A Brilliant Piece by BBC Journo Tufail Ahmad…..Indian secularism is Half-Islamist, Half-Pakistani

[Sky lord]

Why is there no law against paid journalism? Surely main stream media would clean up a lot if sponsored articles had to state that they are in fact advertisements and not news.

 

[Spectre]

I wish we could eat Beef and Draw mocking Cartoons at the same time. That is the true secularism one should strive for.

P.S. I hope someone notices I didn't mention whose cartoons - and - why - That is the most important point, I would be immediately censured and post deleted.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

At a time when most writers and journalists were leaving no attempt in defaming the Modi Government on the Dadri issue, some wise words have been published in a website named Indiafacts.co.in by Tufail Ahmad, a former BBC journalist and who is always known for writing sensible articles on some controversial issues.

People are angry at the murder of Muhammad Akhlaq in Dadri over allegations that he ate beef. Some say they are angry at Akhlaq’s murder, while others say they are angry at the murder of the cow. Some people are angry at the cancellation of Pakistani ghazal singer Ghulam Ali’s show of 9 October in Mumbai due to the Shiv Sena’s threat, while others are angry at Pakistani actors and singers being invited in India.

In the natural world, animals are made of meat and bones. Humans too, made of bones and meat, are animals. What angers them? Let’s look at their habits and ideas.

It is a bogus claim that we as humans are concerned about life, whether the life be of an animal or of a human being. For example, lots of people who argue that they believe in non-violence are non-vegetarians and eat meat in full awareness that an animal has been murdered.

In purely humanist considerations, the life of an animal cannot be less precious than the life of a human being. Among vegetarians, Jains deserve respect as they strive not to hurt even insects. It does not automatically mean that all Jains are vegetarians and pacifists, or that vegetarians do not murder.

On 23 June, Pakistani police killed a boy after he posed for selfie with a toy gun in Faisalabad, but Pakistani people did not protest. But if a Palestinian child is injured in firing by Israeli police, there are global protests by leftists and journalists file numerous outraged reports.

When the U.S. launched the war in Iraq, there were protests across the world by anti-war activists. When Saudi Arabia launched the current air strikes on Yemen, anti-war activists went to sleep. Pakistani army regularly kills people in Balochistan, but Pakistanis do not rise up. In India, secular journalists who claim they are concerned about human rights do not get angry when victims are Hindu.

Indian secularism is colour-blind.

Secular journalists who are angry at Akhlaq’s killing adopted total silence on a number of murders recently. Last August, army jawan Vedmitra Chaudhury was lynched to death in Hardevnagar, near Meerut, for saving a girl from molesters. In March, a Hindu man was abducted and murdered in Hajipur of Bihar for marrying a Muslim girl. Last June, a man was lynched to death near Eluru in Andhra Pradesh. A mob killed a man in Bhandup West area of Mumbai in June.

Secular journalists’ colour-blindness prevents them from seeing these murders: they do not get angry; they want Muslims to be murdered; only then they speak up. Indian secularism has tasted the Muslim blood.

Indian secularism is not only colour-blind, it is also half-Pakistani.

Secular leader Arvind Kejriwal, the chief minister of Delhi, spoke with Ghulam Ali after his show was cancelled and will host him in Delhi. Secular leader Akhilesh Yadav, the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, organised Ghulam Ali’s show in Lucknow.




A.R.Rahman

But Kejriwal and Akhilesh didn’t invite our own Oscar-winning musician A. R. Rahman when his music show of 13 September in Delhi was cancelled due to a fatwa by the Barelvi group Raza Academy.Secularism does not like Indian Muslim singers; it does not like Indian writers like Salman Rushdie. Mamata Banerjee, another secular leader, supported Ghulam Ali, saying music has no international boundaries but she will not support Taslima Nasreen, the Bangladeshi writer.

Indian secularism is truly Pakistani, not even a quarter-Bangladeshi.

Indian secularism is also counter-nationalist: secular lawyers turned out at midnight before the Supreme Court to save the life of convicted terrorist Yakub Menon but remain silent on death sentences of common Indians.

Secular journalist Nikhil Wagle wrote: “Without secularism, India is a Hindu Pakistan.“

Indian secularism is not even Indian: it is incomplete without eating beef. It loves to eat beef because Pakistanis eat beef. It is essentially Pakistani. It aligns with Pakistanis.

In 1947, our people thought that they could give away a piece of India’s territory to buy permanent peace. The secular government of Manmohan Singh came close to conceding a part of Kashmir to Pakistan in talks with General Pervez Musharraf, the architect of arguably the largest jihad in modern times in Kargil. Indian secularism is without sex, without consummating with Pakistan.




In his landmark book “On War”, German military strategist Carl von Clausewitz observed: “War is the continuation of politics by other means.” The reason Indians do not want Pakistani singers here is because Pakistan is practically in a state of war against India for nearly seven decades.

Through television and social media, common Indians can understand Pakistan’s war by other means. Pakistan has not formally declared a war, but Indians have grasped the obvious fact of our times that we are in a state of war because Pakistan continues to send jihadists into India. Aamir Khan’s movie Sarfarosh showed us that Pakistan sends arms dealers posing as ghazal singers.

Indian secularism is also Islamist.

In 2012, the secular Congress government did not allow Salman Rushdie to speak in Jaipur because secularism is in an incestuous relationship with Islamists. Mamata Banerjee does not support Taslima Nasreen because the West Bengal CM is in league with Islamists in the state.

Kejriwal’s secularism is in open alliance with Islamists. In 2013, Kejriwal visited Bareilly to meet Islamic cleric Tauqeer Raza Khan to seek Muslim votes. Last year, he sent Alka Lamba to meet Imam Bukhari’s brother to seek Muslim votes. In 1986, Rajiv Gandhi’s secularism surrendered before Islamic clerics in the Shah Bano case. Indian secularism is incomplete without its ideological cohabitation with Islamists.

On 1 October, secular gossip columnist Shobhaa De tweeted: “I just ate beef. Come and murder me.” The question also is: Will she draw a cartoon of Prophet Muhammad at the Gateway of India?

In a tweet dated 4 October, secular journalist Sagarika Ghose wrote: “Citizens of India, we need a campaign like Je Suis Charlie. Hold your head high and say ‘I am a beef eater’.” The question is: Will secular journalists draw the same cartoon in front of Delhi’s Jamaa Masjid?

The outrage is not about beef or cartoon. Indian youths are concerned over secularism’s double standards; they will support your right to eat beef if you are willing to draw a cartoon, even from your kitchen. The secular NDTV, supported by Aircel, began Save Our Tiger campaign. Why not a Save the Cow campaign?

India is a great nation. Its reality is this: Bollywood actor Aamir Khan makes the movie #PK in which Hindu god Lord Shiva is locked up in a bathroom and threatened, but he cannot make a movie on Prophet Muhammad. This is the imbalance in our national conversation that threatens India’s social cohesion. It is fostered by journalists.


India is witnessing the emergence of fascism from newsrooms, a movement of totalitarian ideas that divides us in order to win. Indian journalists are beaten up by Indians in New York or Dadri for their double standards. On social media, they are being called pimps and presstitutes, bimbos and bazaaru media because they sell their souls for a bungalow or a Rajya Sabha seat.

This secular fascism, in league with Islamic totalitarianism, wins by dividing us, but police must deal ruthlessly with any Indian who takes law into their own hands.

A Brilliant Piece by BBC Journo Tufail Ahmad.....Indian secularism is Half-Islamist, Half-Pakistani - Satyameva Jayate

@Aminroop @sarthak Ganguly @ranjeet

I think I have talked to this Tufail Ahmed guy. Or may be it was another with the same name. He was a strong proponent of reform in Islam. He has very strong (pro Indian) views like me. And radical solutions. Unlike me.

I have been arguing with ppl who brandishing their secular credentials by holding beef parties... Can they have cartoon fest in a protest of killing of Charlie journalist?

Slap them. Then talk. Trust me - it will work.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Very impressive article indeed. I like the word ' double standard' which is used for Indian secularism. This is the fact that Hindus are more tolerance community more than anyone in this world ,like article said ' India is a country where you can make a movie to disrespect Hindus lord frankly , but you can't do the same to prophet muhhmad'. Muslims are not secular itself but they hope other to be secular for their rights.

 

[halupridol]

umm,,, brilliant peace?
nothng but mirch masala

 

[utraash]

umm,,, brilliant peace?
nothng but mirch masala

Where is the mirch n where is the masala?

 

[The_Showstopper]

LOL Bhakts trying to get some kind of validation by highlighting BBC(British Broadcasting Corp) Journo, and these Bhakts at the same time were rubbishing British tabloids who had some sweet things to say about their Feku... What an irony!

Can they have cartoon fest in a protest of killing of Charlie journalist?

Can we have drawing fest in honour of MF Hussain?

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

give BBC link Bhakt. I ain't increasing traffic for Bhakt websites.

Disregarding all that part, so called secular parties should have supported ARR, when there was no mistake on him. Taslima would have loved to live in Kolkata among her culture. But so called beacon of secularism Mamata supported nor the CPI.
Not but not the least one of our greatest artists MF Hussain had to die in Qatar. Yes, Hindutvadis opposed, threatened him, but secular parties remained silent.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

A.R.Rahman

But Kejriwal and Akhilesh didn’t invite our own Oscar-winning musician A. R. Rahman when his music show of 13 September in Delhi was cancelled due to a fatwa by the Barelvi group Raza Academy.Secularism does not like Indian Muslim singers; it does not like Indian writers like Salman Rushdie. Mamata Banerjee, another secular leader, supported Ghulam Ali, saying music has no international boundaries but she will not support Taslima Nasreen, the Bangladeshi writer.

They didnt invite AR Rahman because of some fatwa? AR Rahman is like the most peaceful guy you can meet, but these spineless cowards listened to some medieval idiot issuing a fatwa against them?

Secularism is okay to a degree, but being spineless pussy against these intolerant assholes isn't.

 

[rubyjackass]

Disregarding all that part, so called secular parties should have supported ARR, when there was no mistake on him. Taslima would have loved to live in Kolkata among her culture. But so called beacon of secularism Mamata supported nor the CPI.
Not but not the least one of our greatest artists MF Hussain had to die in Qatar. Yes, Hindutvadis opposed, threatened him, but secular parties remained silent.

Rehman did get support from people like Romila Thapar(a favourite punching bag for saffronists). I don't remember any statement by politicians though. But Rehman gave a slap to the fatwa factory himself in a respectful tone characteristic to him.

I wish we could eat Beef and Draw mocking Cartoons at the same time. That is the true secularism one should strive for.

P.S. I hope someone notices I didn't mention whose cartoons - and - why - That is the most important point, I would be immediately censured and post deleted.

We will get there.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Rehman did get support from people like Romila Thapar(a favourite punching bag for saffronists). I don't remember any statement by politicians though. But Rehman gave a slap to the fatwa factory himself in a respectful tone characteristic to him.


We will get there.

It fizzled out cos normal Muslims werent fooled this time. They know who ARR was, and his charisma was well known. Maulvis didnt have the support of Muslims themselves. But politicians need the support of Maulvis.

Ya, his response was crisp, unhurting, and grand amount of truth

 

[jamahir]

some wise words have been published in a website named Indiafacts.co.in by Tufail Ahmad, a former BBC journalist and who is always known for writing sensible articles on some controversial issues.

being in india and writing pro-sangh articles neither takes bravery nor sense, even for almost-ghar-wapsi'ed ones like tufail ahmad.

Indian secularism is also counter-nationalist

ah, that obsession of the sangh to keep screaming "bharat mata ki jai" and project a war-mongering and militarist image, while ignoring that it is precisely because of abundance of nationalism, religio-nationalism and jingoism in india that india has had so many problems, including suicide of 200,000 farmers between 1997 and 2010... if india had been internationalist through adoption of socialism in 1947, those farmers wouldn't have suicided.

i always say that i dislike nationalists... they are counter-progress and the death of society.

Last August, army jawan Vedmitra Chaudhury was lynched to death in Hardevnagar, near Meerut, for saving a girl from molesters.

this soldier is a real martyr, doing what the entire indian military should really be doing - confronting the generally anti-human traditional india ( bharat ) and reactionary/regressive attitudes here, rather than participating in nato's imperialist wars.

has vedmitra chaudhury been posthumously given the highest military award since or has such a recommendation been made by modi sarkaar and its cohorts in the media?? remember, those "molestors" were only the result of the traditions and culture protected and promoted by the reactionaries, including the sangh.

and why did sangh apologist tufail not also mention this well-known case ( Reuben-Keenan murder trial to begin in November )??

possibly because...

Avinash Solanki, the complainant in the case, has told NDTV that the main accused Jitendra Rana started laughing when he was identified.

"After identifying him, he told me: 'Phir milenge. We shall meet again.' I told him I would," said Solanki, still unable to come to terms with the brush he had with Rana.

this ( Bustle ) should be read by everyone.

The outrage is not about beef or cartoon. Indian youths are concerned over secularism’s double standards; they will support your right to eat beef if you are willing to draw a cartoon, even from your kitchen.

i want charlie hebdo and its sanghi fans to draw a jokey cartoon about the paris attacks... didn't charlie hebdo make a jokey cartoon about the russian plane explosion deaths??

India is a great nation. Its reality is this: Bollywood actor Aamir Khan makes the movie #PK in which Hindu god Lord Shiva is locked up in a bathroom and threatened, but he cannot make a movie on Prophet Muhammad.

but aamir khan can certainly speak of the earlier film on prophet muhammad called "the message" whose production was supported by the current imam of all muslims, muammar gaddafi.

i want tufail ahmad and the sanghis to support muammar.

Aamir Khan’s movie Sarfarosh showed us that Pakistan sends arms dealers posing as ghazal singers.

that film, though technically good, had a ill-advised plot... but tufail ahmad sees that as reality.

This secular fascism, in league with Islamic totalitarianism, wins by dividing us, but police must deal ruthlessly with any Indian who takes law into their own hands.

how does tufail ahmad react to the progressives saying that modi sarkar is a fascist government??

 

[utraash]

LOL Bhakts trying to get some kind of validation by highlighting BBC(British Broadcasting Corp) Journo, and these Bhakts at the same time were rubbishing British tabloids who had some sweet things to say about their Feku... What an irony!


Can we have drawing fest in honour of MF Hussain?

Islamists with their usual whine under the garb of Indian secularism... Every Islamists(must be a result of some sword) calling everyone bhakt is their last resort..... I wish we become a true secular country where one can eat whatever he/she wants n same time ppl can draw nude pics of some prophet to display the artistic skills without any fear .....

 

[The_Showstopper]

Islamists with their usual whine under the garb of Indian secularism... Every Islamists(must be a result of some sword) calling everyone bhakt is their last resort..... I wish we become a true secular country where one can eat whatever he/she wants n same time ppl can draw nude pics of some prophet to display the artistic skills without any fear .....

Looks like one of the PDF Sanghi just got pricked real bad... LOL

Sure a secular country where we can munch on paaya of "Holy cow" and sooth our eyes with nude paintings of some Goddess.

 

[Manidabest]

indians are becoming intolerant nation which is really a good news for Pakistan ....keep it up indians!!!