A rare honour killing: Pak woman guns down husband for sexually abusing daughter-in-law

[Divergent]

So lemme question your judgement for a moment -- based upon your own criterion for journalists.

Facts- Do you think that we should trust the story of a criminal whose looking at life in jail if it's not established that she was the aggrieved party? (i.e. her personal interest is to establish that she was the victim/ helping the victim)
Sources- Who are the sources of these claims. Ofcourse the perpetrators themselves. The only other claim is that of the police, which only established the murder.
Verification- How can you take the claim as 'verified' by the writer who literally is reporting the narrative of the perpetrators?

Yet what we see is that posters like yourself are quick to judgement where you literally take the narrative of the perpetrators and run with it like its the truth e.g. you yourself said that the

• (mother in law) SAVED the (daughter in law)
• The "killed" is not the victim
• The perpetrators were doing it as a defense mechanism and that it's not a murder but a manslaughter.

Again, this is not a "good journalist" establishing the facts of the case by doing some undercover investigation. He or she is simply reporting the narrative taken by the perpetrators which we're accepting as the truth because the perpetrator is a female. (hence a comparison is also justified in terms of men vs women)

If you have issues with the article - why not contact the writer directly? As far as I'm concerned my statement stays as it is - if this is true - then its unacceptable and wrong. Commentary wasn't based upon the validation of the article but the article at face value. There's absolutely nothing imprecise on what I stated.

All articles are usually based on the following Who, What, Where, When, Why and How?

Your conclusions are drawn upon doubtful validation of this article - mine are at face value. As aforementioned, this isn't a case of 'men vs women' its a case of a woman killing her husband because he carried out inappropriate acts with their daughter in law. Its a very basic common sensual view to oppose such actions, justification wasn't carried out accepting the 'act' of the accused either.

Further to that I refuse to acknowledge this as 'honour killing' not on the basis on gender of the one murdered - it is a complete cipher but due to the fact that Honour killing is a willing act of which an innocent whose not caused any 'physical' harm to the family but only 'reputational' according to their 'beliefs' or 'cultural norms' . This was murder committed on the basis of a 'criminal activity' committed by the perpetrator such as sexual abuse.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Good Work

 

[abdulbarijan]

If you have issues with the article - why not contact the writer directly? As far as I'm concerned my statement stays as it is - if this is true - then its unacceptable and wrong. Commentary wasn't based upon the validation of the article but the article at face value. There's absolutely nothing imprecise on what I stated.

All articles are usually based on the following Who, What, Where, When, Why and How?

Your conclusions are drawn upon doubtful validation of this article - mine are at face value. As aforementioned, this isn't a case of 'men vs women' its a case of a woman killing her husband because he carried out inappropriate acts with their daughter in law. Its a very basic common sensual view to oppose such actions, justification wasn't carried out accepting the 'act' of the accused either.

Further to that I refuse to acknowledge this as 'honour killing' not on the basis on gender of the one murdered - it is a complete cipher but due to the fact that Honour killing is a willing act of which an innocent whose not caused any 'physical' harm to the family but only 'reputational' according to their 'beliefs' or 'cultural norms' . This was murder committed on the basis of a 'criminal activity' committed by the perpetrator such as sexual abuse.

Saying the same thing over again, doesn't make it anymore sound in reasoning paa ji You've said repeatedly that your taking the article on face value. I get that.

But I'm just contesting that decision of yours of taking this article at face value. I'm saying that I expect better judgement from level headed people like yourself, then to take the narrative of the criminal at face value and accept it as the truth, because that is exactly what the article is reporting.

 

[Divergent]

Saying the same thing over again, doesn't make it anymore sound in reasoning paa ji You've said repeatedly that your taking the article on face value. I'm just contesting that decision alone. I'm saying that I expect better judgement from level headed people like yourself, then to take the narrative of the criminal at face value and accept it as the truth, because that is exactly what the article is reporting.

I am a level headed person indeed. So you're opposing my views on the article not because I took it at face value but because I didn't question it? Even though I've mentioned I took it for it was? Bruh!

 

[abdulbarijan]

I am a level headed person indeed.

Ohhh well, I'm beginning to question that now

So you're opposing my views on the article not because I took it at face value but because I didn't question it? Even though I've mentioned I took it for it was? Bruh!

Cmon, don't hide behind/sugar coat the situation by saying you were "taking the article" at face value, let's call it what it is, your taking the criminal's narrative at face value.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Cmon, don't hide behind/sugar coat the situation by saying you were "taking the article" at face value, let's call it what it is, your taking the criminal's narrative at face value.

Perhaps the wife got angry that her husband lied about complimenting her culinary abilities?

 

[El Sidd]

How is it termed honor killing?

People are fast losing patience with authorities to provide them justice and how on earth this got escalated or was allowed to and how on earth a chatterbox like in Pakistan community failed to act?

The local police department should be questioned and disciplined before anything.

A mother's wrath is quite fearless.

 

[Safriz]

Good riddance.
Rot in he'll.

 

[abdulbarijan]

Perhaps the wife got angry that her husband lied about complimenting her culinary abilities?

Sure, let's accept the claims of ..... literally the criminal who committed murder ... and treat her story as the unbiased truth, since after all, an individual looking at life in prison has NO REASON WHATSOEVER, to present a story in such a fashion which makes her out to be 'the good person who was just aiding the alleged victim' .... @SMC

 

[Well.wisher]

Superb !!

I wholeheartedly congratulate the murder of this pig .
Brave lady , we need more ladies like her . No need to bear this all crap .
Unfortunately, many cases such as this exist in our soceity but women being weak here couldn't do anything .
All women should have practise of guns so that to deal with such monsters

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Sure, let's accept the claims of ..... literally the criminal who committed murder ... and treat her story as the unbiased truth, since after all, an individual looking at life in prison has NO REASON WHATSOEVER, to present a story in such a fashion which makes her out to be 'the good person who was just aiding the alleged victim' .... @SMC

How many times have we accepted the word of criminals before confirmation from the families of the victims or police?

Continuation: What was the wife going to do?

Get a divorce because her husband favored his daughter in law over her? And actual took advantage of his position while his son was on duty?

On one side she'd have been a divorcee. Stigma.

On the other she killed her husband. Stigma's on both sides which do you prefer?

Anyways, all of what the wife says can easily be collaborated or disproved by the daughter in law her husband.

Lets say this is true. How much shame should be with the soldier that he pimped out his wife? To the point where the mother had to grow balls to take care of a situation he should have day 1.

 

[El Sidd]

Superb !!

I wholeheartedly congratulate the murder of this pig .
Brave lady , we need more ladies like her . No need to bear this all crap .
Unfortunately, many cases such as this exist in our soceity but women being weak here couldn't do anything .
All women should have practise of guns so that to deal with such monsters

Rozay lag rahe hain?

If needs be ofcourse they should. But if there is good governance and basic human rights law implemented there shall not rise such a need.

Education and trusting the law and not the social stigma may help with that.

 

[Well.wisher]

Rozay lag rahe hain?

If needs be ofcourse they should. But if there is good governance and basic human rights law implemented there shall not rise such a need.

Education and trusting the law and not the social stigma may help with that.

.
Till law becomes strong , normal vulnerable people of this soceity should learn how to defend themselves and their relatives
.

 

[El Sidd]

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Till law becomes strong , normal vulnerable people of this soceity should learn how to defend themselves and their relatives
.

Self defense classes should be offered as sports in schools and colleges. That was proposed long time ago.

But women should be more proactive since the male dominated society and 'traditional' bias will make it harder for men to change that.

We are all to blame equally i think

 

[Well.wisher]

Self defense classes should be offered as sports in schools and colleges. That was proposed long time ago.

But women should be more proactive since the male dominated society and 'traditional' bias will make it harder for men to change that.

We are all to blame equally i think

Right .
Male dominance is not always beneficial .
Half of our population is female and females should be held equal and given equal jobs and opportunities as men .
I'm glad situation is improving and women are much participating than past .