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A Son of A Motherless Goat points at others for the Fresh Deaths in Balochistan

Problem is we need to do few things. First take war to LEJ and Daesh and TTP inside Afghanistan and also BLA and BRA. Secondly take war inside their master that is our 70 year old beloved enemy India. Until we make sure India bleeds on every second day they won't get the clear message until than. Finally we need to make these India and specially western funded liberals a part of history. We all know where these NGOs and other liberal scumbags get their dollars and bottles of wine from it's time zarb e azb is expanded to these western puppets also. @Irfan Baloch
I think we should initially concentrate our home ... Get rid of these scums and start working on our people ... Focus on india must be direct rather than indirect ...
 
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Simple. We are easy to blame excuse for all the failures of the region.

We can't protect our cities, blame pakistan.

We keep losing to the Taliban. Blame pakistan.

We surrender 3% of our territory in the last 8 months and have lost 37.5% in the last three months of our country to the terrorists. Ahh let's blame pakistan.

We have had 15000+ casualties with over 5500+ casualties of soldiers in the last 6 months and in the last two we have lost 2200+ men but blame pakistan.

We are corrupt. Blame pakistan.

We can't run the administration. Blame Pakistan.

We are not united. Blame pakistan.

The terrorists are coming to talks. Blame pakistan.


They are not coming to talks. Blame pakistan.

They are not officially declared terrorists. Blame pakistan.

You see we become the punching bag bcz this helps avoids serious accountability that needs to come by making Pakistan the bogeyman. Put all blame on Pakistan and hide your own failures.

This is so much more easier than to reflect on your own failures and try to point our counter measures for them to combat these failures.

The worst part is that we have many so called analysts who just simply loves to blame the army for every I'll.

In another thread there were C grade Nooners blaming a guy for simply saying that he wants martial law and criticized the govt right outside that shrine that was attacked. He has lost somebody and he is under emotions. He can say whatever he wants but no they lost their minds and showcased on full display their low class gutter mentality as well as their hatred for their own army quitely ignoring that the govt has a policy of hiding terrorists who harm the people. The sunni extremists that reside in Punjab aka the Punjabi Taliban.

Pakistan and pakistan army is the bogeyman for all the ills to avoid self accountability and hide corruption SNF incompetence and don't even get me started on the pseudo liberals.


If today Afghanistan is a hell hole and losing ground and allowing the Taliban to make billions yes billions from the opium's of uruzgan and Helmand and from the mines of badakshan then its bcz the ANA is highly incompetent, the US is not interested in peace and the govt is corrupt to the core. This is not our fault.
the Northern Alliance thugs kept assassinating the Afghan Taliban representatives that arrived in Pakistan to attend the peace talks and whenever Afghan Taliban called off the talks, Pakistan was blamed for the rise of violence and revenge attacks by Taliban on Kabul thugs
I always call them thugs because their top thug Gen Dostam is banned by Kabul's biggest ally America due to his abuse of human rights. the reason why he doesnt get much attention is that he doesnt support a beard on his face otherwise his brutality is no less than the Daesh or Afghan taliban.
interesting part is that no assassinations of these Afghan taliban take place in UAE and UAE is never blamed but when same guys come over to Pakistan for next round of talks they face the assassination attempts by those who are hell bent to show this as Pakistan's complicity in the Afghan taliban war on Kabul.
and the Americans have also started to follow this folly and decided that they will continue drone war and run the peace negotiations at the same time.. only to realise that this resulted in an endless spiral of violence with no results in their favour and Daesh quietly but surely established its foothold in Afghanistan.

now the same Pakistan haters think that like TTP, Daesh is also a useful tool against Pakistan and whenever it strikes inside Pakistan.. these scum will justify the attacks over Pakistan's policy (of looking after its interests.. wow what a shock.. your terrorist is not my terrorist but my terrorist must be your terrorist and you shouldnt spend time on those who are attacking you but those that dont attack you and are either hiding or coming to take part in peace talks.)

reason for this thread was my rage and disappointment over some apparently very smart and intelligent looking individuals who would comment very well over the security situation in the region but will seem to parrot a script whenever "asked" to comment over the causes of these attacks.

they will never say that these attacks are the result of the spillover from middle east sectarian/ religious war
or the war b y the opportunists in the religious grab who are benefiting due to the war on terror chaos and American invasion of Afghanistan
or point at countries that might be using these groups against Pakistan (in the same spirit Pakistan is blamed.. but no blame has to be one sided with unique set of rules).
 
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the Northern Alliance thugs kept assassinating the Afghan Taliban representatives that arrived in Pakistan to attend the peace talks and whenever Afghan Taliban called off the talks, Pakistan was blamed for the rise of violence and revenge attacks by Taliban on Kabul thugs
I always call them thugs because their top thug Gen Dostam is banned by Kabul's biggest ally America due to his abuse of human rights. the reason why he doesnt get much attention is that he doesnt support a beard on his face otherwise his brutality is no less than the Daesh or Afghan taliban.


The ANA and NDS have played a crucial part in delaying peace talks. They blame us but they were the ones that happily released that mullah omar is dead resulting in the breaking of the murree peace talks which would have surely ended the voilence we have witnessed in 2015 and 2016 in afghanistan.

You are absolutely right to call them thugs. A uniform doesnt change who you are. Reverse the situation and he would moving like the taliban. Dostum is war criminal who has wiped out villages of pashtuns and has perpetrated war crimes of henious nature. He and some in the ANA are no different than ISIS and taliban. They are all war lords. I am sure you must have read the accounts of american soldiers who watched as these ANA soldiers kept little boys chained to their beds for rape. How is this any different to the ISIS who buy women at their slave markets and keep them and rape them? Even USA couldn't support his visit and they are funding him and his force.

interesting part is that no assassinations of these Afghan taliban take place in UAE and UAE is never blamed but when same guys come over to Pakistan for next round of talks they face the assassination attempts by those who are hell bent to show this as Pakistan's complicity in the Afghan taliban war on Kabul.
and the Americans have also started to follow this folly and decided that they will continue drone war and run the peace negotiations at the same time.. only to realise that this resulted in an endless spiral of violence with no results in their favour and Daesh quietly but surely established its foothold in Afghanistan.

They are sitting at their offices in Qatar yet Qatar gets zero flak. We have afghans blaming us left and right yet Qatar has an office where their leadership not only resides but uses it as a platform to reach out to China and Russia and pakistan but nobody bats an eye. That's a damn government in exile!! Why doesnt afghanistan ask them to shut the office and hand them over but thats actually taking a positive step. They are only interested in pakistan. Since inception they were against us and 70 years later nothing has changed. They are still against us.

What i cannot understand is that afghanistan has a thousand issues ranging from sectarianism to extremism to extreme ethnicism yet they are obsessed with pakistan.

The americans droned the most pro peace taliban mansour. The new leadership is not interested and they are gaining ground. They will not be interested in talks. Just yesterday they bombed bagram where four americans died. They are targeting foreign forces and has anybody asked what mansour was doing in Iran. No. Nobody is interested there.

I am quite frankly convinced that america doesn't want peace. Since march the ANA has lost 3% territory and has suffered 15000+ casualties amongst which were 5500+ fatalities. 2200+ coming since august. This is not a game. You can't play experiment experiment . people are dying yet america continuous with this half passed policy. Either leave or bring more troops and retake the 38% lost territory.

They thought they could support TTP aka ISIS against us only to realize that these monsters can't be controlled and now they can't handle them. Its only after continous ISIS attacks that they have started to target them along with their allies TTP.

reason for this thread was my rage and disappointment over some apparently very smart and intelligent looking individuals who would comment very well over the security situation in the region but will seem to parrot a script whenever "asked" to comment over the causes of these attacks.


Understandable. As I said that its far easier to blame pakistan. You can be smart as hell but the prejudice and hatred cannot be combatted. Even on this thread you see one indian posting rubbish about false flag only to get self satisfaction, the other went into a ranting spree about Kashmir and betrayal and evil China. The third one about improvement was not bad from his point of view. Point is that we often make our minds set about things and don't change. Its the exact same thing here.

they will never say that these attacks are the result of the spillover from middle east sectarian/ religious war
or the war b y the opportunists in the religious grab who are benefiting due to the war on terror chaos and American invasion of Afghanistan
or point at countries that might be using these groups against Pakistan (in the same spirit Pakistan is blamed.. but no blame has to be one sided with unique set of rules).

If they say this then they won't be able to bash pakistan or pakistan army. They won't blame america who invaded Afghanistan disposing the Taliban and starting a 16 year war which has become a continuous of a 40 year war and the result is only deaths and deaths and more deaths yet nobody blames that super power.

They invade Iraq without any plan resulting in the madness of sectarian war ( what else did they expect. A civil war was of course going to happen. The sunni and shia and Kurds were going to fight especially with rivals like Iran, turkey and Arabs). Hundreds of thousands dying yet nobody blames them. Not learning anything that super power supported terrorists openly in the world!!! In Syria to dispose another regime and in Libya and now we have madmen slaughtering people everywhere and the middle east is burning and if you ask them and these analysts. They will say they are bringing peace.

Oh no. Their support is justified. Everybody can use and uses good and bad terrorists but we are blamed openly with such shameless hypocrisy that its nauseating.

The rules are so different that the English said that they will use nuclear bombs in time of defence and nobody even looked and when nisar said that and everybody was screaming and calling it irresponsible. The rules are always unique for us.
 
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Once you make peace with India, build our trust & trade, Afghanistan will slowly normalize its relation with Pakistan, followed by Iran & even America, the west & Middle East.




 
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Simple. We are easy to blame excuse for all the failures of the region.

We can't protect our cities, blame pakistan.

We keep losing to the Taliban. Blame pakistan.

We surrender 3% of our territory in the last 8 months and have lost 37.5% in the last three months of our country to the terrorists. Ahh let's blame pakistan.

We have had 15000+ casualties with over 5500+ casualties of soldiers in the last 6 months and in the last two we have lost 2200+ men but blame pakistan.

We are corrupt. Blame pakistan.

We can't run the administration. Blame Pakistan.

We are not united. Blame pakistan.

The terrorists are coming to talks. Blame pakistan.


They are not coming to talks. Blame pakistan.

They are not officially declared terrorists. Blame pakistan.

You see we become the punching bag bcz this helps avoids serious accountability that needs to come by making pakistan the bogeyman. Put all blame on pakistan and hide your own failures.

This is so much more easier than to reflect on your own failures and try to point our counter measures for them to combat these failures.

The worst part is that we have many so called analysts who just simply loves to blame the army for every I'll.

In another thread there were C grade Nooners blaming a guy for simply saying that he wants martial law and criticized the govt right outside that shrine that was attacked. He has lost somebody and he is under emotions. He can say whatever he wants but no they lost their minds and showcased on full display their low class gutter mentality as well as their hatred for their own army quitely ignoring that the govt has a policy of hiding terrorists who harm the people. The sunni extremists that reside in Punjab aka the Punjabi Taliban.

Pakistan and pakistan army is the bogeyman for all the ills to avoid self accountability and hide corruption SNF incompetence and don't even get me started on the pseudo liberals.


If today Afghanistan is a hell hole and losing ground and allowing the Taliban to make billions yes billions from the opium's of uruzgan and Helmand and from the mines of badakshan then its bcz the ANA is highly incompetent, the US is not interested in peace and the govt is corrupt to the core. This is not our fault.
You forgot even the earthquakes in the region are blamed on Pakistan by Afghans.
 
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I agree with you not less than 1000%...:)
Pakistan cannot take this war outside until she cleans out Mir Jafir and Mir Sadiq. I fear a stab in the back should Pakistan take the war outside and this will be a catastrophe. Learn from the German experience post WW I!

The ANA and NDS have played a crucial part in delaying peace talks. They blame us but they were the ones that happily released that mullah omar is dead resulting in the breaking of the murree peace talks which would have surely ended the voilence we have witnessed in 2015 and 2016 in afghanistan.

You are absolutely right to call them thugs. A uniform doesnt change who you are. Reverse the situation and he would moving like the taliban. Dostum is war criminal who has wiped out villages of pashtuns and has perpetrated war crimes of henious nature. He and some in the ANA are no different than ISIS and taliban. They are all war lords. I am sure you must have read the accounts of american soldiers who watched as these ANA soldiers kept little boys chained to their beds for rape. How is this any different to the ISIS who buy women at their slave markets and keep them and rape them? Even USA couldn't support his visit and they are funding him and his force.



They are sitting at their offices in Qatar yet Qatar gets zero flak. We have afghans blaming us left and right yet Qatar has an office where their leadership not only resides but uses it as a platform to reach out to China and Russia and pakistan but nobody bats an eye. That's a damn government in exile!! Why doesnt afghanistan ask them to shut the office and hand them over but thats actually taking a positive step. They are only interested in pakistan. Since inception they were against us and 70 years later nothing has changed. They are still against us.

What i cannot understand is that afghanistan has a thousand issues ranging from sectarianism to extremism to extreme ethnicism yet they are obsessed with pakistan.

The americans droned the most pro peace taliban mansour. The new leadership is not interested and they are gaining ground. They will not be interested in talks. Just yesterday they bombed bagram where four americans died. They are targeting foreign forces and has anybody asked what mansour was doing in Iran. No. Nobody is interested there.

I am quite frankly convinced that america doesn't want peace. Since march the ANA has lost 3% territory and has suffered 15000+ casualties amongst which were 5500+ fatalities. 2200+ coming since august. This is not a game. You can't play experiment experiment . people are dying yet america continuous with this half passed policy. Either leave or bring more troops and retake the 38% lost territory.

They thought they could support TTP aka ISIS against us only to realize that these monsters can't be controlled and now they can't handle them. Its only after continous ISIS attacks that they have started to target them along with their allies TTP.




Understandable. As I said that its far easier to blame pakistan. You can be smart as hell but the prejudice and hatred cannot be combatted. Even on this thread you see one indian posting rubbish about false flag only to get self satisfaction, the other went into a ranting spree about Kashmir and betrayal and evil China. The third one about improvement was not bad from his point of view. Point is that we often make our minds set about things and don't change. Its the exact same thing here.



If they say this then they won't be able to bash pakistan or pakistan army. They won't blame america who invaded Afghanistan disposing the Taliban and starting a 16 year war which has become a continuous of a 40 year war and the result is only deaths and deaths and more deaths yet nobody blames that super power.

They invade Iraq without any plan resulting in the madness of sectarian war ( what else did they expect. A civil war was of course going to happen. The sunni and shia and Kurds were going to fight especially with rivals like Iran, turkey and Arabs). Hundreds of thousands dying yet nobody blames them. Not learning anything that super power supported terrorists openly in the world!!! In Syria to dispose another regime and in Libya and now we have madmen slaughtering people everywhere and the middle east is burning and if you ask them and these analysts. They will say they are bringing peace.

Oh no. Their support is justified. Everybody can use and uses good and bad terrorists but we are blamed openly with such shameless hypocrisy that its nauseating.

The rules are so different that the English said that they will use nuclear bombs in time of defence and nobody even looked and when nisar said that and everybody was screaming and calling it irresponsible. The rules are always unique for us.
NATO invaded Afghanistan not for peace and stability but for war and mischief.

1. Destabilize Pakistan.
2. Contain China.
3. Contain Russia.


 
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Pakistan cannot take this war outside until she cleans out Mir Jafir and Mir Sadiq. I fear a stab in the back should Pakistan take the war outside and this will be a catastrophe. Learn from the German experience post WW I!
I partially agree with you in that we should first get rid of all the traitors on urgent basis especially the ones' perched atop. But until we don't go out after the source either overtly or covertly depending on what's the suitable, it won't solve the problem and our country is under attack. Germany's example is wrong in this context as we are not talking about opening war on all the fronts and against all the nations simultaneously. Hitler's push was based on racial supremacy and expansionist desires...we clearly don't have any... and despite being technically superior to its adversaries, Germans lacked the nukes which we have ...Had he any..we would have been living in vastly different world today.
 
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I partially agree with you in that we should first get rid of all the traitors on urgent basis especially the one sitting on the top. But until we don't go out after the source either overtly or covertly depending on what's the suitable, it won't solve the problem and our country in under attack. Germany's example is wrong in this context as we have not talking about opening war against on all fronts and against all the nations simultaneously. Hitler's push was based on racial supremacy and expansionist desires...we clearly don't have any... and despite being technically superior to its adversaries, German lack the nukes which we have ...Had he any..we would have been living in vastly different world today.
I am talking about German experience in World War ONE. Germany faced at least a two front war. Pakistan also the same even more (given asymmetric warfare nowadays). Germany surrended in November 1918 when not ONE SINGLE INCH of German soil was occupied by foreign hosts. She surrendered with such humiliating terms when not one single foreign soldier had entered German territory! This was due to traitors from within. This was the only way! The so called "November Criminals". This is in complete distinction to WW II, where Germany literally fought to the last bullet and then surrendered unconditionally when the whole of Germany was occupied.

Should Pakistan engage in going after the source of Khawarij terrorists, this will lead to a conventional two front war (plus the multi-dimensional asymmetric war that is now ongoing) and with Mir Jafir and Mir Sadiq still roaming free it will be risky....(even though Pakistan has nukes)..very risky.
 
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I am talking about German experience in World War ONE. Germany faced at least a two front war. Pakistan also the same even more (given asymmetric warfare nowadays). Germany surrended in November 1918 when not ONE SINGLE INCH of German soil was occupied by foreign hosts. She surrendered with such humiliating terms when not one single foreign soldier had entered German territory! This was due to traitors from within. This was the only way! The so called "November Criminals". This is in complete distinction to WW II, where Germany literally fought to the last bullet and then surrendered unconditionally when the whole of Germany was occupied.

Should Pakistan engage in going after the source of Khawarij terrorists, this will lead to a conventional two front war (plus the multi-dimensional asymmetric war that is now ongoing) and with Mir Jafir and Mir Sadiq still roaming free it will be risky....(even though Pakistan has nukes)..very risky.
Yeah so we address this concern by taking about the traitors..The traitors are very open ..like NS and his cronies and after the Dawn-leaks, shouldn't the army take action against them? What we as people of Pakistan are witnessing is total inaction from the military establishment on this issue other than some political and verbose statements by ISPR at the end of monthly meetings of corps commanders at GHQ. They have the army act / official act that allows the army to take action if the national security has been breached and ISPR has already declared it as a national security breach but they are not acting and that is beyond me since I don't see any excuse for them not to act against these traitors ... and this lends credibility to such theories as NRO2. Because if they don't act against the traitors today, the history will remember them as traitors too and all the this tactical battle gain will be ignored since winning a few battles does not matter when you have lost the war.
 
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So I came across this unknown character. Taha Sadique

an English version of a French News Channel asked him to explain further about the cause of these recent attacks in and around Quetta pointing at the attacks on the Lawyers police academy and attack on this shrine.

the last two attacks had been already claimed by Islamic state but Taha Sadique went in a trance and recited a well trodden line..

"it is because of Pakistan military's policy of good and bad Taliban where it only fights those that are fighting the state of Pakistan which doesn't please Afghanistan (and its allies) so these attacks are the results of this policy....


what is that son of a motherless goat talking about I wondered?


  • is TTP/ Daesh not attacking Pakistani civilians & army?
  • so why is he criticising Pakistan army for fighting TTP & Daesh?
  • are Afghan Taliban attacking Pakistani people and Pakistan army? if so when did they?
  • why is he criticising Pakistan army for only focusing on those that are hurting Pakistan?
  • by terming these attacks as a consequence ...is he implying that Afghan government and its guests punishing Pakistan?
  • is he indirectly justifying these attacks by Daesh because Pakistan army is not fighting Afghan Taliban and instead facilitating its leadership with the peace dialogue?
  • or this brain dead heir to the goat herd just implying that Pakistan army is willingly allowing Afghan taliban to attack it and its people? (despite the fact that all attacks are either claimed by BLA, TTP or Daesh/ LeJ?).


why the same laws dont apply on Afghan thugs in Kabul? why is it ok if they let the BLA thrive? why is it ok that their guests along with their extended family are running the camps against Pakistan?

and then again, I wonder.. if all this sarcasm and talk is just a smoke screen. .. the punishment of Pakistan is regardless of the alleged Pakistan's policy towards Afghan taliban. perhaps the violence in Pakistan suits some powers and this good bad jibe is just a happy coincidence.

no where in the world.. a country and its security forces have been criticised for fighting ONLY the enemy that threatens it and fights it. but rules are different for Pakistan.
Tarek Fateh, Hussain Haqqani and Asma Jehangir are far worse.
 
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So I came across this unknown character. Taha Sadique

an English version of a French News Channel asked him to explain further about the cause of these recent attacks in and around Quetta pointing at the attacks on the Lawyers police academy and attack on this shrine.

the last two attacks had been already claimed by Islamic state but Taha Sadique went in a trance and recited a well trodden line..

"it is because of Pakistan military's policy of good and bad Taliban where it only fights those that are fighting the state of Pakistan which doesn't please Afghanistan (and its allies) so these attacks are the results of this policy....


what is that son of a motherless goat talking about I wondered?


  • is TTP/ Daesh not attacking Pakistani civilians & army?
  • so why is he criticising Pakistan army for fighting TTP & Daesh?
  • are Afghan Taliban attacking Pakistani people and Pakistan army? if so when did they?
  • why is he criticising Pakistan army for only focusing on those that are hurting Pakistan?
  • by terming these attacks as a consequence ...is he implying that Afghan government and its guests punishing Pakistan?
  • is he indirectly justifying these attacks by Daesh because Pakistan army is not fighting Afghan Taliban and instead facilitating its leadership with the peace dialogue?
  • or this brain dead heir to the goat herd just implying that Pakistan army is willingly allowing Afghan taliban to attack it and its people? (despite the fact that all attacks are either claimed by BLA, TTP or Daesh/ LeJ?).


why the same laws dont apply on Afghan thugs in Kabul? why is it ok if they let the BLA thrive? why is it ok that their guests along with their extended family are running the camps against Pakistan?

and then again, I wonder.. if all this sarcasm and talk is just a smoke screen. .. the punishment of Pakistan is regardless of the alleged Pakistan's policy towards Afghan taliban. perhaps the violence in Pakistan suits some powers and this good bad jibe is just a happy coincidence.

no where in the world.. a country and its security forces have been criticised for fighting ONLY the enemy that threatens it and fights it. but rules are different for Pakistan.


LoL Brilliant movie, Classic quote, even for modeee.
 
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Tarek Fateh, Hussain Haqqani and Asma Jehangir are far worse.

I have no idea why this guy gets associated with pakistan. He says he is not a Pakistani but an Indian and quite openly states he has no links to pakistan or Islam. Many Indians say Pakistani analysts, he is not. He states he is Indian analysts living in Canada.
 
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Miyan zuban pe aapna lagam do...You people have been trying to bleed India for more than 3 decades now, what happened? Just admit we are better altogether, You can not beat us neither in a direct war nor proxy. Mumbai 2008 actually made us stonecold and caused a paradigm shift in our policy. Every terror incident in India will be replied with at least two in Pak.

Good luck trying to bleed us every second, we will make sure you bleed every nano second


Good luck to you as well, Khud ka ghar samhalta hai nahi aa gaye naga leaders ko arms dene :lol:
The wounds you have give to us by paying and funding and protecting and training groups like TTP and BLA and BRA and LEJ we would pay them back with interest and we would strike back you just wait and watch you would see it soon. @Prince of Dorne
 
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The wounds you have give to us by paying and funding and protecting and training groups like TTP and BLA and BRA and LEJ we would pay them back with interest and we would strike back you just wait and watch you would see it soon. @Prince of Dorne
what evidence is there of India 'protecting and training' these jihadi groups ? TTP, LEJ and all the rest are Pakistani organizations, staffed and run by Pakistani citizens, the funding for a lot of it probably coming from Saudia, whose ideology they follow.
 
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what evidence is there of India 'protecting and training' these jihadi groups ? TTP, LEJ and all the rest are Pakistani organizations, staffed and run by Pakistani citizens, the funding for a lot of it probably coming from Saudia, whose ideology they follow.
Your Kalbuhsan is the biggest evidence many of LEJ and TTP thugs were killed in Baluchistan after he spilled the beans. He is speaking like a parrot these days and we have managed to destroy most of your network in Baluchistan but Afghanistan is where they are hiding and you are training and protecting them soon we would return the favor
 
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