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A great wall of paranoia
Zorawar Daulet Singh
MAY 18, 2017 00:02 IST
As China pushes ahead with B&RI, India must reconcile geopolitical interests with wider developmental goals
In a consequential development over the past week, India decided to stake out a clear position of defiance against the Belt & Road Initiative (B&RI), an ambitious Chinese idea that seeks to reshape the Eurasian geo-economic space. India’s absence in Beijing’s high-profile summit with representatives from over 100 countries, including 29 heads of state, has evoked surprise and debate. What is the calculus driving India’s China policy? Does India risk isolation as Eurasia moves towards a new chapter of connectivity and interdependence?

Delhi’s position can be clearly gauged from the Ministry of External Affairs’ May 13 statement. The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a flagship project of the B&RI, is seen as a blatant disregard for India’s position on Jammu and Kashmir because it passes through Azad Kashmir. But Delhi’s protest goes beyond the “core concerns” over sovereignty. The objection to the B&RI is actually more deep-rooted, namely, that China’s rise and projection of geo-economic influence is a direct challenge and threat to India’s great power aspirations and traditional position in the subcontinent.

One influential strand of Indian thinking is that unless and until India develops its own regional connectivity plans and economic capacities at home, there can be no serious engagement with Chinese-sponsored projects. Any premature engagement is likely to entrap India and stunt its rise. An alternative view is that India’s rise itself needs engagement and connections with the wider Asian and Eurasian economies, especially in the post-2008 crisis world which has reduced the viability of the previous liberalisation model of drawing in western capital and basing India’s growth on a handful of service sectors linked to the West. In these changed circumstances, the B&RI is seen to provide an alternative source of finance capital and manufacturing opportunities to buttress India’s economy.

The first view is based on an image of intense competition and rivalry and leaves little room for collaboration. The second competing view is based on an image of interdependence where the idea of growth and development cannot occur in isolation from the world’s second-largest economy. Both world views have some merit. The problem really lies in India’s inability to imagine security more holistically and reconcile geopolitical interests with wider developmental goals.

If we carefully examine the approaches of the major powers and India’s immediate neighbours, we can discern a more sophisticated strategy of dealing with China. Both the U.S. and Russia are proceeding rapidly with their bilateral cooperation with China. Russia, of course, is central to any Chinese trans-Eurasian vision for the most basic reason: geography. Even a cursory glance at a map reveals that any long-range connectivity projects require active cooperation and coordination with Moscow and its Central Asian allies. Three of the six corridors outlined by China as part of the B&RI — the China-Mongolia-Russia corridor, the new Eurasian Land Bridge, the China-Central Asia-Western Asia economic corridor — all imply Russian cooperation. American companies too are deeply interested in opportunities that would accrue from B&RI projects and are scrambling to partner Chinese firms as well as hoping to serve as industrial suppliers in specific infrastructure projects. This is probably why U.S. President Donald Trump sent a senior White House official to Xi Jinping’s summit.

Clearly, neither of these great powers is, therefore, likely to buy into a zero-sum Indian interpretation of the initiative. This is not to suggest that the U.S. and Russia are unconcerned about their spheres of influence around China’s extended periphery. Rather they have chosen a policy of enhancing interdependence along with pursuing their own geostrategies of upholding traditional political-military alliances. Russia, for example, is developing its own connectivity project called the Eurasian Economic Union, which is actually at a far more advanced stage of institutional development having already established a single market for its five members.


Even in the subcontinent we can notice clear trends of a complex approach towards China. India’s neighbours such as Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Myanmar are all pursuing economic cooperation with China on a growing scale while also maintaining close connections with India and reassuring Delhi about their foreign policies and geopolitical orientations. It is instructive that all of India’s immediate neighbours, except Bhutan, sent representatives to the Beijing summit. This triangular setting suggests it would be extremely challenging, if not impossible, for Delhi to persuade South Asia to curtail or cut off ties with China. What India can realistically do is shape the type of relationship that its neighbours pursue with China and uphold certain redlines such as coming down heavily on regimes that invite China’s military to establish a foothold in the subcontinent.

Chinese neo-colonialism?

Finally, the underlying premise in much of the Indian debate that Asia, and South Asia, is ripe for Chinese neocolonialism or imperial expansion can be refuted. Asia’s national identities are much too strong for state agency to be brushed aside. Can anyone, for instance, make a credible argument that Vietnam — a country that has resisted China for a millennia — will fall under the dragon’s sway because of an engagement with the B&RI? What about Russia, one of the world’s strongest military powers with a history of geopolitical experience in Eurasia? Will it fall under China’s spell because a few billion dollars were invested in its economy or on its Central Asian periphery? Of course not! Even closer home, a tiny island state like Sri Lanka has apparently resisted certain provisions for port usage in the Hambantota project with China on sovereignty grounds. Almost every Asian state has a litany of issues with China’s rise but is pursuing a complex strategy of adapting without in any way folding up. There is little evidence of bandwagoning or the proverbial dominoes toppling into a Chinese sphere of influence.

The notion that China can literally purchase “regional leadership” by financing infrastructure or lending money is ludicrous. Power stems from something much deeper. It requires consent and an ability to provide public goods. China’s internationalism has, so far, been more materialistic than ideational, relying largely on the lure of capital and commerce. This cannot be an enduring prerequisite for order-building. It is instructive that the Chinese-sponsored or promoted institutions that have gained the most multilateral traction — such as the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the New Development Bank, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation — are the ones that are perceived to offer public goods and are built around a semblance of democratised norms or rules.

In short, there’s more room to shape the ongoing power transition towards a multipolar world. Schizophrenia and paranoia cannot be substitutes for smart and sober statecraft, which must include dealing directly with China.

Zorawar Daulet Singh is a Fellow at

the Centre for Policy Research, Delhi

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a-great-wall-of-paranoia/article18475163.ece
 
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No means NO.

WE are still NOT joining the OBOR :lol:

When will you finally stop begging us ?
 
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Chinese are pumping serious money into well known Indian communist newspapers!!

Get over it, stop wasting money on propaganda.. use it on OBOR instead. You have firm no as an answer from India. Stop boring us!!
 
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Chinese are pumping serious money into well know Indian communist newspapers!!

Get over it, stop wasting money on propaganda.. use it on OBOR instead. You have firm no as an answer from India. Stop boring us!!

Indian news papers are just posting alternate POV, but what I find funny is to see the chinese dig up such articles and post it with such regular dedication to change our mind :lol:

I mean, we understand that they are desperate, but seriously, they need to stop making a fool of themselves.
 
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Can anyone, for instance, make a credible argument that Vietnam — a country that has resisted China for a millennia — will fall under the dragon’s sway because of an engagement with the B&RI? What about Russia, one of the world’s strongest military powers with a history of geopolitical experience in Eurasia? Will it fall under China’s spell because a few billion dollars were invested in its economy or on its Central Asian periphery? Of course not! Even closer home, a tiny island state like Sri Lanka has apparently resisted certain provisions for port usage in the Hambantota project with China on sovereignty grounds.

Author's point proven in above.
India can also put on the same shoe and walk the talk.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, but the 10th pass PM can only do so much!
 
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Author's point proven in above.
India can also put on the same shoe and walk the talk.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, but the 10th pass PM can only do so much!

Modi has no intention of skinning cats, but remember he feels the pain when even dogs come under the car. So be safe and don't come under any car.

We beg you? Isn't that your source? You media is begging.

Media is always begging for attention and viewership, but you are posting it here to beg for our attention and change of mind :lol:

So let me repeat it for you, NO means NO.

We are NOT interested in joining the OBOR. Do you get it now ?
 
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Modi has no intention of skinning cats, but remember he feels the pain when even dogs come under the car. So be safe and don't come under any car.



Media is always begging for attention and viewership, but you are posting it here to beg for our attention and change of mind :lol:

So let me repeat it for you, NO means NO.

We are NOT interested in joining the OBOR. Do you get it now ?
Don't have to convince me, I personally strongly oppose India being any part of OROB, go and ask your media and politicians to shut up.
 
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A great wall of paranoia
Zorawar Daulet Singh
MAY 18, 2017 00:02 IST
As China pushes ahead with B&RI, India must reconcile geopolitical interests with wider developmental goals
In a consequential development over the past week, India decided to stake out a clear position of defiance against the Belt & Road Initiative (B&RI), an ambitious Chinese idea that seeks to reshape the Eurasian geo-economic space. India’s absence in Beijing’s high-profile summit with representatives from over 100 countries, including 29 heads of state, has evoked surprise and debate. What is the calculus driving India’s China policy? Does India risk isolation as Eurasia moves towards a new chapter of connectivity and interdependence?

Delhi’s position can be clearly gauged from the Ministry of External Affairs’ May 13 statement. The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a flagship project of the B&RI, is seen as a blatant disregard for India’s position on Jammu and Kashmir because it passes through Azad Kashmir. But Delhi’s protest goes beyond the “core concerns” over sovereignty. The objection to the B&RI is actually more deep-rooted, namely, that China’s rise and projection of geo-economic influence is a direct challenge and threat to India’s great power aspirations and traditional position in the subcontinent.

One influential strand of Indian thinking is that unless and until India develops its own regional connectivity plans and economic capacities at home, there can be no serious engagement with Chinese-sponsored projects. Any premature engagement is likely to entrap India and stunt its rise. An alternative view is that India’s rise itself needs engagement and connections with the wider Asian and Eurasian economies, especially in the post-2008 crisis world which has reduced the viability of the previous liberalisation model of drawing in western capital and basing India’s growth on a handful of service sectors linked to the West. In these changed circumstances, the B&RI is seen to provide an alternative source of finance capital and manufacturing opportunities to buttress India’s economy.

The first view is based on an image of intense competition and rivalry and leaves little room for collaboration. The second competing view is based on an image of interdependence where the idea of growth and development cannot occur in isolation from the world’s second-largest economy. Both world views have some merit. The problem really lies in India’s inability to imagine security more holistically and reconcile geopolitical interests with wider developmental goals.

If we carefully examine the approaches of the major powers and India’s immediate neighbours, we can discern a more sophisticated strategy of dealing with China. Both the U.S. and Russia are proceeding rapidly with their bilateral cooperation with China. Russia, of course, is central to any Chinese trans-Eurasian vision for the most basic reason: geography. Even a cursory glance at a map reveals that any long-range connectivity projects require active cooperation and coordination with Moscow and its Central Asian allies. Three of the six corridors outlined by China as part of the B&RI — the China-Mongolia-Russia corridor, the new Eurasian Land Bridge, the China-Central Asia-Western Asia economic corridor — all imply Russian cooperation. American companies too are deeply interested in opportunities that would accrue from B&RI projects and are scrambling to partner Chinese firms as well as hoping to serve as industrial suppliers in specific infrastructure projects. This is probably why U.S. President Donald Trump sent a senior White House official to Xi Jinping’s summit.

Clearly, neither of these great powers is, therefore, likely to buy into a zero-sum Indian interpretation of the initiative. This is not to suggest that the U.S. and Russia are unconcerned about their spheres of influence around China’s extended periphery. Rather they have chosen a policy of enhancing interdependence along with pursuing their own geostrategies of upholding traditional political-military alliances. Russia, for example, is developing its own connectivity project called the Eurasian Economic Union, which is actually at a far more advanced stage of institutional development having already established a single market for its five members.


Even in the subcontinent we can notice clear trends of a complex approach towards China. India’s neighbours such as Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Myanmar are all pursuing economic cooperation with China on a growing scale while also maintaining close connections with India and reassuring Delhi about their foreign policies and geopolitical orientations. It is instructive that all of India’s immediate neighbours, except Bhutan, sent representatives to the Beijing summit. This triangular setting suggests it would be extremely challenging, if not impossible, for Delhi to persuade South Asia to curtail or cut off ties with China. What India can realistically do is shape the type of relationship that its neighbours pursue with China and uphold certain redlines such as coming down heavily on regimes that invite China’s military to establish a foothold in the subcontinent.

Chinese neo-colonialism?

Finally, the underlying premise in much of the Indian debate that Asia, and South Asia, is ripe for Chinese neocolonialism or imperial expansion can be refuted. Asia’s national identities are much too strong for state agency to be brushed aside. Can anyone, for instance, make a credible argument that Vietnam — a country that has resisted China for a millennia — will fall under the dragon’s sway because of an engagement with the B&RI? What about Russia, one of the world’s strongest military powers with a history of geopolitical experience in Eurasia? Will it fall under China’s spell because a few billion dollars were invested in its economy or on its Central Asian periphery? Of course not! Even closer home, a tiny island state like Sri Lanka has apparently resisted certain provisions for port usage in the Hambantota project with China on sovereignty grounds. Almost every Asian state has a litany of issues with China’s rise but is pursuing a complex strategy of adapting without in any way folding up. There is little evidence of bandwagoning or the proverbial dominoes toppling into a Chinese sphere of influence.

The notion that China can literally purchase “regional leadership” by financing infrastructure or lending money is ludicrous. Power stems from something much deeper. It requires consent and an ability to provide public goods. China’s internationalism has, so far, been more materialistic than ideational, relying largely on the lure of capital and commerce. This cannot be an enduring prerequisite for order-building. It is instructive that the Chinese-sponsored or promoted institutions that have gained the most multilateral traction — such as the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the New Development Bank, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation — are the ones that are perceived to offer public goods and are built around a semblance of democratised norms or rules.

In short, there’s more room to shape the ongoing power transition towards a multipolar world. Schizophrenia and paranoia cannot be substitutes for smart and sober statecraft, which must include dealing directly with China.

Zorawar Daulet Singh is a Fellow at

the Centre for Policy Research, Delhi

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a-great-wall-of-paranoia/article18475163.ece
Chinese investment comes at a cost that India is not willing to pay... India has other resources that can be exploited. OBOR has nothing to contribute to India's economics... Pakistan will never allow transit trade to Central Asia.. India is anyways trading with Eastern Countries...western countries are logistically accessible to India via sea routes... so what is the advantage of joining OBOR...
 
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Don't have to convince me, I personally strongly oppose India being any part of OROB, go and ask your media and politicians to shut up.

India is not china to ask our media and politicans to shut up :lol: ......... we have a small thing called Freedom of speech and expression.

But you should do your best to convince the CPC to stop whining about India not joining OBOR.
 
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India is not china to ask our media and politicans to shut up :lol: ......... we have a small thing called Freedom of speech and expression.

But you should do your best to convince the CPC to stop whining about India not joining OBOR.
We don't whine, we have so many countries to take care, your media is whining, if you can't do anything to stop them, at least don't take it out on me, I didn't write it.
 
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We don't whine, we have so many countries to take care, your media is whining, if you can't do anything to stop them, at least don't take it out on me, I didn't write it.

You are the one posting it which is the same as you begging us to read it and agree with with it :lol:

Your whining is pretty obvious to everybody by now, I am only highlighting it and mocking it for entertainment value.

I have no intention of curbing freedom of speech and expression in India (unlike china) nor am I going to demand it. I think you need to worry more about the lack of such freedom in china. But I guess you do not like to go to jail.
 
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You are the one posting it which is the same as you begging us to read it and agree with with it :lol:

Your whining is pretty obvious to everybody by now, I am only highlighting it and mocking it for entertainment value.

I have no intention of curbing freedom of speech and expression in India (unlike china) nor am I going to demand it. I think you need to worry more about the lack of such freedom in china. But I guess you do not like to go to jail.
You can always choose not to read those posts, you are so frustrated,haha, beside I speak whatever I want and never been in a jail, I heard US or India is the country who has the biggest inmate population, sorry I forget which one, can you help?
 
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You can always choose not to read those posts, you are so frustrated,haha, beside I speak whatever I want and never been in a jail, I heard US or India is the country who has the biggest inmate population, sorry I forget which one, can you help?

Indians experience Multitude freedoms so you pointing out our freedom has no meaning or relevance.

The only one demonstrating frustration on India not joining the OBOR is you and your govt. and you posting this random article is sufficient proof of that.

As for the inmate population, I am always glad to help

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