A two-front threat emerging for Pakistan

[Hammy007]

On a lighter note,

Bakray ki amma kab tak khair manayegi?

jab tak ba.ap jinda hai

 

[karan.1970]

I couldn't care less if you don't trust them. Also, what neutral party do you suggest. Pretty much anyone involved in Afghanistan cannot be considered a neutral party. Those parties also run the UN. So that takes out UN as a neutral party. We have given evidence to the GoI, US government, CIA, and Afghan government. However, all these parties have interests at stake so they cannot be expected to acknowledge indian support for terrorism..

Also, like I said, not too long ago, india also accused Pakistan for terrorism and no one took it seriously. Because it was not in their interests. They only act when its in their interests. The states are not as friendly and nice as you think.

The basic flaw in your post is around sharing of proof of indian involvement. Your own ministers have flipped flopped on whether any proof has been shared.

Unlike that however, India is shared proof of involvement of Pakistani nationals in attacks in India and Pakistani govt has accepted those proofs about Attacks being launched by Pakistani NON STATE actors..

And every one in the world has taken India's claims seriously. Thats why Pakistani Organizations like LeT, JeM are not only banned by Pakistan but also by UN

 

[asq]

and replace them with Taliban>> It turned out they were worse.. Didnt it??


If you say so.. But excuse me for believing a survey of Afghan people(even if you say it was biased) over your analysis (which I know is biased)



Perhaps you havent heard of the saying..You reap what you sow...

Again u r talking out of ignorance dude. We did not sow it, Russians had no right to walk in Afghanistan. you were on the side of invadors and Pashtuns remember it.

Pashtuns have been fighting invadors for 5000 years. and they will continue to fight till their is a solution acceptable to all and is fair for all. It will be good to talk A.S.A.P as the war will not solve anything Dude.

The survay u r talking about is done by those who have no respect for Afghans and Pakistan and are fueling the fire by nagative acts to make it more volatile. It is not decent to feul the fire, it is good to negotiate and arrive at a solution that is just, and is acceptable to all. No one has walked away from Aghanistan as winner, history speaks volumes about it. dude.

We the Pakistani have had relations with Afhganis for atleast 1000 years when Aibak's Tughlaqs, Ghauris, ghaznzvi and Mughals came, but Indians have always tried to fight them, undermine them and tried to change them as they did in the case of Akbar. so go and read the history. But we are their cousins and that is why we have allowed 6 million to say in Pakistan. Dude.

The only thing we donot like Shararti people and who talk in inuendos and in riddles and we believe that ultimately truth will win dude.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

The basic flaw in your post is around sharing of proof of indian involvement. Your own ministers have flipped flopped on whether any proof has been shared.

Unlike that however, India is shared proof of involvement of Pakistani nationals in attacks in India and Pakistani govt has accepted those proofs about Attacks being launched by Pakistani NON STATE actors..

And every one in the world has taken India's claims seriously. Thats why Pakistani Organizations like LeT, JeM are not only banned by Pakistan but also by UN

You know , Its a saying that Dont neglect the truth on your way up coz it will return to haunt you on your way down . We did learned it ..!
Theres hardly anyone Impartial in the international community who would ignore the Indian claims . Its just your time ...nothing else !
Doesnt makes the truth, False and the False , truth..

 

[karan.1970]

Again u r talking out of ignorance dude. We did not sow it, Russians had no right to walk in Afghanistan. you were on the side of invadors and Pashtuns remember it.

Pashtuns have been fighting invadors for 5000 years. and they will continue to fight till their is a solution acceptable to all and is fair for all. It will be good to talk A.S.A.P as the war will not solve anything Dude.
The survay u r talking about is done by those who have no respect for Afghans and Pakistan and are fueling the fire by nagative acts to make it more volatile. It is not decent to feul the fire, it is good to negotiate and arrive at a solution that is just, and is acceptable to all. No one has walked away from Aghanistan as winner, history speaks volumes about it. dude.

We the Pakistani have had relations with Afhganis for atleast 1000 years when Aibak's Tughlaqs, Ghauris, ghaznzvi and Mughals came, but Indians have always tried to fight them, undermine them and tried to change them as they did in the case of Akbar. so go and read the history. But we are their cousins and that is why we have allowed 6 million to say in Pakistan. Dude.

The only thing we donot like Shararti people and who talk in inuendos and in riddles and we believe that ultimately truth will win dude.

Do not agree to any part of your post except the one in bold

 

[karan.1970]

You know , Its a saying that Dont neglect the truth on your way up coz it will return to haunt you on your way down . We did learned it ..!
Theres hardly anyone Impartial in the international community who would ignore the Indian claims . Its just your time ...nothing else !
Doesnt makes the truth, False and the False , truth..

can't argue with this. However I do honestly believe that India is not really fermenting terrorism in Pakistan

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

However I do honestly believe that India is not really fermenting terrorism in Pakistan

What makes your belife so firm ...! Both of our Countries have an ugly history

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

can't argue with this. However I do honestly believe that India is not really fermenting terrorism in Pakistan

I wish i everybody was like you GUM MUM BUK MUM SUM MUM.

 

[asq]

Do not agree to any part of your post except the one in bold

Typical Indian response. Denails, denails and more denails

 

[Gazzi]

This is why I say Pakistan needs to go for

This is a link ---------> http://www.defence.pk/forums/wmd-missiles/45300-missile-deterrent.html <------------- Link

 

[Moorkh]

Why does india have any interest in restricting afghan taliban? By its own admission, the militants attacking it are Pakistanis and not Afghans.

india has an interest in afganistan for its own selfish motives.

india has good relations with the current administration in afganistan. if the taliban take over india loses -
1) a market for indian goods
2) a probable ally/friend
3) a probable support in international forums


this being a defence forum, i dont blame you .

however military advantage isnt the only thing that a country pursues

 

[asq]

india has an interest in afganistan for its own selfish motives.

india has good relations with the current administration in afganistan. if the taliban take over india loses -
1) a market for indian goods
2) a probable ally/friend
3) a probable support in international forums


this being a defence forum, i dont blame you .

however military advantage isnt the only thing that a country pursues

1. As for as markets are concerned Afghani Markets are dismal at its best cause mostly things are smuggled in, so India when they talk about Afghani market they are not telling the truth. There is so much smuggling from Pakistan that there is shortage of sugar, meats and grains in Pakistan.

2. Afghanis were only friends to India for the wrong rerason as they believed that India will help them about Durand line which has become permanant since the indepandance as Pashtuns on this side of line voted to say in Pakistan, Inida should not indulge into this matter as it is between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Talking about an ally is a frace. Rael agenda is to create trouble between two Muslim countries.

3. support in international community wil be better achieved if it is based on real genuine help without pitching two neighbours against each other by double talk, when really it is about preparing a front against Pakistan.

So all what has been said by Mr. Moorkh is really is not true.

 

[karan.1970]

What makes your belife so firm ...! Both of our Countries have an ugly history

I dont say this becuase I believe that india is a saint. I say it simply because the risk reward ratio is extremely unfavourable. India does not stand to gain much from this exercise but the downside in terms of International credibility is immense.

Pakistan tried Khalistan and is trying Kashmir to avenge 1971. From an India's perspective they have seen that this terror strategy does not work very well thru the example of Pakistan and how its past strategies of nourishing these elements has become a headace for her..

Hence the belief..

 

[karan.1970]

I wish i everybody was like you GUM MUM BUK MUM SUM MUM.

Huh??? Translate please..Its a proverb i am not familiar with

 

[karan.1970]

Typical Indian response. Denails, denails and more denails

Lets not stereotype.. You may accuse me of denials, but generalizing the whole country?? Wouldn't be good if I say..
Typical Pakistani reponse.. Reject anything that doesn't fit their preconcieved notions??