‘Bush fears a Pakistan-aided Sunni bomb’

[PakSniper]

Or Snipey Bomb!

(thought I rather contribute to the theory)

 

[EagleEyes]

i dont think this whole sunni bomb business is not true. but this "islamic bomb" was a stupid statement made by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. i think this is partly our falt too.

I think the term "Islamic Bomb" was a reference to the first Muslim nation to have nuclear weapons.

 

[A.Rahman]

I think the term "Islamic Bomb" was a reference to the first Muslim nation to have nuclear weapons.

Then we should call Manhattan project "The Christian Bomb"

 

[Bull]

Unfortunately, to the contrary fact is that A.Q.Khan individually has been the reason of 'Iran bomb' and 'Indian bomb' but you didn't noticed and neither your dear uncle sam bothered to name those as 'Shia bomb' and 'Hindu bomb'!.

There is no hindu country that owns a N bomb.

It was zulfikar who said we had the islamic bomb, its not a term that was forced down anybody's throat by the americans.

The world is worried of the fact what happens if one more Arab/Muslims nation gets a nuke. Say for eg Saudi or Iran. The public in the west or for that matter in most of the other part of the worlds have no idea how the militaries in Middle east are structured. To top it up they are worried as to what will happen if a coup occurs and extremists capture power. Most of the power is concentrated with the families and once they are elimnated thej the state's resources is for anybodys taking. And thats the main reason as to why their is so much of skepticsm and talk when a Arab country speaks about having nukes.

 

[KashifAsrar]

Iran's bomb is not going to be against Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or any sunni state. It would be a bomb against Uncle SAM and his illegitimate child Israel.

As far pakistan's nuclear arsenal is concerned, they are dwarf compared to Indian, both quantitaively and qualitatively. Pakistani scientists still require more research and development before they can come near us.

And yes enlighten us that how Dr. A Q Khan helped India?

Kashif

 

[A.Rahman]

As far pakistan's nuclear arsenal is concerned, they are dwarf compared to Indian, both quantitaively and qualitatively. Pakistani scientists still require more research and development before they can come near us.

We don't have Russian scientist with 60 years of experience helping us in our nuclear program; we did it on our own; and as long as our nukes are able send India back into 1st BC I am happy.

 

[EagleEyes]

As far pakistan's nuclear arsenal is concerned, they are dwarf compared to Indian, both quantitaively and qualitatively. Pakistani scientists still require more research and development before they can come near us.

Kashif,

Tell us what is so superior about Indian missiles compared to Pakistani missiles that you call them dwarf.

 

[MirBadshah]

Also please explain how many nukes Pakistan would need to blow the region and how many they posses (as you know better about quality and quantity).

 

[BATMAN]

There is no hindu country that owns a N bomb.

If no hindu country owns a bomb than no sunni country owns it either. So cut the crap.

It was zulfikar who said we had the islamic bomb, its not a term that was forced down anybody's throat by the americans.

I'm sure when Zulfiqar A. Bhutto mentioned Islamic bomb it didn't existed even in Pakistan.
His idea was to involve as many of Islamic countries as possible in the development of same, as partners and I don't see any thing wrong in it. (Today we example of Europe.)
Alas, his dream was not realised and Pakistan had to go along all by him self. Now since the bomb is existing the creator reserve all rights.
Now assuming the stupid theory of your compatriot if Saudi Arabia come under the threat of neuclear attack from his described coalition. You believe that India will lead the help.
BTW we all know that there is no country in the world, who will dream of it and my advice never discuss such absurd theory in public.

The world is worried of the fact what happens if one more Arab/Muslims nation gets a nuke. Say for eg Saudi or Iran. The public in the west or for that matter in most of the other part of the worlds have no idea how the militaries in Middle east are structured. To top it up they are worried as to what will happen if a coup occurs and extremists capture power. Most of the power is concentrated with the families and once they are elimnated thej the state's resources is for anybodys taking. And thats the main reason as to why their is so much of skepticsm and talk when a Arab country speaks about having nukes.

World is worried or India is worried!!
How many years now Pakistan had owned the bomb, governments had been toppled about ten times but what happened? nothing!
Now if we look at India every other day there are instances of stolen uranium by individuals.
There are no compareable examples of sate terrorism any where in modern history.
India is a war obssesed state and should be treated more of a threat than any other terrorist organisation of world.

 

[kidwaibhai]

Iran's bomb is not going to be against Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or any sunni state. It would be a bomb against Uncle SAM and his illegitimate child Israel.

As far pakistan's nuclear arsenal is concerned, they are dwarf compared to Indian, both quantitaively and qualitatively. Pakistani scientists still require more research and development before they can come near us.

And yes enlighten us that how Dr. A Q Khan helped India?

Kashif

The NBC Leak on India-Pakistan Nuclear Weapons Status

A section of the US military establishment appears to have deliberately leaked provocative views on Pakistan''s nuclear capabilities to the media.

A section of the US military establishment appears to have deliberately leaked provocative views on Pakistan's nuclear capabilities to the media. The view is that Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is vastly superior to India's. On 7 June 2000, NBC reported that US intelligence and military agencies have now revised earlier estimates of India's and Pakistan's nuclear capabilities. They estimate that not only does Pakistan have upto five times more nuclear warheads than India but it also has far more accurate and effective delivery systems. NBC reported that after both countries conducted nuclear tests in May 1998, Pakistan had between 10 and 15 nuclear weapons in its arsenal while India had between 25 and 100. However, now they suggest they may have overstated India's 'home-grown' arsenal and understated Pakistan's programme, which has been beefed up with 'generous Chinese assistance'. According to one official, Pakistan is more likely to have 'those numbers of 25 to 100 nuclear warheads than the Indians.' The NBC news report quotes General Anthony Zinni of the US central command who is familiar with the region and who has met with Pakistan's military commanders, including General Pervez Musharraf. According to him, there is a considerable amount of uncertainty on the long-term assumption that Pakistan's nuclear capability is inferior to India's. The report further states that a recent US defence department analysis of India's capability and readiness suggests that New Delhi is now 'aware of its shortcomings' and is seeking to address the problem. It refers to the minimum deterrent force 'comprised of a triad of nuclear delivery systems - air, mobile land-based launches and sea-based platforms' and adds 'the air component of its triad is the only one that may be in place already'. The report states that India has fewer aircraft capable of carrying nuclear warheads than Pakistan and has no missiles capable of delivering nuclear payloads.

New Delhi has twice tested the intermediate range Agni missile, which might eventually provide for delivering nuclear payloads. However, according to analysts, the Agni will not be fielded with nuclear warheads for another 10 years and India appears to have just begun work on missile warheads and miniaturization of weapons. While on the other hand, Islamabad's F-16s and its French Mirage fighter bombers, according to these analysts, are 'superior at penetrating enemy airspace' to India's Soviet-designed MIGs and Sukhois. Besides, Pakistan is now estimated to possess 30 nuclear capable missiles - the Chinese-made M-11 short range missiles and its Pakistani variant, the Tarmuk, as well as the North Korean Nodong intermediate range missile, which the Pakistanis call the Ghauri. Earlier, the Pakistani ambassador in Washington Maleeha Lodhi, in a speech to the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars warned that her country was left with no other options but to build a 'nuclear force' as India embarks on a huge conventional arms build-up. She said: 'We will not be foolish enough to be dragged into matching India's huge and growing military expenditures. Instead, Pakistan will have to enhance its reliance on its nuclear and missile capabilities to ensure against the threat of conventional aggression or attack by India.'

The official Pakistani reaction to the NBC report was predictable. Its foreign office spokeman stated that the report is far from the truth and that their nuclear capability is "modest" as compared to the Indian nuclear establishment. On 8 June 2000, the Pakistani Foreign Office stated that the US intelligence report carries dangerous implications as it tends to justify the ambitious Indian programme for nuclear and conventional build-up. Pakistan states that in comparison to a few Pakistani nuclear facilities, India has a vast nuclear programme comprising dozens of nuclear installations, a large missile and space programme and an Air Force which is five times larger. India, on the other hand, has not given out any official reaction to the report. The Vajpayee government appears committed to sign the CTBT, a position again reiterated by defence minister George Fernandes recently in Japan. But the RSS and its front organisations, who have been sceptical about the CTBT, are now expected to step up pressure to engage Pakistan in a nuclear arms race. BJP vice-president J.P. Mathur, reacting to the report, said, “India should be prepared to meet the challenge and we should not restrict ourselves to any agreement.”
Author: Preetam Bora
Date: 12 June 2000

i think this really gives us a great example how india over estimates its scientific and conventional capability
so to all my indian brothers "KOOTOS"

 

[Adux]

And we have more secret conspiracy theories

 

[kidwaibhai]

dude how can this be a conspiracy this was reported by NBC they qouted defence officials. i really dont think you can simlpy dismiss this as conspiracy theory.

 

[Adux]

Kidwai,

Article lot of its assumptions wrong, since it is 2000 article, when the world knew very less of India except for the good ol ISI. For starters , Mirage 2000 and Jags are the main Indian Nuke carriers.

 

[KashifAsrar]

Kashif,

Tell us what is so superior about Indian missiles compared to Pakistani missiles that you call them dwarf.

Although it is old data but still give some idea to you.

http://www.isis-online.org/publications/southasia/stocks1000.html

http://www.isis-online.org/mapproject/country_pages/india.html

And enrich your self here.

http://www.isis-online.org/publications/southasia/index.html

and here

http://www.isis-online.org/global_stocks/end2003/tableofcontents.html
Enjoy.
Kashif

 

[MirBadshah]

The NBC Leak on India-Pakistan Nuclear Weapons Status

A section of the US military establishment appears to have deliberately leaked provocative views on Pakistan''s nuclear capabilities to the media.

A section of the US military establishment appears to have deliberately leaked provocative views on Pakistan's nuclear capabilities to the media. The view is that Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is vastly superior to India's. On 7 June 2000, NBC reported that US intelligence and military agencies have now revised earlier estimates of India's and Pakistan's nuclear capabilities.
They estimate that not only does Pakistan have upto five times more nuclear warheads than India but it also has far more accurate and effective delivery systems. NBC reported that after both countries conducted nuclear tests in May 1998, Pakistan had between 10 and 15 nuclear weapons in its arsenal while India had between 25 and 100. However, now they suggest they may have overstated India's 'home-grown' arsenal and understated Pakistan's programme, which has been beefed up with 'generous Chinese assistance'. According to one official, Pakistan is more likely to have 'those numbers of 25 to 100 nuclear warheads than the Indians.' The NBC news report quotes General Anthony Zinni of the US central command who is familiar with the region and who has met with Pakistan's military commanders, including General Pervez Musharraf. According to him, there is a considerable amount of uncertainty on the long-term assumption that Pakistan's nuclear capability is inferior to India's. The report further states that a recent US defence department analysis of India's capability and readiness suggests that New Delhi is now 'aware of its shortcomings' and is seeking to address the problem. It refers to the minimum deterrent force 'comprised of a triad of nuclear delivery systems - air, mobile land-based launches and sea-based platforms' and adds 'the air component of its triad is the only one that may be in place already'. The report states that India has fewer aircraft capable of carrying nuclear warheads than Pakistan and has no missiles capable of delivering nuclear payloads.

New Delhi has twice tested the intermediate range Agni missile, which might eventually provide for delivering nuclear payloads. However, according to analysts, the Agni will not be fielded with nuclear warheads for another 10 years and India appears to have just begun work on missile warheads and miniaturization of weapons. While on the other hand, Islamabad's F-16s and its French Mirage fighter bombers, according to these analysts, are 'superior at penetrating enemy airspace' to India's Soviet-designed MIGs and Sukhois. Besides, Pakistan is now estimated to possess 30 nuclear capable missiles - the Chinese-made M-11 short range missiles and its Pakistani variant, the Tarmuk, as well as the North Korean Nodong intermediate range missile, which the Pakistanis call the Ghauri. Earlier, the Pakistani ambassador in Washington Maleeha Lodhi, in a speech to the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars warned that her country was left with no other options but to build a 'nuclear force' as India embarks on a huge conventional arms build-up. She said: 'We will not be foolish enough to be dragged into matching India's huge and growing military expenditures. Instead, Pakistan will have to enhance its reliance on its nuclear and missile capabilities to ensure against the threat of conventional aggression or attack by India.'

The official Pakistani reaction to the NBC report was predictable. Its foreign office spokeman stated that the report is far from the truth and that their nuclear capability is "modest" as compared to the Indian nuclear establishment. On 8 June 2000, the Pakistani Foreign Office stated that the US intelligence report carries dangerous implications as it tends to justify the ambitious Indian programme for nuclear and conventional build-up. Pakistan states that in comparison to a few Pakistani nuclear facilities, India has a vast nuclear programme comprising dozens of nuclear installations, a large missile and space programme and an Air Force which is five times larger. India, on the other hand, has not given out any official reaction to the report. The Vajpayee government appears committed to sign the CTBT, a position again reiterated by defence minister George Fernandes recently in Japan. But the RSS and its front organisations, who have been sceptical about the CTBT, are now expected to step up pressure to engage Pakistan in a nuclear arms race. BJP vice-president J.P. Mathur, reacting to the report, said, “India should be prepared to meet the challenge and we should not restrict ourselves to any agreement.”
Author: Preetam Bora
Date: 12 June 2000

i think this really gives us a great example how india over estimates its scientific and conventional capability
so to all my indian brothers "KOOTOS"

These are all speculations, although Pakistan have a reliable nuclear defence capability but no one knows that real number or capability.

Only a thick head moron would say that some one else nukes are batter then others, nukes are nukes and deadly, hopefully we never need to use.