73 killed as Maoists ambush CRPF team

[durgs360]

^^^^^^^ Please free your oppressed brain from blackened heart first ! Then try to unite other people. You are an excuse for human being. Pathetic to see the least !!

 

[durgs360]

Where there is oppression there is resistance!!!!!

Proletarians of all countries , unite !!!!!!!!!!

Where do you get your salary from? Cuba or China. Oh Sorry ! Communists have destroyed Cuba, and Chinese dont believe in Communism any more. Probably Naxals themselves pay you for surrendering your manhood to them. Oh! Wait you are not a man at all !!!

 

[notsuperstitious]

that's because of the media controlled by the riches! medias say something bad to them
Besides, elections in india and US are all games for riches!!! we poors don't believe that

No need for excuses, you just don't believe in democracy, thats all.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

The naxals fight elections? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Why would they fight elections? Their entire ideology is based on fighting a parliamentary system of government. Why would they go against their own ideology? It's like me suggesting that those goose stepping RSS fascists should become Communist. Is that really going happen?

Mining companies may not have been there before but that does not mean there wasnt oppression. You think the naxals have popular support only because of the mining deals signed by the government? Operation Greenhunt may be about Mining companies but the larger problem has to do with the complete and total neglect and the violence that these people have faced at the hands of the state.



The Maoists don't support China. The original naxalite movement under Charu Majumdar may have, but right now China is a one party capitalist dictatorship that has rejected Maoist ideology and embraced capitalism. Why would a revolutionary peasant movement support it?

Think before you talk people.



That is indeed an assumption. But considering the chest thumping stupidity on display in this thread, not an incorrect one.

The truth is, the majority of us live in a bubble. We have all the comforts of the new India. The government more often than not works for us. We can't imagine a situation where a community would go against a government elected to represent them. There is a failure to understand the reasons for this conflict on all levels. Reading reports on poverty in these areas does not do it justice. It needs to be seen to be believed.

Just imagine a place where there are no schools, no hospitals, no development to speak of, a place where day to day existence is extremely difficult, a place where a government only exists on paper and the elected representatives only visit once a year during election time. A place where landlords, in connivance with the police, rule the roost and engage in random acts of violence against you or your family. The land that you till is the only hope of survival. Now, after years, nay, decades of neglect, the government comes and tells you that you need to sell of your land to make way for an industry, and if you try to protest the police beats you up or puts you behind bars for being a Maoist. In such a place, why the hell won't someone pick up a gun to fight the government?

You might think this is an extreme situation and that it's not really as bad as this. You're right, its not as bad as this. It's worse. We have all read our History books which praise people like Bhagat Singh who tried to use violence against the government, albeit a foreign one, why is it then so difficult to understand the Tribal populations motivation to pick up a gun?

By the way, Bhagat Singh was also a communist.



No. Because when you break free from certain shackles placed on the mind in society, you are able to see through everything. This doesn't make me special, it is a result of the education that i have received.



That is the reason that the government gives us. Any right thinking individual can see through it.



I have been critical of the media's coverage of the terrorists attacks that resulted in casualties in the Taj in the past. However that does not mean i would disbar them from reporting on an issue.



Yes exactly. The media's dependence on corporates means that they cannot ever be critical of them. Fantastic, isnt it?



I'm not the one advocating a ban on the media. You are. All i want is a media that is unbiased it's coverage. Is that too much?



We shall see five years down the line whose assessment was accurate.



Do you not have the ability to read and think at the same time? I have been quite clear in putting forth my arguments.



Maoists propaganda? Hmmm, this is another major problem about this conflict. Every time someone is critical of the governments actions, he or she is called a Maoist sympathizer. The imprisonment of Dr Binayak Sen is an example of this.

To paraphrase a famous saying, "If i give money to the poor, they call me a saint. But if i ask why they are poor, they call me a Maoist"

Since you are new here, let me put it across to you simply. I am as critical of the Maoists as i am of the government. I believe that they have replaced the government as being an alternate power structure that is equally oppressive. I do not believe in their ideology of revolutionary violence. Any change for me must come through a democratic government that is accountable and not through violent mass movements that have a tendency to lead to autocratic oppressive states. This however does not mean that i cannot see thorough our governments BS, a government i helped elect i might add.



The Maoists are not holding a gun to your head. On the contrary, it is the government which is holding a gun on the head of the tribals. This is not about you or your unwillingness "to surrender". Who do you think you are? Do you think this conflict is about you personally? Once again stop talking in empty rhetoric.



No, it is under way because the government wants to activate dormant mining contracts.



I have already answered on question the maoists and elections. See above.

I am not equating the Maoists and the Government. I havent even talked of Maoists. All my posts have been essentially about Tribals. About why they are supporting the Maoists. I do however equate Maoist violence and state violence.

As far as accountability goes, one of the reasons that i am critical of the government is because i elected it, it should be accountable to the questions people like me put to it.

Why is there such a huge disconnect between the common Tribal / Naxal and these BR-wannabes on ? Could part of the reason be that nearly all Indians on pak.def are considered the upper class (mostly Brahmins), and thus removed from the daily struggle to feed their and their children's mouths?! YES.

It is sad how you call for "revenge" and "blood" of these very same people who can barely survive, who must live day-to-day, not knowing if they will live to see tomorrow. With the rich / upper class of India treating their own down-stricken with contempt, how can you expect them to have any love for you???

It is difficult to accept the truth that we ourselves are the major source of the problem. Until these Brahmins can face their own skeletons, the struggle for a fair world will continue.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Why is there such a huge disconnect between the common Tribal / Naxal and these BR-wannabes on ? Could part of the reason be that nearly all Indians on pak.def are considered the upper class (mostly Brahmins), and thus removed from the daily struggle to feed their and their children's mouths?! YES.

It is sad how you call for "revenge" and "blood" of these very same people who can barely survive, who must live day-to-day, not knowing if they will live to see tomorrow. With the rich / upper class of India treating their own down-stricken with contempt, how can you expect them to have any love for you???

It is difficult to accept the truth that we ourselves are the major source of the problem. Until these Brahmins can face their own skeletons, the struggle for a fair world will continue.

Lets start with your assumption, can you tell my caste? Or how much land my family owns? Or what mygrandfather did for a living?

Go ahead, make a guess.

And then find out why chru majumdar was a brahmin, or kanu sanyal or so many other maoist leaders even today? Whats with the brahmin bull dude? I know you are on a pakisani forum - trying to be adequate?

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

Lets start with your assumption, can you tell my caste? Or how much land my family owns? Or what mygrandfather did for a living?

Go ahead, make a guess.

And then find out why chru majumdar was a brahmin, or kanu sanyal or so many other maoist leaders even today? Whats with the brahmin bull dude? I know you are on a pakisani forum - trying to be adequate?

There is nothing unusual for the leaders of a class struggle to be middle (or even upper) class. This often occurs because they have had better access to education, literature, outside-world contacts, connections, etc. Often case it is the middle-upper class that leads the lower class in the struggle. Take a look at Che Guevera, he was an middle-upper class physician.

Yes, it would be more representative if a dalit or tribal were leading the way. Perhaps there are many.

 

[IBRIS]

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Tears is the hydraulic force by which masculine willpower is defeated by feminine waterpower.

 

[notsuperstitious]

There is nothing unusual for the leaders of a class struggle to be middle (or even upper) class. This often occurs because they have had better access to education, literature, outside-world contacts, connections, etc. Often case it is the middle-upper class that leads the lower class in the struggle. Take a look at Che Guevera, he was an middle-upper class physician.

Yes, it would be more representative if a dalit or tribal were leading the way. Perhaps there are many.

Now you are back to class? Just a comment back you were talking about brahmins? Whats with you, not stable?

Its not mandatory you know to talk of brahmins or calling people small minded hindus here even though its a pakistani forum. So keep your assinine assumptions to yourself.

 

[TheBraveHeart]

Can any naxal sympathizer explain me the following account???Does involving children is justified??
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How I joined the Naxals, and why I left

In the Bastar district of Chhattisgarh, one of the India's worst Naxalite-affected regions, rediff.com's Archana Masih meets a teenaged girl who left the Naxals and is trying to build her life all over again.

It is hard to spot Madhuri in a bunch of men. She is the youngest of the group and looks like a teenaged boy. Her once long hair is cut short, the tiny frame is clad in jeans and shirt; a pair of red sneakers match her striped shirt.

An orange stone ring adorns her right hand in which she had held a 12 bore 303 rifle at age 10.

One night the Naxals had come to the village and taken her away. They did not force her, she says, but had spoken to her nicely. She was trained in armed combat and guerilla tactics; learned how to make and plant bombs, ambush police patrols and attack police posts. She also served in the Naxal medical team, administering injections and nursing injured comrades.

Her first assignment was to teach A B C D to the uneducated in the camp. On another assignment she struck a policeman with ten lathi blows while another comrade slit his throat.

Then one day disillusioned by her leaders, she wrote a letter to her comrades and left. They came back and asked her to return, but she refused. Fearful of the consequences on her three younger siblings because of her return, she surrendered to the police and has been working as a special police officer with the Chhattisgarh police.

After her return, life has been tough, but better than what it was in the jungles. She is paid Rs 3,600 a month and hopes to be selected as a constable with a permanent, better paying government job.

On a hot summer day, Madhuri, whose name has been changed for fear of retribution by the Naxals, remembers her difficult past and looks into the uncertain future.

"When I was young and studying, the Naxalites came and took me. I lived in my village and have studied till class VIII. My school was 5, 6 kms away and I used to cycle to school. Then teaching stopped in my school (actually I did not complete class VI) -- I went to the next village for private classes to appear for class VIII. I had three sisters and mother in the village. I have no recollection of my father. My sisters are all younger to me.

They (the Naxalites) came to my home in the night and took me. I had come home in the village after giving my class VIII exam. They were the platoonwale -- the military dalam -- commander Jaymati came to my house. They were four -- the remaining stayed in the jungle. They said 'You don't have a father, you can come and work for the party.' They did not show any force, they spoke nicely.

I had seen them in the village before and they used to talk to me. But I did not know who they were. They did not tell me what they did."

"People from the platoon taught us how to lay ambushes, plant bombs and attack the police. The trained us in basic infantry tactics -- fire from standing position, sitting position, high kneeling position, low kneeling, crawling etc. I trained for a month, five other women trained with me.

I was 10. I did not know that they did all this till I got there.

We were in South Bastar and training was rigorous. We used to wake up at 4 am for PT and drill, followed by breakfast of poha and then studies. They taught us about the teachings Mao and their way of life.

ABCD was also taught to those who were totally illiterate. After studies we had lunch and two hours rest followed by PT, drill, training and tea.

In the night after dinner we went to the jungle for night training. There were 30 of us in this training -- 5, 6 were girls. Later we were sent to a larger camp for training, here we were taught how to draw maps of police stations, how to gherao police posts, how to snatch a rifle from a constable. We were trained by military commanders. In this camp we were 15 girls in my batch. There were 4 to 5 batches getting trained there.

Here also our routine was almost the same. In the morning we used to have a roll call and they also gave us training in self defence in case we came under attack.

'My mother died when I was in the jungles. I do not know when'

"My mother died when I went to the dalam (squad). I don't know exactly when, she passed away while I was gone in the jungles. My younger sisters were left alone in the village but I could not come back for the fear of the party and that the police would nab me. I also thought that since my mother was no more, what was there for me in the village? Perhaps my sisters would be better off without me."

'My first posting was as a teacher'

After my military training, I was sent to my first posting. Here my duty was to teach those who did not know how to read and write. A year later I became like a sipahi (armed comrade). Then after this they sent me to the medical team. I used to check fever, give injections and saline drip.

Serious cases used to also be brought here, operations also used to be done. Sometimes doctors from the city came to the forest to do operations. I stayed in the Bastar area and did not travel elsewhere.

"I have been part of Naxal attacks on the police. We once killed a Special Police Officer and now I am one (laughs). I beat him with a danda ten times and then a commander slit his throat. He has since fled.

In the camp they give orders and tell you that today you have to kill. If they order you to kill, you have to do so. They allocate the duties during roll-call, you can't be scared, you have to carry out what they tell you. You have to do it.

I was once caught in a crossfire. We had gone for the mission in the night. It was during the elections and we had to plant a bomb, but the cops found it and defused it. I know how to make a bomb -- I know all types of bomb making. I know all the rules and regulations of the Naxals.

'I was scared, but slowly the fear receded'

When I was new in the camps, I was scared, but slowly the fear receded. I was scared that the men would do wrong deed with me. It never happened to me but it had happened to other girls. Not so much by the Bastar people, but these acts were done more by the Andhra people. It happened to one of my friends Meena by a man from Andhra. Nothing untoward happened to me. It also depends on how you conduct yourself.

When couples get married over there, they operate upon the boys so that women don't become pregnant. Some couples flee for this reason. In the dalam (squad), even if they are married, they go with other women also. They tell villagers that bigamy is not right and there was this commander who himself ran away with two wives. This is wrong.

They don't even give any money for the work they make you do. The commanders keep all the money and sometimes run away with it. Even if you ask they give you no money. They get crores of rupees. The leaders don't fight on the ground as we do. They don't do guard duty, their job is to go to villages and make sangathan (organisations) and hold meetings.

"When I saw that big leaders also leave the party themselves I realised that I shouldn't stay. Their ideology is wrong. Villagers work for them because they fear them, they fear for their lives.

The Naxalites say they have no desire for money, then why do they run away with the money? What are they struggling for then?

They say this struggle is for establishing their own government. They say they will wipe out the police and set up their own government. That our lives will improve, but I know that is untrue. It won't happen.

Those who work with them will also realise this sooner or later. Sometimes the villagers don't know that the Naxals are fighting with the police.

I wrote a letter telling them that I was not their enemy and left. That my sisters were alone and the other reason was that the other senior party leaders had abandoned and betrayed the party.

I returned to my village and they tried to woo me back. They sent me a letter asking me to come back, because I did a good job while there. They came back twice asking me to return. They wanted me to tell them the reasons for leaving and said I could then leave if I still wanted to.

Sujata, the secretary, sent me the letter. I went back and told them that I didn't want to work with them. After that they used to come to my village and abuse me saying that after being with them now I had left them.

I told them that others had also left in the past. Why should I be singled out? When the big leaders abandon the party no one questions them whereas I hadn't caused any harm to the party. When other senior leaders have also left the party, aren't they also wrong if I am wrong?

I left because what was the point of staying there when big leaders weren't themselves committed about staying in the movement. On one day they say they are struggling for the party, on the next day they are leaving. They tell us that we shouldn't leave the party, the consequences of leaving being death -- why don't they kill those big leaders who leave? They don't leave empty-handed, unlike us they take the money and run. In south Bastar there were two commanders who left, while I came from the lower rungs.

'We don't like the Andhrawallahs. They loot the Bastarwallahs'

We were from Bastar who did not know the ways of the big [Naxal] leaders from Andhra Pradesh.

The Andhrawallahs are more educated than the Bastarwallahs.

The Andhrawale teach party politics to villagers and they themselves leave the party and run away. Why do these leaders leave the party? There has to be some reason, some weakness in the party.

We, especially the girls, don't like the Andhrawale. They pressurise girls to get married. Some of these commanders extort money from their areas, get married and then run away with the money of Bastar to build a life in the city. They make fools of villagers here (in Bastar) who support them out of helplessness. The villagers wouldn't support them otherwise.

There was this senior area commander who left them. They caught and killed her. She was not an enemy of theirs but they killed her. If the Andhrawale leave they don't kill them, they only kill the Bastarwale.

The Andhrawale put our people on the frontlines and it is our people who get killed.

Andhrawale come and loot the Bastarwale. They extort money from villagers and tendu patta [used for making bidi] contractors and take the money away to Andhra. They haven't killed anyone from Andhra for doing this, they take no action against them. They would have killed anyone from Bastar for doing the same thing. They forcefully make villagers to work with them.

I came to know all this after I joined them. I wouldn't have gone to them had I known this.

Once you go there and return, there is a grave danger. I am not scared any more, it is behind me. They can kill me but how many times can you kill one person? I went there because I was not in the right mind.

"I took the decision to surrender myself and went to the police station. I told them it would be good if I got a job to get by. There was no point in me wandering in the jungles, away from my family. Once you join the party, you can't even come back home. I thought going to the police would be better.

I thought since I had studied till class VIII, at least I could get some job here. I now assist the police in operations. I also go for search operations with the police. I carry a rifle like them.

There are no other girls who go for patrols. I take the INSAS but that is not a very good gun, the SLR and 303 are better rifles. When I was there I used the 12 bore 303.

When the cops send me on patrol, I never refuse. I wear a commando uniform when I go. Even though I am a girl, I go wherever they ask me to. I am ready to work, even while I was with the Naxals I was willing, even here it's the same.

I just returned from a patrol two days ago. We were in the forest for ten days. We go half way in a vehicle and change the route and then go on foot patrol. They will blow our vehicles otherwise. The Naxalites do their own surveys. We didn't find anything on the last patrol.

Today is my rest day. My body is paining after walking for 10 days and nights. During the patrol we don't sleep, we keep walking. We live off the jungle and don't stop we can't stop in a Naxal area, otherwise they will attack us.

I also identify the Naxals. I know them all, the entire party. They (the Naxals) also know that now I am helping the police in identifying them.

'I don't fear death, they can kill me once, not everyday.'

'Now they are my enemies but what can I do?'

Now I want to be a sipahi (constable)). As an SPO I get Rs 3,600 and one room to stay. If I get a sipahi's job it will be better. 3,600 is very less, though senior police officers help me. To become a sipahi I have to give an exam since I gave up my studies long time ago I am not confident. I am confused.

I feel it would be good if I became a sipahi it would secure my future and I could look after my family. I would earn Rs 10,000 TO Rs 11,000 then.

'It is tough to defeat the Naxals'

It is tough to defeat them. You need a substantial and committed force. The policemen have their families, the Naxals don't, they only know how to fight the guerilla war.

The Naxals don't allow schools to be built why should schools be their enemy?

They tell the villagers that the police exploit them and rape their women. Naxalites also do wrong deeds. Not all but some do.

I wasn't scared while there nor here. I don't think about tomorrow. I only want a sipahi's job. They know about me that I go for patrols and identify them to the police. They think if any Naxal is caught, it is because I have told the police about him/her. Mine is the first suspicion they have. I wasn't scared when I was in the jungles so why should I be scared in the city?

'I have not thought about marriage'

There was another girl who surrendered with me. She is fairer than me. She is older than me, but looks younger, her face has the innocence of a child and she is more beautiful.

My aim is to secure a job first. If I go to my village, the villagers will beat me for joining the police because they are also Naxalites. We SPOs feel a lot of threats. I don't go to see my sisters because then the villagers will drive my sisters away. For my sister's sake I don't go there.

I haven't seen my sisters in 3, 4 years, I had stayed in my village after I came back -- before my surrender. I have no news of my sisters. I want to meet them but can't because if I go they will kill me. Now I will live my life alone, on my own.

 

[HariSeldon]

The naxals fight elections? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Why would they fight elections? Their entire ideology is based on fighting a parliamentary system of government. Why would they go against their own ideology? It's like me suggesting that those goose stepping RSS fascists should become Communist. Is that really going happen?

Its you who seems to be confused. You started with defending the massacre by ranting about the problems of Tribals. You defended saying that due to exploitation they are supporting Naxals and justified the massacre.
If Tribals are exploited, they could have chosen ballot in place of bullet. Its ppl like you who by defending this massacre making life of these tribals difficult.

Mining companies may not have been there before but that does not mean there wasnt oppression. You think the naxals have popular support only because of the mining deals signed by the government? Operation Greenhunt may be about Mining companies but the larger problem has to do with the complete and total neglect and the violence that these people have faced at the hands of the state.

Now its "maybe" time. having doubts about your beliefs?
I will repeat again. Those sitting in studio justifying this massacre could have helped these ppl in harnessing the power of ballot.
Which part of India is not neglected. For Tihri Dam whole towns has been relocated. Ppl living for generation has to be living there has to move out. And being India you know how fair deal they had got. If every body start using bullet, we would not be debating this in I-Net. We would be worrying for our azz or settling scores on street.

The Maoists don't support China. The original naxalite movement under Charu Majumdar may have, but right now China is a one party capitalist dictatorship that has rejected Maoist ideology and embraced capitalism. Why would a revolutionary peasant movement support it?

Think before you talk people.

Where from peasant comes in this movement? What are they exploited for? First Tribals, then peasant what next workers, unemployed youth?

That is indeed an assumption. But considering the chest thumping stupidity on display in this thread, not an incorrect one.

The truth is, the majority of us live in a bubble. We have all the comforts of the new India. The government more often than not works for us. We can't imagine a situation where a community would go against a government elected to represent them. There is a failure to understand the reasons for this conflict on all levels. Reading reports on poverty in these areas does not do it justice. It needs to be seen to be believed.

They could have elected one of there own. They choose to use gun.

Just imagine a place where there are no schools, no hospitals, no development to speak of, a place where day to day existence is extremely difficult, a place where a government only exists on paper and the elected representatives only visit once a year during election time. A place where landlords, in connivance with the police, rule the roost and engage in random acts of violence against you or your family. The land that you till is the only hope of survival. Now, after years, nay, decades of neglect, the government comes and tells you that you need to sell of your land to make way for an industry, and if you try to protest the police beats you up or puts you behind bars for being a Maoist. In such a place, why the hell won't someone pick up a gun to fight the government?

Visit Rajasthan where ppl have to travel KM's daily to get water. What they should be doing?
These all are excuse for justifying the voilance. There are other ways for addressing the problems in Democracy. If you don't agree, than simply you don't believe in Democracy. This make you one of them.

You might think this is an extreme situation and that it's not really as bad as this. You're right, its not as bad as this. It's worse. We have all read our History books which praise people like Bhagat Singh who tried to use violence against the government, albeit a foreign one, why is it then so difficult to understand the Tribal populations motivation to pick up a gun?

By the way, Bhagat Singh was also a communist.

No because they don;t allowed us to select our representative and those selected don't have enough powers.

No. Because when you break free from certain shackles placed on the mind in society, you are able to see through everything. This doesn't make me special, it is a result of the education that i have received.

Or because of brainwashing you have lost objectivity.

That is the reason that the government gives us. Any right thinking individual can see through it.

Or if he does not agree to you he is not "right thinking person"

I have been critical of the media's coverage of the terrorists attacks that resulted in casualties in the Taj in the past. However that does not mean i would disbar them from reporting on an issue.



Yes exactly. The media's dependence on corporates means that they cannot ever be critical of them. Fantastic, isnt it?



I'm not the one advocating a ban on the media. You are. All i want is a media that is unbiased it's coverage. Is that too much?



We shall see five years down the line whose assessment was accurate.

Naah...make that 2..max 3...This is BIG BIG mistake they have done. This will strenthen the resolve and make the Greenhunt more bloodier. And if you think they can take on state. LTTE is finished. TTP is fighting for survival. Even bloodshed in Punjab seems to be distant memories. They are fighing for survival in AP. These blood suckers don;t have support outside jungle. They will be buried in Jungle itself.

Do you not have the ability to read and think at the same time? I have been quite clear in putting forth my arguments.



Maoists propaganda? Hmmm, this is another major problem about this conflict. Every time someone is critical of the governments actions, he or she is called a Maoist sympathizer. The imprisonment of Dr Binayak Sen is an example of this.

To paraphrase a famous saying, "If i give money to the poor, they call me a saint. But if i ask why they are poor, they call me a Maoist"

Since you are new here, let me put it across to you simply. I am as critical of the Maoists as i am of the government. I believe that they have replaced the government as being an alternate power structure that is equally oppressive. I do not believe in their ideology of revolutionary violence. Any change for me must come through a democratic government that is accountable and not through violent mass movements that have a tendency to lead to autocratic oppressive states. This however does not mean that i cannot see thorough our governments BS, a government i helped elect i might add.

You reply says otherwise. You are justifying the non-democratic way of resolving the dispute.

The Maoists are not holding a gun to your head. On the contrary, it is the government which is holding a gun on the head of the tribals. This is not about you or your unwillingness "to surrender". Who do you think you are? Do you think this conflict is about you personally? Once again stop talking in empty rhetoric.

Wrong again. Govt was forced to use force. Forced by the Tribals supporting violence and ppl like you making tribals feeling right by justifying the violance.

No, it is under way because the government wants to activate dormant mining contracts.

And what's wrong with that. You can ask for compensation and resettlement. But saying that mining should not be done at all, think again. You will be living in dark. There will not be any electricity. Either thermal or hydro, somewhere some ppl have suffered, made compromises, so that you can justify the massacre on the forums.

I have already answered on question the maoists and elections. See above.

I am not equating the Maoists and the Government. I havent even talked of Maoists. All my posts have been essentially about Tribals. About why they are supporting the Maoists. I do however equate Maoist violence and state violence.

As far as accountability goes, one of the reasons that i am critical of the government is because i elected it, it should be accountable to the questions people like me put to it.

And you could have chosen other place, other time. You tried to justified the massacre. There is no justification for what happened.

Those tribals who are supporting Maoist could have selected one of there own to get there voice heard. Those who are defending the violence have helped tribals in the this journey.

 

[Nemesis]

Why is there such a huge disconnect between the common Tribal / Naxal and these BR-wannabes on ? Could part of the reason be that nearly all Indians on pak.def are considered the upper class (mostly Brahmins), and thus removed from the daily struggle to feed their and their children's mouths?! YES.

Stop bringing caste into the discussion. Everytime you post, you make yourself look stupid.

It is sad how you call for "revenge" and "blood" of these very same people who can barely survive, who must live day-to-day, not knowing if they will live to see tomorrow. With the rich / upper class of India treating their own down-stricken with contempt, how can you expect them to have any love for you???

It is difficult to accept the truth that we ourselves are the major source of the problem. Until these Brahmins can face their own skeletons, the struggle for a fair world will continue.

You have no idea what you're talking about. In an effort to back me up, you're essentially making my argument look dumb. I don't need your "insightful remarks" into the problem. This argument doesn't concern anti-Indian fools like you. Kindly stop posting.

 

[durgs360]

Where there is oppression there is resistance!!!!!

Proletarians of all countries , unite !!!!!!!!!!

This guy probably doesnt even know who is Che Guevara. Just typed Che guevara on google images, and took it as his avatar. His words are incoherent let alone make sense. Very typical of communist wannabe. These people dont even know how the world has changed. They are caught in perpetual time wrap. Still in Post war industrial Europe. They need a such a strong collective kick on their behind, they should fall in north pole.

 

[gpit]

Underprivileged? Earn money and become privileged, Isn't this your American Capitalist Fundamentals (only if u r an american)!

Communism/Stalin/Mao/Naxals and yes of-course Congress

Your system suppressed them their chance of making living... actually you suppressed their basic human rights of survival.

That's why they are Underprivileged.

We have social security. Even Katrina hurricane revealed such a destitute of the poor in New Orleans, they still have the basic necessaries to live. They still access to free food and free education. But your interest groups exploited them to the bear core, and their only chance is to be violent...

I'm telling you those undereducated: violent type of communism only survives in poor countries with only jungle laws.

 

[gpit]

You ought to be a deranged man! Who was Chairman Mao? He was Chinese and its a Known fact Chinese were and are involved in supporting and funding maoists who follow ideology of Mao which was basically Anti-India, so u have maoists! What doe Maoists mean?

Don't prove how Retarded u r by giving- logic such as Naxals dont speak Mandarin, so they can't be funded by Chinese!

........On the other hand leftist Communist and maoist traitors are fooling and brainwashing tribals, converting them into Followers of already Failed system called Communism! There are agents of china all over India propagating ideology which even China does not follow these days!

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So basically you are saying that China is a failed state because it follows communism? You want to prove you are retarded by saying India is more successful than China?

Even Mao is a Chinese, why there are no Maoist violence in China?

Perhaps you are true. But if China doesn't follow, how could its agents follow?

Somebody said these days don't try to find communists in China. There is none there. If you want to look for communists, come to Washington D.C.

So, maybe CIA is funding these Maoists.

 

[Vinashi_JagjitSinghArora]

So basically you are saying that China is a failed state because it follows communism? You want to prove you are retarded by saying India is more successful than China?

Even Mao is a Chinese, why there are no Maoist violence in China?

Perhaps you are true. But if China doesn't follow, how could its agents follow?

Somebody said these days don't try to find communists in China. There is none there. If you want to look for communists, come to Washington D.C.

So, maybe CIA is funding these Maoists.

Man you require basic level of intellect, your power of interpretation is even worse!!

By hiding behind American flag, your arguments prove where you actually hail from, no doubt only a fanboy from a true Failed State (not someone u hv mentioned) can spew such silly and ludicrous arguments!!