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A Word from the Islamic Army
By Brian Conley and Muhammad Zaher

BAGHDAD, May 16 (IPS) - Call them terrorists, call them resistance fighters. A significant member of one such group spoke to IPS about why he joined.
Abu Ayoub, a 35-year-old living in Baghdad, is a member of the Islamic Army. He spoke to IPS in the Adhamiya neighbourhood.

"When the occupation forces entered Baghdad, they killed my brother in front of my eyes. He was wounded and bleeding but the occupation forces didn't allow me to save him. When I tried to save him they began shooting at me and after a few minutes my brother died. After that I swore to fight them to the death."

Many resistance groups have been identified since the beginning of the war in March 2003. They range from the well-known Ansar al-Sunna, first noticed in northern Iraq after its members fled Afghanistan, to smaller groups like the Revenge Brigade involved in the kidnapping of Jill Carroll, correspondent with the Christian Science Monitor..

"I think 80 percent are from the Islamic resistance, because Islam orders Muslims to fight against the enemy and against everyone who came to occupy our country," Ayoub said.

After his brother was killed, friends just came up to support him in his resistance fight, he said.
"At first I was fighting in a small group, because we didn't trust many people to join with us. But now, after three years fighting, we became part of Islamic Army. Now everything has become organised, we make good plans before any attack."

There are some groups, both Sunni and Shia, who believe the time for violent resistance has passed, Ayoub said. Sunni groups such as the Iraqi Accordance Front, the Iraqi Islamic Party and the Muslim Scholars Association seem to be pushing for a political process, and participated in the December elections.

But the Islamic Army will never negotiate with the United States or the Iraqi government, Abu Ayoub told IPS. He believes negotiators with the coalition and Iraqi government include only resistance fighters from the Ba'ath party.

"The Ba'ath resistance fight for Saddam, not for Islam or for Iraq. We are against this. They aren't representative of the Iraqi resistance."

Abu Ayoub believes that the occupation cannot be ended either by a political process or by other peaceful means. Only Iraqis fighting back can liberate Iraq, he says.

"The occupation forces will discover after this negotiation that nothing will change. The resistance will grow more and more till the end of occupation. They came by force, and they will never leave, except by force."

Ayoub said he is not allowed to say how he joined the Islamic Army. But he was willing to say a little about his organisation.
"The Islamic army is very big and we fight all over Iraq. We have groups everywhere in Iraq, but I have no connection with other groups. Only our leaders have connections between each other, this is for our security."

Abu Ayoub said that after he joined the Islamic Army it was much easier to receive support such as guns. He told IPS there are "special people" whose work it is to bring weapons. His duty is only to fight the enemy, he said.

When asked why he was fighting the U.S. forces, he said:
"I want you to ask this question to the U.S. forces, not to me. They came from the other side of the world and crossed the ocean to occupy my country. Bush and Blair lied to all the world when they spoke about weapons of mass destruction. All the world knew very well their governments were lying, but no country said 'no'. Most of the world supported them to occupy my country."

Ayoub dismisses claims by U.S. President George W. Bush parroted closely by British Prime Minister Tony Blair that their goal in Iraq is to establish democracy and liberate the Iraqi people.

"They don't have credibility, they came to Iraq for many reasons, to destroy Islam, steal oil, save the east front of Israel, control the Middle East and establish bases near Iran and Russia. I want to ask them, 'where is the democracy?' Three years of occupation and Iraqi condition is from bad to worse."

Ayoub is not just angry with the coalition forces. He believes it was wrong for Iraqis to join the new army or police force.

"They are not a real army like the Iraqi Army before the occupation. The occupation forces built this new army to protect them from resistance. I think any honest Iraqi should not join this fake army."

The army was acting against the people, he said.
"You can see what they did in Fallujah. They were like a hand of the occupation. They killed many innocent people there and they did that in many other cities in Iraq, like Ramadi, Tal Afar, Hit, Rawa and Haditha. Go there and see how many children, old men and women were killed by the Iraqi Army's hand."

Abu Ayoub believes the police should be called the militia.
"Ninety-five percent of them are Shia and work with the Badr militia, and they work for Iran's benefit. They killed many Sunni people just because they were Sunni, to create tensions between Sunni and Shia, and to make civil war after."

But Ayoub believes it is still not right to attack members of the Iraqi army and police. "First we must liberate Iraq from occupation forces and then we can judge each one of them who committed crimes."

There will be no civil war in Iraq if the occupation retreats, Abu Ayoub says. "We will control Iraq and push out all the militias and Iraqi politicians who came on American tanks. Then we will find many honest Iraqi politicians to lead Iraq. But for now you can see how the Iraqi people are between two hammers, the occupation and the militia -- or even the Iraqi government, because they support them." (END/2006)

IRAQ: A Word from the Islamic Army
 
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True! When a person loses all that he has loved he has no choice but to fight!!! America should withdraw from Iraq and insurgency will fade away!
 
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How sure are you? Iraq will face a dangerous civil war where the government will be strictly destabilized.
 
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USA has created a mess in iraq and they have to solve it. Saddam, whatever you might say about him, was a strong leader who held the country together. Now iraq is in a state of civil war and the americans are trapped in between.
 
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How sure are you? Iraq will face a dangerous civil war where the government will be strictly destabilized.

Actually you're right! Even if they leave the problems are not going to go away completely! But the thing is that their presence there is causing great resentment and suffering to the Iraqi people! People of Iraq are unhappy that Iraq was attacked and believe that the situation of Iraq would not be such if the Americans had left Iraq alone! They see U.S. as something worser than Saddam!

Look at the American soldiers in Iraq! They see Iraqi civilians as their enemies! There are so many videos aired showing American soldiers shooting at civilians and killing unnecessarily... perhaps if the Americans leave the people who are unhappy about these actions will quiten down. Perhaps that might be one of the ways to bring stability to the region! All else has failed!
 
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The only time the americans will leave is once they are sure that iraq has been split into three separate entities.
 
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Actually thats much supportive by the Jewish ideoligies. They know, when a muslim nation is split, it will not be united again.
 
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The 3 nations idea is the most viable one. Under Saddam, one of the groups dominated the others with an iron fist, so things were peaceful.

Now with Saddam gone, the groups are fighting it out for ideology, historical revenge, superiority in the region etc etc. The fighting will continue irrespective of whether the Americans are there.

However if the Americans leave now, Iraq will definitely be split. There is no question of it.

The only way IRaq will survive is if Shias and Sunnis and Kurds suddenly become practical people and decide to pursue material needs rather than ideological. Call me a cynic, but I don't see that happening anytime soon!!

I suppose the fighting will go on till the country is effectively cleaved into areas dominated by each of the 3 groups, then we shall see relative peace. And this too will take a long long time!!

Things are not looking up for Iraq at the moment!!:tdown:
 
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Funny! They claim to be fighting for Islam and yet they kill hundreds of Iraqi Muslim civilians with suicide bombings in public places and even Mosques. What these idiots don't realize is that if there were no militants and terrorist strikes in iraq the americans would have left long ago, after the fall of Saddam.
 
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Now with Saddam gone, the groups are fighting it out for ideology, historical revenge, superiority in the region etc etc. The fighting will continue irrespective of whether the Americans are there.

However if the Americans leave now, Iraq will definitely be split. There is no question of it.

Agreed

But its not that if US leave Iraq will split.
Rather it is planned by US long ago to split in three parts.
Now even if US leaves the mess she had created will continue to hunt Iraqis.

It is very unfortunate that due to policies of one Bush the American people as well as Muslims are sufferin in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Its a pitty that Bush Policy regarding Iraq will trun against US good people in shap of more strength to Iran which is most anti-US.
Its a pitty that US had sided with one faction in Iraq and even that faction is now turning its gunns towards US.
 
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Agreed

But its not that if US leave Iraq will split.
Rather it is planned by US long ago to split in three parts.
Now even if US leaves the mess she had created will continue to hunt Iraqis.

It is very unfortunate that due to policies of one Bush the American people as well as Muslims are sufferin in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Its a pitty that Bush Policy regarding Iraq will trun against US good people in shap of more strength to Iran which is most anti-US.
Its a pitty that US had sided with one faction in Iraq and even that faction is now turning its gunns towards US.

:lol: Really? You think George Bush and his cronies actually planned this whole 7 year journey out, ending in the splitting of Iraq? Unlikely. Highly unlikely.

A more likely scenario is that the americans simply did not anticipate the sort of deeply ingrained differences and enmity between the people of this nation!!
They though that the iraqis will welcome the liberators from Saddam's evil regime!!
Instead, they got a hostile population which hated each other and America at the same time.

Infact I think that between a repressive Saddamesque regime and 3 different countries, I would definitely prefer 3 different countries for Iraq as the most viable option!! Atleast it will keep the civilians from massacring each other over petty differences!

Dig a little deeper, and you will realize that Saddam was responsible for the hatred among Iraqis.


About Afghanistan, I actually happen to think that the US invasion was a good thing for Afghanistan. It got the Taliban out of power and gave the Afghans some hope to make things better.
However, the effect on Pakistan was very bad, as we can see...
 
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About Afghanistan, I actually happen to think that the US invasion was a good thing for Afghanistan. It got the Taliban out of power and gave the Afghans some hope to make things better.
However, the effect on Pakistan was very bad, as we can see...

Yeh it would be good thing for India that she had Northern Alliance in power but not for the Afghan people.
Look at the mess, the majority Pashtuns are kept away from power.

Poppy had witnessed a record high growth in the history of the world.
The criminal warlords had been imposed by invading US.

After such a long time since 2001 US attacks Afghan people are still to see any progress and development.
Thousands of Afghan Refugees still do not want to go back due to reason thers no living for them.
Majority of the Afghans realize there was peace during Taliban rule which is rare currently.

So what hope you are talking about for them.
{i do agree that some of the extreme acts by Taliban are condemnble, rest they were much better than the current mess in Afghanistan}

I will come back tommorrow to reply to Iraq split comment :)
 
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For god sakes the taliban regime was harbouring international terrorists.That's why they had to go.That's why NATO had to attack them. The current mess which you referred to is caused by your beloved Taliban themselves, not by the americans.
 
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Yeh it would be good thing for India that she had Northern Alliance in power but not for the Afghan people.
Look at the mess, the majority Pashtuns are kept away from power.

The Americans came and gave the Afghans a brilliant chance to establish a democracy. If the afghans failed to capitalize on the opportunity then who is to blame?

Poppy had witnessed a record high growth in the history of the world.
The criminal warlords had been imposed by invading US.

Lol....Poppy? Under the Taliban even Poppy...the only possible source of livelihood was banned!! Their farms were bare dear....they had nothing.
Taliban was the worst thing to happen to Afghanistan....and thanks to the US and NAlliance they are gone!!
If the Afghan leadership fails to rise to the challenge, we really can't do anything. The US can't force the Afghans to stop fighting and start nation-building. They will have to do it themselves.


After such a long time since 2001 US attacks Afghan people are still to see any progress and development.
Thousands of Afghan Refugees still do not want to go back due to reason thers no living for them.
Majority of the Afghans realize there was peace during Taliban rule which is rare currently.

The Afghan people need to develop themselves. They won't be "shown" any progress by the Americans. I think the Americans have done more than enough by demolishing the Taliban already!!

Lol..Peace during Taliban rule?? The peace was bought by making people live like animals!!
People were executed for things like showing you ankles and reading a book!! You must joking if you think that the taliban was better!!


So what hope you are talking about for them.
{i do agree that some of the extreme acts by Taliban are condemnble, rest they were much better than the current mess in Afghanistan}

Some acts? Dear the entire taliban regime was a disastrous thing!! They were a major source of terrorists for the world, they were terrorising their own people and treating them like sub-humans!!
The current "mess" as you call cannot be blamed on the US!! The US is merely fighting the remnants of the Taliban and Al-Qaida. It is now upto the people of Afghanistan to rise to the challenge and start building their nation's institutions.
 
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