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7 killed in shooting on China-Vietnam border

HANOI—Seven people were killed Friday in a clash between Vietnamese border guards and migrants from China attempting to enter the country illegally who seized weapons from officers in a bid to avoid being sent home, Vietnamese authorities reported.
 
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Why there should be a violence in a border, if they are refugee, Vietnam can find third country to host them. Vietnam should treat them well. It is how a civilized nation act. Not realistic at all to believe that they fought and then shooted the guards. If they are accepted well in a border, there should be no shooting at all.

They are reason why some are called fanatics. They are brain washed by clerics. Do you really believe those involved in Bali 2002 bombing wil behaved well if you treat them well?

Anyway, RIP to innocent Vietnamese border guard killed. Death to the terrorist.
 
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Means China end? know that's your vietnam dream, always daydream, I kid, "old man", you are entering into a long long long dream, hehe!

You don't ask them why? so sad, crime must like your vietnam very much, impotent soldiers, of course, you also can know how your vietnam love your country when vietname rush to USAN ship and plane when American retreated from Viet.

Of course, you can help them, invite them to your land, hehe!



Next time?!!

I answered on your provocative troll about Indochina federation and when we have been just lost two soldier in this accident, when Uijgur came to Vietnam without necessary documents. Our soldiers taken care about them like other Chinese citizen, respect each to others as a human being. We don't foreseen that such people were very upset when we send them back to China.

some stupid Chinese would like this incident to troll on us. Such "impotent " soldiers have been kicked your *** in 1979.

In fact in Vietnam war we fought against France and USA for both Cambodia and Laos independence. let them rule themselves. We joined to ASEAN because we are part if it.

Unlike it in China you like to annex other people soil even though in modern time. Tibet, East Turkestan, Inner Mongolia and Manchuria declared Independence after collapsing of Man Qing Dynasty.
 
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I answered on your provocative troll about Indochina federation and when we have been just lost two soldier in this accident, when Uijgur came to Vietnam without necessary documents. Our soldiers taken care about them like other Chinese citizen, respect each to others as a human being. We don't foreseen that such people were very upset when we send them back to China.

some stupid Chinese would like this incident to troll on us. Such "impotent " soldiers have been kicked your *** in 1979.

In fact in Vietnam war we fought against France and USA for both Cambodia and Laos independence. let them rule themselves. We joined to ASEAN because we are part if it.

Unlike it in China you like to annex other people soil even though in modern time. Tibet, East Turkestan, Inner Mongolia and Manchuria declared Independence after collapsing of Man Qing Dynasty.
Seems your vietnamese in PDF is better than Chinese, mirror yourself first then point your finger at me, in PDF, how many constructive comments your vietnamese have made in the thread about China? and I don't find your vietnames like Chinese here, you can take care about Chinese citizen well? you should ask your soldiers whether they ask for money, OK,

You kick us in 1979?! funny, you forget our soldiers step on your land?! you impotent vietnamese men hide yourself, push your women forward, you think how good your soldiers are? you don't know, from little incident, we can get too much? you think they were good, not upset, well, terrorist like you vietnamese very much, maybe for you vietnamese, this is "good excuse".

You helped Cambodia and Laos, so what? prove they can became independent, all because of you viet? We and USSR also had help you vietnam for independence, so all credits to China and USSR? you want prove your soldiers suck or Laos and cambodian soldiers suck, or your soldiers good?
Or, because you help Laos and Cambodia, so you should build your indochina empire, and you vietnam should be leader? what do you want prove for?

You think you are popular in ASEAN? you had wanted to annex Thailand for you Indochina empire, In ASEAN, you are the only one Communist country, they Like you? you are part of ASEAN? hehe, you should keep it, don't make the daydream of "ASEAN will be part of Viet".

How much land we annex from other country? If we like to do that, we will not give you viet a island, and give almost half of Changbai Mountain to NK free? maybe you guys will says, that island had belonged to your viet, if that's true, all can prove one thing, we give back the island that had belonged to viet, but others not.

Even don't know the history of viet, here comment Chinese history, very ridiculous, you think your vietnamese is qualified comments us?
 
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Seems your vietnamese in PDF is better than Chinese, mirror yourself first then point your finger at me, in PDF, how many constructive comments your vietnamese have made in the thread about China? and I don't find your vietnames like Chinese here, you can take care about Chinese citizen well? you should ask your soldiers whether they ask for money, OK,

You kick us in 1979?! funny, you forget our soldiers step on your land?! you impotent vietnamese men hide yourself, push your women forward, you think how good your soldiers are? you don't know, from little incident, we can get too much? you think they were good, not upset, well, terrorist like you vietnamese very much, maybe for you vietnamese, this is "good excuse".

You helped Cambodia and Laos, so what? prove they can became independent, all because of you viet? We and USSR also had help you vietnam for independence, so all credits to China and USSR? you want prove your soldiers suck or Laos and cambodian soldiers suck, or your soldiers good?
Or, because you help Laos and Cambodia, so you should build your indochina empire, and you vietnam should be leader? what do you want prove for?

You think you are popular in ASEAN? you had wanted to annex Thailand for you Indochina empire, In ASEAN, you are the only one Communist country, they Like you? you are part of ASEAN? hehe, you should keep it, don't make the daydream of "ASEAN will be part of Viet".

How much land we annex from other country? If we like to do that, we will not give you viet a island, and give almost half of Changbai Mountain to NK free? maybe you guys will says, that island had belonged to your viet, if that's true, all can prove one thing, we give back the island that had belonged to viet, but others not.

Even don't know the history of viet, here comment Chinese history, very ridiculous, you think your vietnamese is qualified comments us?

your troll is fully with bullshxt. when you jumped in and troll and troll .

Turn back to topic. When such Chinese citizens came to Vietnam without necessary document, and there was no evident to to approve that they are terrorists. Our soldiers cared about them like other normal Chinese citizen, instructed politely them in to official office to say that base on our regulation we have to send them back to China,

When we don't have evident we can not say that they are terrorist and arrested them and putting in to prisoner car.

Look at the office where accident is happent.

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When you trolled that our soldier are "impotent" , but why superior Chinese security Police should let terrorists burnt in Tienanmen square and killed too many innocent Chinese people in Guangxi train station recently.

You are stupid boy..
 
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your troll is fully with bullshxt. when you jumped in and troll and troll .

Turn back to topic. When such Chinese citizens came to Vietnam without necessary document, and there was no evident to to approve that they are terrorists. we have to send them back to China,

Look at the office where accident is happent.

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When you trolled that our soldier are "impotent" , but why superior Chinese security Police should let terrorists burnt in Tienanmen square and killed too many innocent Chinese people in Guangxi train station recently.

You are stupid boy..
Such stupid vietnamese, accuse me for trolling, don't know what hiself did? from your irrelevant answer and response, I know why your soldiers are impotent, and you don't liked by ASEAN.
While accuse me for trolling, you can keep trolliing on China, and accusing China for killing "innocent" Chinese, how cruel China government and Chinese are!

You don't waste time here, I think, for your daydream of so-called "indochina federation", you have too much "job" to do, don't like Indian, talk too much shit, but short arm!
 
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Such stupid vietnamese, accuse me for trolling, don't know what hiself did? from your irrelevant answer and response, I know why your soldiers are impotent, and you don't liked by ASEAN.
While accuse me for trolling, you can keep trolliing on China, and accusing China for killing "innocent" Chinese, how cruel China government and Chinese are!

You don't waste time here, I think, for your daydream of so-called "indochina federation", you have too much "job" to do, don't like Indian, talk too much shit, but short arm!

How many Vietnamese killed by Chinese when you backed Khmer Rouge to attack on us from South after 1975 and Chinese themselves attacked us 1979.

Don't lie about Indochina federation, idiot.
 
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How many Vietnamese killed by Chinese when you backed Khmer Rouge to attack on us from South after 1975 and Chinese themselves attacked us 1979.

Don't lie about Indochina federation, idiot.
I lie about indochina federation?! hehe, the "indochina federation" is not originally from my mouth, why don't you ask your vietnamese and check your vietnamese comments?!

How many vietnamese killed?! why ask me?
Find your comment always skip here and there, hehe!
 
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A survey of our attitudes toward Uyghurs.


How Chinese Think About Terrorism | The Diplomat
A survey of Chinese attitudes in the wake of the March attack on Kunming.

By Dingding Chen and Ding Xuejie
April 19, 2014

On March 1, 2014, in the southwestern Chinese city of Kunming, a group of eight assailants dressed in black and armed with cleavers, daggers and other knivesbrutally ended the lives of 29 civilians and maimed 143 others at the city’s railway station. Xinhua News Agency announced within hours of the incident that it was “a terrorist attack carried out by Xinjiang separatist force,” authorities and witnesses said the attackers were Uyghurs, a Turkic ethnic minority Muslim group from northwestern China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region.

Uyghurs have long resented China’s Xinjiang policies of coercion, natural resources exploitation, and marginalization of their linguistic and religious tradition. Between 1990 to 2001, Xinjiang experienced more than 200 attacks, killing more than 160 people. The most terrifying incident took place more recently, on July 5, 2009, and left 184 dead and 1,680 injured. The Kunming attack is thus expected to enflame tensions between the Han Chinese and Uyghur ethnic groups, and signals that the conflict has spread from Xinjiang to the rest of China.

After the Kunming incident, my colleague Ding Xuejie at Oxford University and I conducted a survey of Mainland China civilians, aiming at understanding opinions and attitudes towards ethnic conflicts and government policies regarding Xinjiang and its Uyghur minorities. We sent out around 2,000 questionnaires via the Internet and within one week had received 1151 responses. Our respondents were from 30 provinces across the country. Their ages ranged from 17 to 72, with an average age of 33. If the respondents, 51 percent are male, 96.3 percent are Han Chinese, and 78.5 percent have received at least a college education.

Attitudes of Chinese civilians (especially Han Chinese) toward Xinjiang Uyghur after Kunming?

Partly because of widespread media reports, 99.5 percent of respondents answered yes to the question “Are you familiar with the Kunming incident?” In answering the question “Do you think similar incidents will also occur in the city where you live?” only 34 percent of the respondents chose “unlikely” or “impossible,” while approximately 50 percent thought it was “likely” or “very likely.” This result indicates that the spread of violence from Xinjiang to other parts of China has fostered an atmosphere of insecurity among Chinese; ordinary citizens have begun to fear for their safety.

But does this sense of insecurity provoke negative intergroup attitudes, especially prejudice regarding Uyghur minorities? Our results show that Chinese people do not equate Xinjiang separatists with Xinjiang civilians, even after Kunming. Eighty-seven percent of respondents agreed with the statement “Those who support terrorism in Xinjiang are only a small minority among Xinjiang civilians.” Among people who agree with this statement, the proportion of women is significantly higher than men, and the proportion of people who had college education or above is significantly higher than people who never went to college. No significant difference was observed between ethnic groups.

However, we found that the Kunming attack will likely have an economic cost for Xinjiang. Sixty-seven percent of respondents suggest that they would not work in or travel to Xinjiang. Significant differences were observed across genders, ethnic groups, and educational attainments. Women, Han and people without college degrees were more likely to report an unwillingness to work or travel in Xinjiang, compared with their counterparts.

How do Chinese people evaluate government policies towards the Xinjiang Uyghur minority?

Our questionnaire explores opinions on the sources of Uyghur discontent and ethnic conflict, and on Chinese economic, political, cultural, religion and language policies in Xinjiang. In terms of the sources of the unrest, it was common in the past to blame poverty as the root cause of insurgencies. People believed that ethnic conflict could be solved if only Uyghurs were offered greater economic benefits. However, substantial fiscal transfers to Xinjiang have not prevented ethnic discontent. The results of our data show that 66 percent of respondents do not agree with the statement that “Poverty is the source of Xinjiang terrorist violent attack.” More than 85 percent think foreign separatist forces and religious extremist forces are the main sources of Xinjiang terrorism. In addition, 96 percent of respondents think the government should step up its fight against terrorism, and 69 percent think that the current ethnic policies need to be modified.

In addition to questions on the sources of Xinjiang terrorism, we also asked how to solve ethnic conflicts in the short and long terms. We framed the questions in terms of economic development, language and cultural policy reform, religious policy reform, coercion, and negotiation. In both short-term and long-term solutions to the problem of Xinjiang terrorism, economic development has been considered by the majority respondents as the most important policy. This result apparently contradicts the answers to our previous question on the sources of unrest. On the one hand, 66 percent of respondents do not think economic backwardness is the source of ethnic conflict, while on the other respondents consider economic development an effective way of solving ethnic tensions in Xinjiang (50 percent in the short term and 67 percent in the long term).

As for whether the government should use force to suppress the unrest in the short run, opinion is polarized. In the short term, 28 percent of the respondents “strongly agree” with this measurement, while 40 percent “strongly disagree”; in the long term, 72 percent of respondents disagree with suppression by force. Negotiation (53 percent) has been considered the most effective way of solving the Xinjiang problem, in terms of both short- and long-term policy. This result suggests that most people understand that suppression cannot eliminate the root cause of the ethnic conflict.

Most respondents do not think that language and religious reform can solve the ethnic problem in Xinjiang. This suggests that Chinese people lack a comprehensive understanding of the problems in Xinjiang. Language is central to ethnic identity, and official language policies are often overlooked as critical factors in the conflict over ethnic nationalism. Han culture and Han Chinese is the mainstream culture of China, and Han people have an absolute advantage with their language and culture compared to the Uyghur minority. Thus, Uyghur minorities are at an absolute disadvantage in the labor market. This inequality in language and culture is thus a significant contributor to the ethnic conflict. Ignoring cultural and linguistic inequality only marginalizes more of Xinjiang’s ethnic minorities, and intensifies ethnic discontent. Religious factors, on the other hand, are the root of the conflict. Islam became the main religion in Xinjiang in the early 16th century. Pan-Turkism and Pan-Islamism, ideologies based on supranational, religious and ethnic identities, arrived in Xinjiang in the early 20th century. Under the influence of the pan-Turkism and pan-Islamism, the Xinjiang separatists and religious extremists started a movement to overthrow the Chinese Communist Party. Many scholars consequently see Pan-Turkism and Pan-Islamism as the religious and cultural origin of Xinjiang separatism. Current religious policy intensifies the ethnic conflict. Yet most Chinese overlook the importance of religious policy, while overestimating the effect of economic development.

To conclude, we explored Chinese opinions and attitudes towards the Kunming attack, and their ideas for solving ethnic conflicts in China. We found that with the violence spreading from Xinjiang to other Chinese regions, Chinese people have begun to fear for their safety, something that could affect social stability. On the other hand, after the incident, Han prejudice towards Uyghur has not grown, and thus Uyghur should not be further marginalized or isolated because of this attack. In terms of ethnic policies, respondents tend to overestimate the impact of economic development as a solution to ethnic conflict while placing less emphasis on religious, linguistic, and cultural policy combined with properly allocating resources between the Han majority and the Uyghur minority.

Dingding Chen is Assistant Professor of Government and Public Administration at The University of Macau. Ding Xuejie is a MA student in Sociology at Oxford University.
 
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I lie about indochina federation?! hehe, the "indochina federation" is not originally from my mouth, why don't you ask your vietnamese and check your vietnamese comments?!

How many vietnamese killed?! why ask me?
Find your comment always skip here and there, hehe!

hey,you troll on us in every circumstance you can, low educated chinese boy.
 
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hey,you troll on us in every circumstance you can, low educated chinese boy.
:-), don't find you are educated better than me, impotent vietnamese, hehe.

BTW, If speak of education background, you bet on you are higher than me?
 
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Tibet, East Turkestan, Inner Mongolia and Manchuria declared Independence after collapsing of Man Qing Dynasty.

Those greedy Lams were fickle since the Yuan Dynasty, their declaration of independence was expected~
Xinjiang was messed by a bunch of nationalists founded by the USSR yet the central government had cleared them out~
Most of the Inner Mongolian were fighting against the Japanese invasion, besides they never support the independence of outter Mongolia (not to mention outter Mongolian masscared most of the Golden Family)~
The Manchuguo was nothing but a joke~ The guerrillas of North-East of China founded by Manchurian and Han never rested during the Japanese occupation~
 
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:-), don't find you are educated better than me, impotent vietnamese, hehe.

BTW, If speak of education background, you bet on you are higher than me?

you troll disclosed that you you are low educated boy in China, read again all posts in this thread, some chinese said " R.I.P' to the soldier, who lost his life in this accident. Such Chinese could have more education than you.

one more question for you: how many Chinese police and innocent people were killed in Xinjiang and Guangxi recently ? all of them are impotent ?. Think more kid.
 
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you troll disclosed that you you are low educated boy in China, read again all posts in this thread, some chinese said " R.I.P' to the soldier, who lost his life in this accident.

one more question for you: how many Chinese police and innocent people were killed in Xinjiang and Guangxi recently ? all of them are impotent ?. Think more kid.
:coffee:,
 
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