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Accession of J&K : Excerpts from Manekshaw's Interview

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Below are excepts of Sam's interview with Prem Shankar Jha, interesting for those who may not know..

Thank God for Sardar Patel.


'Jawaharlal, do you want Kashmir, or do you want to give it away? Sam Manekshaw,** the first field marshal in the Indian army, was at the ringside of events when Independent India was being formed. Then a colonel, he was chosen to accompany V P Menon on his historic mission to Kashmir. This is his version of that journey and its aftermath, as recorded in an interview with **Prem Shankar Jha.*****


At about 2.30 in the afternoon, *General Sir Roy Bucher* walked into my room and said, 'Eh, you, go and pick up your toothbrush. You are going to Srinagar with V P Menon. The flight will take off at about 4 o'clock'. I said, 'why me, sir?' *'Because we are worried about the military situation..*V P Menon is going there to get the accession from the Maharaja and Mahajan.'* I flew in with V P Menon in a Dakota.

Wing Commander Dewan, who was then squadron leader Dewan, was also there. But his job did not have anything to with assessing the military situation. He was sent by the Air Force because it was the Air Force which was flying us in.' Since I was in the *Directorate of Military Operations,* and was responsible for current operations all over India, West Frontier, the Punjab, and elsewhere, I knew what the situation in Kashmir was. I knew that the tribesmen had come in - initially only the tribesmen – supported by the Pakistanis.

Fortunately for us, and for Kashmir, they were busy raiding, raping all along.* In Baramulla they killed Colonel D O T Dykes.. Dykes and I were of the same seniority. We did our first year's attachment with the Royal Scots in Lahore, way back in 1934-5. Tom went to the Sikh regiment. I went to the Frontier Force regiment. We'd lost contact with each other. He'd become a lieutenant colonel. I'd become a full colonel. Tom and his wife were holidaying in Baramulla when the tribesmen killed them. The Maharaja's forces were 50 per cent Muslim and 50 per cent Dogra. The Muslim elements had revolted and joined the Pakistani forces. This was the broad military situation. The tribesmen were believed to be about 7 to 9 kilometers from Srinagar. I was sent into get the precise military situation.

The army knew that if we had to send soldiers, we would have to fly them in. Therefore, a few days before, we had made arrangements for aircraft and for soldiers to be ready. But we couldn't fly them in until the state of Kashmir had acceded to India. From the political side, Sardar Patel and V P Menon had been dealing with Mahajan and the Maharaja, and the idea was that V.P Menon would get the Accession, I would bring back the military appreciation and report to the government.

The troops were already at the airport, ready to be flown in. Air Chief Marshall Elmhurst was the air chief and he had made arrangements for the aircraft from civil and military sources. Anyway, we were flown in. We went to Srinagar. We went to the palace. I have never seen such disorganisation in my life. The Maharaja was running about from one room to the other. I have never seen so much jewellery in my life --- pearl necklaces, ruby things, lying in one room; packing here, there, everywhere. There was a convoy of vehicles. The Maharaja was coming out of one room, and going into another saying, *'Alright, if India doesn't help, I will go and join my troops and fight (it) out'. I couldn't restrain myself, and said, *'That will raise their morale sir'.*Eventually, I also got the military situation from everybody around us, asking what the hell was happening, and discovered that the tribesmen were about seven or nine kilometres from what was then that horrible little airfield. V P Menon was in the meantime discussing with Mahajan and the Maharaja. *Eventually the Maharaja signed the accession papers and we flew back in the Dakota late at night.

There were no night facilities, and the people who were helping us to fly back, to light the airfield, were Sheikh Abdullah, Kasim sahib, Sadiqsahib, Bakshi Ghulam Mohammed, D P Dhar with pine torches, and we flew back to Delhi. I can't remember the exact time. It must have been 3 o'clock or 4 o'clock in the morning. On arriving at Delhi the first thing I did was to go and report to Sir Roy Bucher. He said, 'Eh, you, go and shave and clean up. There is a cabinet meeting at 9 o'clock. I will pick you up and take you there.' So I went home, shaved, dressed, etc. and Roy Bucher picked me up, and we went to the cabinet meeting. The cabinet meeting was presided by Mountbatten.

There was Jawaharlal Nehru, there was Sardar Patel, there was Sardar Baldev Singh. There were other ministers whom I did not know and did not want to know, because I had nothing to do with them. Sardar Baldev Singh I knew because he was the minister for defence, and I knew Sardar Patel, because Patel would insist that V P Menon take me with him to the various states. Almost every morning the Sardar would sent for V P, H M Patel and myself. While Maniben (Patel's daughter and de facto secretary) would sit cross-legged with a Parker fountain pen taking notes, Patel would say, 'V P, I want Baroda. Take him with you.' I was the bogeyman. So I got to know the Sardar very well. At the morning meeting he handed over the (Accession) thing. Mountbatten turned around and said, ' come on Manekji (He called me Manekji instead of Manekshaw), what is the military situation?' I gave him the military situation, and told him that unless we flew in troops immediately, we would have lost Srinagar, because going by road would take days, and once the tribesmen got to the airport and Srinagar, we couldn't fly troops in. Everything was ready at the airport.

As usual Nehru talked about the United Nations, Russia, Africa, God almighty, everybody,until Sardar Patel lost his temper.* He said, Jawaharlal, do you want Kashmir, or do you want to give it away'.He (Nehru) said,' Of course, I want Kashmir (emphasis in original). Then he (Patel) said 'Please give your orders'. And before he could say anything Sardar Patel turned to me and said, 'You have got your orders'.

I walked out, and we started flying in troops at about 11 o'clock or 12 o'clock. I think it was the Sikh regiment under Ranjit Rai that was the first lot to be flown in. And then we continued flying troops in. That is all I know about what happened. Then all the fighting took place. I became a brigadier, and became director of military operations and also if you will see the first signal to be signed ordering the cease-fire on 1 January (1949) had been signed by Colonel Manekshaw on behalf of C-in-C India, General Sir Roy Bucher. That must be lying in the Military Operations Directorate
 
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the Nehru Gandhi family overall has been :tdown:

I disgree here.

IG showed remarkable clear headedness in 71, a lesser person may not have gone the complete mile.

Sure , like all humans she had a failings too , she had too many Yes - men around her.

The book " Matters of Discretion' by IK Gujral is worth a read.
 
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the Nehru Gandhi family overall has been :tdown:

I think we should keep things in perspective and be rational/logical when commenting and not blindly comment about political matters like fanboys of a certain party.

If everything bad is going to be attributed to the Nehru/Gandhi family, or Congress in general, then it is also a fact that most good things that have happened to India were also a result of the very same political entity, because Congress has been in charge for majority of post-Independence India.
 
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Moreover who can forgive Nehruji for the great 62 loss.
And agreeing to put Kashmir on the UN agenda! But thank God for some clued up bureaucrats, the resolution was passed by United Nations Security Council under chapter VI of UN Charter which are considered non binding and have no mandatory enforceability as opposed to the resolutions passed under Chapter VII.
 
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I disgree here.

IG showed remarkable clear headedness in 71, a lesser person may not have gone the complete mile.

Sure , like all humans she had a failings too , she had too many Yes - men around her.

The book " Matters of Discretion' by IK Gujral is worth a read.
that's why I said overall, IG was an exception...

I think we should keep things in perspective and be rational/logical when commenting and not blindly comment about political matters like fanboys of a certain party.

If everything bad is going to be attributed to the Nehru/Gandhi family, or Congress in general, then it is also a fact that most good things that have happened to India were also a result of the very same political entity, because Congress has been in charge for majority of post-Independence India.
over a period of 65 years... Give me a break, the concept of swaraj was the one which kept us the underdog for such a long term
 
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I was thinking what would had Sardar Patel said in 1971 if he was still alive - "VP i want East Pakistan, take Manekshaw with U" :lol:
 
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She screwed it in Shimla '72 , it was best time to solve many problems (p*k) .

Negative. There was a pact between USSR and US that India wouldn't attack west pakistan. Maybe that's why the western borders including kashmir was never redrawn..

For an Iron Lady like her, she would have surely annexed that part as well if there wouldn't have been any binding. ( The latter part I am not sure though ).
 
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I disgree here.

IG showed remarkable clear headedness in 71, a lesser person may not have gone the complete mile.

Sure , like all humans she had a failings too , she had too many Yes - men around her.

The book " Matters of Discretion' by IK Gujral is worth a read.


Plz, you take one instance in all these yrs of rule by their family? Indian democracy can be called a farce if dynasty politics exist liek this.
 
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Negative. There was a pact between USSR and US that India wouldn't attack west pakistan. Maybe that's why the western borders including kashmir was never redrawn..

For an Iron Lady like her, she would have surely annexed that part as well if there wouldn't have been any binding. ( The latter part I am not sure though ).
I read somewhere that there was nothing stopping her and that she was fooled by Bhutto. He argued that Pakistan will go into a chaos if he had to tell them that apart from BD even Kashmir was lost..
 
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Plz, you take one instance in all these yrs of rule by their family? Indian democracy can be called a farce if dynasty politics exist liek this.

At the cost of going off topic, why blame a family when we elect them ?

It is us who prop them up .

Next today any leader who has off spring wants to shore them - Mulayam - Akhilesh Yadav, Akali Dal, DMK.. they all are the same.
 
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At the cost of going off topic, why blame a family when we elect them ?

It is us who prop them up .

Next today any leader who has off spring wants to shore them - Mulayam - Akhilesh Yadav, Akali Dal, DMK.. they all are the same.
I'm not about the family and I certainly did not vote them into power.. This party which can coin a term called saffron terrorism deserves not a single vote from at least the billion people who know the realities..
 
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