A Muslim Mosque can be demolished, but not a Hindu temple: Modi's close aide Subramanian Swamy

[hussain0216]

Mosques exists today at places where there were temples before which were destroyed to build these mosques.

Hindus have been very considerate in this matter towards Muslims.

Hindus do not accuse or hold the current generation Muslims responsible for the crimes committed by the erstwhile tyrant Islamic rulers of India. Your sweeter than honey buddy keeps asking the current generation Japanese to apologize. Is that acceptable? Are Hindus asking current generation Muslims to apologize for all the historic crimes commited by the erst while tyrant Islamic rulers? No

Hindus are simply asking the mosques to be moved to a separate place so that the destroyed temples could be rebuilt to their original glory. If Nubian monuments could be moved, moving these mosques to an alternate location is not a big deal.

And Pakistanis need not shed any crocodile tears for the Indian Muslims. Will Pakistan accept Indian Muslims if they plan to migrate today? The answer is a big no. All you want to do was to score points against Indian Muslims or incite them to take up violence while you sit happily in your home and watch the fun the on TV.

The hindus can ask but the muslim response is simply no!!!

Mosques for worship of the one true God are more important than some temple and worship of idols, its that simple

Its best you just move your temple or better still, abandon idol worship altogether,

Pakistan is for Pakistanis, indian muslims had their chance, now its up to them to fight for Partition and a safe homeland for them to live, Pakistani's simply support thrm in this endeavour and seek to point out to them that we were right all along about hindus and a alleged secular india

 

[StraightShooter]

Lolz so only hindus have the rights in india to demolished mosque while Muslims cant do the same in return ?
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Thanks for agreeing with this thread.

I acknowledge you are intelligent but let not obfuscate the issue at hand.

Hindus have a reason for requesting Mosques to be relocated. I asked for the reason why temples need to be relocated?

Cross posting the below from earlier post for elaboration.

Mosques exists today at places where there were temples before which were destroyed to build these mosques.

Hindus have been very considerate in this matter towards Muslims.

Hindus do not accuse or hold the current generation Muslims responsible for the crimes committed by the erstwhile tyrant Islamic rulers of India. Your sweeter than honey buddy keeps asking the current generation Japanese to apologize. Is that acceptable? Are Hindus asking current generation Muslims to apologize for all the historic crimes commited by the erst while tyrant Islamic rulers? No

Hindus are simply asking the mosques to be moved to a separate place so that the destroyed temples could be rebuilt to their original glory. If Nubian monuments could be moved, moving these mosques to an alternate location is not a big deal.

And Pakistanis need not shed any crocodile tears for the Indian Muslims. Will Pakistan accept Indian Muslims if they plan to migrate today? The answer is a big no. All you want to do was to score points against Indian Muslims or incite them to take up violence while you sit happily in your home and watch the fun the on TV.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/a-mu...subramanian-swamy.485743/page-13#post-9337264

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Is your post why you hindus are so concerned about love jihad in India?

I just wanted to show that most successful Muslims want to get assimilated within India. India is developing and they want a stake. When British started Banaras Hindu University it changed the destiny of sub-continent.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

I acknowledge you are intelligent but let not obfuscate the issue at hand.

Hindus have a reason for requesting Mosques to be relocated. I asked for the reason why temples need to be relocated?

Cross posting the below from earlier post for elaboration.

Mosques exists today at places where there were temples before which were destroyed to build these mosques.

Hindus have been very considerate in this matter towards Muslims.

Hindus do not accuse or hold the current generation Muslims responsible for the crimes committed by the erstwhile tyrant Islamic rulers of India. Your sweeter than honey buddy keeps asking the current generation Japanese to apologize. Is that acceptable? Are Hindus asking current generation Muslims to apologize for all the historic crimes commited by the erst while tyrant Islamic rulers? No

Hindus are simply asking the mosques to be moved to a separate place so that the destroyed temples could be rebuilt to their original glory. If Nubian monuments could be moved, moving these mosques to an alternate location is not a big deal.

And Pakistanis need not shed any crocodile tears for the Indian Muslims. Will Pakistan accept Indian Muslims if they plan to migrate today? The answer is a big no. All you want to do was to score points against Indian Muslims or incite them to take up violence while you sit happily in your home and watch the fun the on TV.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/a-mu...subramanian-swamy.485743/page-13#post-9337264

if hindus had reason to relocate it . they should go to courts etc to do it legally rather then attacking it . are they allowed to do anything by themselves? What next ? Taj mahel?

 

[StraightShooter]

The hindus can ask but the muslim response is simply no!!!

Mosques for worship of the one true God are more important than some temple and worship of idols, its that simple

Its best you just move your temple or better still, abandon idol worship altogether,

Pakistan is for Pakistanis, indian muslims had their chance, now its up to them to fight for Partition and a safe homeland for them to live, Pakistani's simply support thrm in this endeavour and seek to point out to them that we were right all along about hindus and a alleged secular india

Why can't the mosques be moved? What is the reason to say No?

I want to hear the responses from the Indian Muslims than Pakistanis whose views are biased and who have no stake in this matter.

if hindus had reason to relocate it . they should go to courts etc to do it legally rather then attacking it . are they allowed to do anything by themselves? What next ? Taj mahel?

I agree. Unilateral demolition of Babri mosque was a grave and unacceptable act. It should have been and it should be based on concensus and as a joint effort between both Hindus and Muslims.

Muslims should show big heart in this matter and it would go a long way in healing the wounds between the communities.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

I agree. Unilateral demolition of Babri mosque was a grave and unacceptable act. It should have been and it should be based on concensus and as a joint effort between both Hindus and Muslims.

Muslims should show big heart in this matter and it would go a long way in healing the wounds between the communities.

Stleast you agreed that was a criminal move . anyone who involved in demolition face trail?
Will shiv sena got convicted for her part in riots ?
i think partial justice is reason why indian Muslims dont trust their government

 

[DineshS]

I agree. Unilateral demolition of Babri mosque was a grave and unacceptable act. It should have been and it should be based on concensus and as a joint effort between both Hindus and Muslims.

I don't agree.

The opposition to give our temples back to us is grave. They won't hand over OUR property....When everything fails, demolition happens...
We need to reclaim every temple we lost, if necessary by any means.

 

[StraightShooter]

I don't agree.

The opposition to give our temples back to us is grave. They won't hand over OUR property....When everything fails, demolition happens...
We need to reclaim every temple we lost, if necessary by any means.

We have to try negotiations. Supreme court has also advised the same.

We are not talking about Babri Masjid- Ram Temple alone here.

There are hundreds of temples that need to be rebuilt. The authors of the below books have done splendid job in detailing them. The books provides complete references made in the literature of Arabs, Turks and other rulers who did not mince words in declaring which temples were destroyed.

Hindus and Muslims should take this list as the scope and work on how and where the mosques could be relocated before the temples are rebuilt.

Peace needs to be provided an opportunity.

Hindu Temples: What Happened to Them : (A Preliminary Survey) V1 Paperback – December 1, 1990
by Arun Shourie (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Hindu-Temples-Happened-Preliminary-Survey/dp/9991129200


Hindu Temples What Happened to Them Volume II The Islamic Evidence Paperback – December 31, 2009
by Sita Ram Goel (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/8185990034

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

There is no democracy in India.. now with Fake EVM anyone can be appointed... and any illegal rule can be implemented...

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Videos show how well they were protected.

70 years+ and still growing..We are talking about muslim population in India. Unlike declining Hindu population in pakistan.

 

[DineshS]

Unlike declining Hindu population in pakistan.

Hindus have become endangered species in "some" parts of the world and in some parts of India as well...

 

[Tshering22]

Your gutless, and you think harassing your vastly outnumbered and unarmed muslim population is an act of hindutva courage?

The same goes for Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists in your country too.... Oh wait! There are no Buddhists left in your country.

Remind me again how you fought man to man, honouring the ancient warrior codes and all.

The point is, we should have had a clear exchange of population. It would have kept both of us happy.

You would be safe in your country and we would be in ours.

This European concept of apologetic intellectual secularism screwed it bad for both of us.

 

[MIR RAZA HUSSAIN]

he is just saying this to please his party and his community demolishing any religion's worship place is not good thing any where in world every country has to protect rights of minorities and they do protect it and their are places of worship for minorities in every country but in india its like they don't know what is rights of minorities

 

[hussain0216]

Why can't the mosques be moved? What is the reason to say No?

I want to hear the responses from the Indian Muslims than Pakistanis whose views are biased and who have no stake in this matter.



I agree. Unilateral demolition of Babri mosque was a grave and unacceptable act. It should have been and it should be based on concensus and as a joint effort between both Hindus and Muslims.

Muslims should show big heart in this matter and it would go a long way in healing the wounds between the communities.

A couple of reasons,

We fundamentally disagree with the clownish list of hindutva authored destroyed temples

A mosque is a house of worship to God, to desecrate it for idol housing temples is an abomination

There is also the concept of give an inch and they will take a mile.
To fail to oppose the Hindutva agenda of destroying Mosques to replace them with temples is a slippery slope, where it will start with one temple but then snowball into calls for destruction of mosques left, right and centre with the most flimsy of excuses used.
It will however not stop at Mosques, what the muslim community eats, how they live, marry, divorce will all be attacked

For the muslim community in India the stand has to be made NOW!!!!

India is sliding towards being a hindu banana republic but its not fully gone yet
In the meantime the muslim community must ensure that they make the case that the birth of an imaginary giant blue god did not occur, the Mosque was standing, it was attacked by hindu extremists and destroyed.
The Muslim community tgus expects the secular indian state to help rebuild the mosque as a message to extremists

The same goes for Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists in your country too.... Oh wait! There are no Buddhists left in your country.

Remind me again how you fought man to man, honouring the ancient warrior codes and all.

The point is, we should have had a clear exchange of population. It would have kept both of us happy.

You would be safe in your country and we would be in ours.

This European concept of apologetic intellectual secularism screwed it bad for both of us.

Shoulda woulda coulda buddy

 

[Levina]

India is sliding towards being a hindu banana republic but its not fully gone yet
In the meantime the muslim community must ensure that they make the case that the birth of an imaginary giant blue god did not occur, the Mosque was standing, it was attacked by hindu extremists and destroyed.
The Muslim community tgus expects the secular indian state to help rebuild the mosque as a message to extremists

Glad that you have not mentioned beef in your post today.