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95% of IT “Engineers” in India Incapable, New Report Reveals

Just curious, exactly how much were you paying to these Indian developers compared to their "their counterparts in western countries"? Did it reach the 1/10th mark?

I Don't hate and have good respect if he/she is hardworking and not bull shiting with false information. buddy. You got the crappy code because you paid for crappy code. Perhaps that's all you could afford? Pay more to hire better coders and stop complaining.
I doesn't matter how much you paid, when it comes to understanding the problem and solving the issue, Indian IT crew just staring at you or calling their buddy to save their sinking ship.
Just curious, exactly how much were you paying to these Indian developers compared to their "their counterparts in western countries"? Did it reach the 1/10th mark?

Don't hate us buddy. You got crappy code because you paid for crappy code. Perhaps that's all you could afford? Pay more to hire better coders and stop complaining.
It doesn't matter how much you paid , when it comes to understanding the problem and solving the issue, Indian IT crew just staring at you or calling their buddy to save their sinking ship. I never hate anybody if he/she performing very well and not doing bullshit or wasting my time. I respect everybody if he/she tells me honeslty I don't know about it so at least it prepare ahead and I'll try something else to save my timeline.
 
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Now every other Pakistani, Chinese are software Engineers working in the US and dealing with Indian Engineers, sure they are highly inefficient and is doing cheating to get their job done.
 
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Now every other Pakistani, Chinese are software Engineers working in the US and dealing with Indian Engineers, sure they are highly inefficient and is doing cheating to get their job done.
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^^^ for you @Chhatrapati this is for you @Chutrrainphati...
 
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Our enemies should be glad that 95% are incapable of basic programing.
With just 5% capable we are able to have 100 billion plus market. If only 50% of rest will become capable we will hit trillion$ in the segment.

Need to understand whats basic programing?
if they are reffering to GWBasic, then it might be 20yr old programing language and people might not able to remember its syntax.




5% of 1.4 billion is a huge number.
 
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I doesn't matter how much you paid, when it comes to understanding the problem and solving the issue, Indian IT crew just staring at you or calling their buddy to save their sinking ship.

It doesn't matter how much you paid , when it comes to understanding the problem and solving the issue, Indian IT crew just staring at you or calling their buddy to save their sinking ship. I never hate anybody if he/she performing very well and not doing bullshit or wasting my time. I respect everybody if he/she tells me honeslty I don't know about it so at least it prepare ahead and I'll try something else to save my timeline.

Are you saying that even when you pay them equivalent salary as their native counterparts, they still fail to deliver?

If that is the case then you should fire them. Along with the guy who hired them. Fire him too.

But that is not what typically happens. The average Indian coder in India will get 1/20th of their counterparts in US if they are lucky. As such, one shouldn't expect too much from them.
 
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Are you saying that even when you pay them equivalent salary as their native counterparts, they still fail to deliver?
that is USUALLY the case but their are some exceptions here and there.
If that is the case then you should fire them. Along with the guy who hired them. Fire him too.
I do fire them along with the indian contracting company that he came with... 8-)
But that is not what typically happens. The average Indian coder in India will get 1/20th of their counterparts in US if they are lucky. As such, one shouldn't expect too much from them.
wrong answer. cost of living in india is also 1/20th the cost of living in the u.s. so to say that they are somehow allowed to have subpar performance is ridiculous and a dead on arrival argument.
 
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...cost of living in india is also 1/20th the cost of living in the u.s....

Nah.

Cost of living in India is about 1/4th of US for basic items. Like foodstuff. Cost of living doesn't work that way.

If that were the case then every Indian coder would have had a Sedan.
 
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A new report by Aspiring Minds, the world’s largest employability assessment company, has revealed that over 95 percent of all IT “engineers” in India are incapable of basic programming—shattering the myth of Indian “IT expertise” and destroying the controlled media’s often-repeated claim that engineers from that country are urgently needed to “boost the skill sets of Europe and America.”

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According to the study, titled “National Programming Skills Report,” only 4.77 percent of Indian IT engineers can write the correct logic for a program—a minimum requirement for any programming job.


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Aspiring minds is world-famous for helping organizations, governments and institutions measure and identify talent. Their client base includes Sapient, Coca Cola, GE, Amazon, Genpact, Bank of America, CITI bank, HCL, Wipro, Tata Motors, Du Pont, Daimler, and Hyundai.

Their latest report on India’s IT skill levels is also featured as a front cover news story in Dataquest, India’s leading technology magazine in its April 2018 edition.

Over 36,000 engineering students from IT related branches of over 500 colleges took a test developed by Aspiring Minds called Automata, which is the world’s smartest programming assessment that evaluates coding ability of candidates. Using simulated environment for C, C++, C#, Java, PHP, Python, SQL and over a dozen languages, Automata is the only tool to leverage advanced Machine Learning technology to evaluate code.

According to the report’s executive summary:

Only 1.4 percent of Indian IT engineers can write functionally correct & efficient code.

* More than 60 percent of candidates cannot even write code that compiles.

* Only 4.77 percent candidates can write the correct logic for a program, a minimum requirement for any programming job.

* Programming skills is five times poorer for third tier colleges as compared to tier 1 colleges.

The key findings of the study are listed as follows:

– “Only 36% engineers are able to write compilable code . . . Unfortunately, we find that out of the 2 problems given per candidate, only 14% engineers are able to write compilable codes for both and only 22% write compilable code for exactly one problem. To sustain the growth of IT industry, we need candidates with high technology caliber and better programming skills.”

– “Lack of adequate knowledge to build a logically correct, maintainable code is the key reason for low employability.

– “As low as 2.21% engineers possess the skill to write a fully functional code with best efficiency and writing practices Functionally correct code is the basic requisite of a good programmer . . . The analysis unveils that only 2.21% engineers possess the skillset to write logically correct code with best efficiency & least time-space complexity.”

– “Programming Practices and Programming Ability are the areas of maximum skill gap across demographics . . . Programming Practices is the ability to code in readable & maintainable fashion and Programming Ability is the ability to code in most optimized way.”

The report also found that although Indian males perform terribly at IT skills, Indian females were even worse. Under the section of the report titled “Programming Skill Gender Comparison,” the following summary is found:

“[Skill level] A4: Functionally and logically correct code: Male 3.16 %; Female 0.71%”

“[Skill level] A3: Functionally correct code with few anomalies: Male 3.48%; Female 1.10%”

“[Skill level] A2: Functionally incorrect code: Male 36.15%; Female 22.93%”

“[Skill level] A1: Syntax Error: Male 57.21%, Female 75.25%.”

The report concludes that “Only 25% of [Indian] females are able to write a compilable code and less than 1% can write logically & functionally correct code.”

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The report undermines the oft-repeated claim in the controlled media that India is an “IT giant” and that engineers from that country are urgently needed to “boost the skill sets of Europe and America.”

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5% of India's population is a huge number
 
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C, C++, C#, Java, PHP, Python, SQL and over a dozen languages

Most so called "IT Engineers" do courses like Microsoft Certified/Cisco/Nortel/SAP

How many have gone through Uni to do real study i.e. Pure Computer Science? probably less than 0.1%

Programming and Algorithms is the first semester, first module, of year 1 study.

"introduces basic principles of programming and algorithms. It covers fundamental programming constructs, such as types and variables, expressions, control structures, and functions. You'll learn how to design and analyse simple algorithms and data structures that allow efficient storage and manipulation of data. You'll also become familiar with basic software development methodology"

Just look at the syllabus for any CompSci course. No Graduate can call himself a professional programmer, unless he has years of experience. I know people with masters in comp sci with 10 years industry experience. And they are just about coherent. How can these guys call themslevs experts.
 
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I am a Network engineer for an Aussie MSP. My company has an office in Mumbai and i deal with Indian staff on a daily basis and this is my experience, there are good and bad engineers in every society and expecting a large proportion of the population to be really really good is not realistic but due to the marketing hype of Indian IT people, this is what is expected and if even one small thing goes wrong all of them get blamed for being bad, which again is not right.
 
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Computer Science is IT. You need a grade of AAA to get into most colleges for CompSci.

The UK has a much better educational system than Asia. 87% of college students do not get AAA. And they need to be "hard subjects" like A-LEVEL Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry. So in reality around 98% of uk students are ineligible for a compsci education

No disrespect to proper Indian students, but most IT Indians are just flooding the markets and world tech companies are basing contracts mostly on economic reasons i.e lowering costs.

Remember programmers a.k.a software devs are on around 100 thousand pounds for normal to 150 thousand pounds a year for full stack.

You need multiple devs to develop.
 
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I work with all kind of nationality and respect them without any race discrimination but Most often, I encounter Indian developers don’t have the quality when compared to their counterparts in western countries. Development teams in western countries often blame their offshore counterparts for slowing them down. It has been said that Indians are not technically competent, write poor code, don’t give any suggestions to solve problems but keep them talk bullshit all day on howto looks good and have a fake innocent smile all the time and best in Lobby against Pakistani strong quality developer to get rid of him/her.

Agree with this, I have had the misfortune to work with Indians, you give them 4 weeks and nothing is done, lucky my company has decided not to hire Indians anymore or to work with Indians in India.

My General Manager is a woman and these Indians don't want to work with her, they talk down to her, or just ignore her, disgusting Indians even though she is 100 times smarter than these Indians, Indian mentality and culture coming to the fore.
 
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Are you saying that even when you pay them equivalent salary as their native counterparts, they still fail to deliver?

If that is the case then you should fire them. Along with the guy who hired them. Fire him too.

But that is not what typically happens. The average Indian coder in India will get 1/20th of their counterparts in US if they are lucky. As such, one shouldn't expect too much from them.
Well this is not my decision to get rid of them, few are very good and just require little kick back, Western companies learning how Indian most IT folks lie in their cooked up the resume and make it into their env but these folks are creating a very bad name of Indian IT. The gulf between Indian IT hype and reality over the past decade is best shown in numbers. One veteran venture capitalist reckons the investments made in “new-generation” technology firms are worth $5 billion-6 billion today. The largest listed firm has a market capitalisation of $700m. By way of comparison, China’s listed internet firms have a combined value of over $100 billion and its e-commerce sales are about 18 times India’s. Other emerging economies, such as Russia, Argentina, and South Africa, have produced multi-billion-dollar internet champions. During the past decade, India has fallen behind and main root cause is incompetent IT folks.
 
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