX violations. therefore Councillor now will be sending SOS to US.

C) One MNC travel company is not see the Indian Govt face which make other Travel Agent to keep away from US in future.


India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials
India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials

 

[faithfulguy]

India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials

NEW DELHI: In a perceptible hardening of stand against the US, India on Christmas eve rejected the American embassy's request for an extension on IDs for its consulate officials. With the deadline for surrender of these cards ending on Monday, India withdrew all identity cards of US consulate officials.

The move to issue fresh IDs came days after the arrest of senior Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade on visa fraud charges involving her domestic staff, Sangeeta Richard.

In a related development Kuoni Business Travels, a popular travel agent in Delhi, will face action from the government for issuing tax-free air tickets to the Richards family — Philip, Jennifer and Jatin — bought by the US embassy. The 'tax-exemption' applies only to diplomats and not to Indian citizens, and there was no doubt that the Richards are Indian citizens.

The Richards' ticket — PNR number H1XJ3 — was paid for byMasterCard. The endorsement of the ticket reads "JNTAXEXEMPTEDUSEMBASSY". Sources said there would be action against the travel agency. The US embassy spirited away the Richards in a way that has incensed the Indian government.

Sources said US diplomats in consular posts (US has four consulates in India) would get a new set of cards that are an exact replica of the cards issued to Indian diplomats in the US. The cards, which would be given to consulate officials and not their families, (unlike earlier) reflects the reciprocity India has been insisting on. The cards will say on the reverse that consulate officials have no immunity against felony charges.

The hardening of stand by the government is contrary to the almost conciliatory tone taken by foreign minister Salman Khurshid in his interactions with journalists. Sources said the US government was trying to stall or delay the actions that they had to take.

Meanwhile, keeping security considerations in mind, the government has changed some traffic movement patterns near the US embassy. Sources said, "All US diplomatic and consular officials are being provided security as before. No changes have been made in security status of US embassy in New Delhi and the security personnel remain deployed at check posts there."

There are a couple of steps left to be achieved in this case. First, the US state department has to issue an ID card to Khobragade which will seal her immunity status. The next step would be to negotiate with the department of justice and the state department to drop criminal charges against her, which will enable the government to bring her back easily.

Further down the road, both Khobragade and Sangeeta Richard would have to come to some understanding about the charges filed by the maid. Richard has a non-bailable warrant on her which means she can never return without being arrested at the airport.

In a larger context, India and the US would need to have a deeper dialogue on the rules of the game regarding their diplomats and what privileges they can enjoy in each other's country.

"The US system really needs to understand two things. First, Khobragade, or any Indian diplomat, is not an ordinary citizen on an ordinary visa. They have been sent by the government of India to work for the government. Their actions are governed by government of India rules. The same goes for IBDAs like Sangeeta Richard who go on official passports and their passage and salaries are paid for by the government," sources said.
Earlier, US consulate officials had it easy: they could import their requirements at any time during their three-year period of tenure in India. All that stops from Christmas day. US officials in consular posts will now have to import their requirements within the first six months after their arrival. Refuting media reports, officials said there was no clearance for duty-free goods since the freeze was imposed.

Officials said they had received the data on US schools in India which was being analysed. The government has started a scrutiny of whether US diplomats' families are engaged in tax-free employment which they are not entitled to.

A) US goods stuck at Indian Customs , Indian Customs asked multiple quires so their container is still at airport. US made cheese might get Rot their.
B) US Councillor spouse might come under Indian TAX violations. therefore Councillor now will be sending SOS to US.

C) One MNC travel company is not see the Indian Govt face which make other Travel Agent to keep away from US in future.


India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials
India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials

Americans consulate should be closed as we are afforded diplomatic immunity. Leave the embassy open. The only people that will be hurt are the Indians coming to America to have their H1B visa stamped.