What's new

5 reasons why Afghanistan blames Pakistan.

Kompromat

ADMINISTRATOR
Joined
May 3, 2009
Messages
40,366
Reaction score
416
Country
Pakistan
Location
Australia
5 reasons why Afghanistan blames Pakistan.

13-8-2015
by - Horus

5: There are elements within the Afghan security services like NDS who are more loyal to RAW than to the Afghan state. NDS is packed with Tajik and Uzbeks who are now living without the fat doll outs given to them by American taxpayers, that is where Indians come in to cop the bill. United States has refused to fund NDS after figuring out that it was nothing more than a nexus built to torture uncooperative Pukhtoon detainees who can be called Taliban without any evidence and tortured to an inch of their lives. India therefore has leverage on NDS which they utilize to blame Pakistan for the failures of Afghan state and to keep the pressure on Pakistan from two sides. People like Amarullah Saleh reflect that mindset.

4: Afghanistan's national unity govt in Kabul is built on a fragile ground. The cabinet and the houses of parliament are in the firm control of former northern alliance therefore it is challenging for a leader like Ashraf Ghani to balance the scales without being ousted by his own parliament. Blaming Pakistan keeps the 'house in order'.

3: Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) which were raised by the Americans, were basically a re branded force packed with anti Pukhtoon Northern Alliance forces who fought for the foreign invasion forces in 2001 and were retrained and equipped by NATO and later ISAF. Now they are losing battle to the Afghan Taliban insurgents in a number of areas. According the the US military command, the ANSF is now losing up to 4000 soldiers a month due to demoralization, drug addiction and going AWOL (Absent With Out Leave). Pointing fingers at Pakistan saves Kabul the trouble to actually scrutinize its own security services.

2: Blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan's troubles makes Afghanistan look like a united country and makes Afghan National Unity Govt much more stronger and united than it really is. This is only ONE issue where even Ghani, Abdullah and Karzai agree. So in other words one anti Pakistan statement is all that is needed to make the ANUG look united and give a false sense of political normality. It also helps curb dissent and pacify those ranks in the military who would forcefully remove a Pukhtoon president who takes a much more reasonable line towards relations with Pakistan.

1: Blaming Pakistan keeps Afghan public sentiment in order. Like it or not, the Afghans have hated Pakistan much more than India has ever hated Pakistan since 1947. Afghans refused to accept Pakistan as a sovereign state, voted against its UN membership in 1948, joined up with KGB to create a violent insurgency in Balochistan in 1970s, fired Scud missiles into Pakistan and tried to create another insurgency in Khyber Pukhtoonkhuwa.

Even today all of the top terrorists Pakistan wants from Mullah Fazlullah who ordered to assassinate Pakistan's nobel peace laureate Mallala Yousafzai and orchestrated the APS massacre of 139 Pakistani children in a Peshawar school to Dr. Allah Nazar, the chief of BLF which carried out the Turbat massacre of 25 Pakistani laborers among other top terrorists are all hiding in Afghanistan with full assistance of NDS and RAW. Balach Marri the head of BLA who ran to Afghanistan after assassinating Akbar Bugti was also killed in Gramshar area in Helmand Afghanistan.

The top financier of TTP Latif-ullah-Mehsood (now in ISI custody) who was snatched by US SEALs from NDS protection in Afghanistan and TTP's spokesperson Shahid ullah Shahid was also killed in a US drone strike in Afghanistan. Therefore it is much easier and quicker to issue anti Pakistani tirade on the media to let Afghans come on the streets, burn some Pakistani flags, chant death to Pakistan, blame all of their troubles on Pakistan and discuss plans on how to expand Afghan territory to the Indus river, than to actually admit the fact that the Afghan state due to its internal fragility and incompetence has failed to protect its own citizens and is instead busy blaming a foreign country which always comes to its aid in order to create a false sense of political unity and control over state affairs. This is an unfortunate juncture where two Muslim states bite up and become a laughing stock to Hindustan.
 
Last edited:
.
5 reasons why Afghanistan blames Pakistan.

13-8-2015
by - Horus

5: There are elements within the Afghan security services like NDS who are more loyal to RAW than to the Afghan state. NDS is packed with Tajik and Uzbeks who are now living without the fat doll outs given to them by American taxpayers, that is where Indians come in to cop the bill. United States has refused to fund NDS after figuring out that it was nothing more than a nexus built to torture uncooperative Pukhtoon detainees who can be called Taliban without any evidence and tortured to an inch of their lives. India therefore has leverage on NDS which they utilize to blame Pakistan for the failures of Afghan state and to keep the pressure on Pakistan from two sides. People like Amarullah Saleh reflect that mindset.

4: Afghanistan's national unity govt in Kabul is built on a fragile ground. The cabinet and the houses of parliament are in the firm control of former northern alliance therefore it is challenging for a leader like Ashraf Ghani to balance the scales without being ousted by his own parliament. Blaming Pakistan keeps the 'house in order'.

3: Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) who were raised by the Americans were basically a re branded force packed with anti Pukhtoon Northern Alliance forces who fought for the foreign invasion forces in 2001 and were retrained and equipped by NATO and later ISAF. Now they are losing battle to the Afghan Taliban insurgents. According the the US military command, the ANSF is now losing up to 4000 soldiers a month due to demoralization, drug addiction and going AWOL (Absent With Out Leave). Pointing fingers at Pakistan saves Kabul the trouble to actually scrutinize its own security services.

2: Blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan's troubles makes Afghanistan look like a united country and makes Afghan National Unity Govt much more stronger and united than it really is. This is only ONE issue where even Ghani, Abdullah and Karzai agree. So in other words one anti Pakistan statement is all that is needed to make the ANUG look united and give a false sense of political normality. It also helps curb dissent and pacify those ranks in the military who would forcefully remove a Pukhtoon president who takes a much more reasonable line towards relations with Pakistan.

1: Blaming Pakistan keeps Afghan public sentiment in order. Like it or not, the Afghans have hated Pakistan much more than India has ever hated Pakistan since 1947. Afghans refused to accept Pakistan as a sovereign state, voted against its UN membership in 1948, joined up with KGB to create a violent insurgency in Balochistan in 1970s, fired Scud missiles into Pakistan and tried to create another insurgency in Khyber Pukhtoonkhuwa.

Even today all of the top terrorists Pakistan wants from Mullah Fazlullah who ordered to assassinate Pakistan's nobel peace laureate Mallala Yousafzai and orchestrated the APS massacre of 139 Pakistani children in a Peshawar school to Dr. Allah Nazar, the chief of BLF which carried out the Turbat massacre of 25 Pakistani laborers among other top terrorists are all hiding in Afghanistan with full assistance of NDS and RAW.

The top financier of TTP Latif-ullah-Mehsood who was snatched by US SEALs from NDS protection in Afghanistan and TTP's spokesperson Shahid ullah Shahid was also killed in a US drone strike in Afghanistan. Therefore it is much easier and quicker to issue anti Pakistani tirade on the media to let Afghans come on the streets, burn some Pakistani flags, chant death to Pakistan, blame all of their troubles on Pakistan and discuss plans on how to expand Afghan territory to the Indus river, than to actually admit the fact that the Afghan state due to its internal fragility and incompetence has failed to protect its own citizens and is instead busy blaming a foreign country which always comes to its aid in order to create a false sense of political unity and control over state affairs. This is an unfortunate juncture where two Muslim states bite up and become a laughing stock to Hindustan.
wow, at the time Afghanistan hated Pakistan. now the tides are changing, but it needs more of a push though.

what do you think would change afganistans perception of Pakistan? @Horus
 
.
It could also have something to do with the fact that we treat their country as our own playground, manipulate their political situation, and create havoc by supporting the Taliban. Just a thought. I might be wrong.
 
.
It could also have something to do with the fact that we treat their country as our own playground, manipulate their political situation, and create havoc by supporting the Taliban. Just a thought. I might be wrong.
you can be right there . and welcome:welcome::pdf:
 
. .
Valid points on why they blame us but i would just like to add. It is highly doubtful the Americans will leave Afghanistan. which in turn means the Taliban will not take over Kabul. The current afghan government is the sort of governments we will have to deal with. All we have to do is secure the western border. the Indians have got what they wanted..our complete attention on the western border as well.
My only concern is, is there a remote possibility of Indian troops helping the afghan troops against the Taliban?
5 reasons why Afghanistan blames Pakistan.

13-8-2015
by - Horus

5: There are elements within the Afghan security services like NDS who are more loyal to RAW than to the Afghan state. NDS is packed with Tajik and Uzbeks who are now living without the fat doll outs given to them by American taxpayers, that is where Indians come in to cop the bill. United States has refused to fund NDS after figuring out that it was nothing more than a nexus built to torture uncooperative Pukhtoon detainees who can be called Taliban without any evidence and tortured to an inch of their lives. India therefore has leverage on NDS which they utilize to blame Pakistan for the failures of Afghan state and to keep the pressure on Pakistan from two sides. People like Amarullah Saleh reflect that mindset.

4: Afghanistan's national unity govt in Kabul is built on a fragile ground. The cabinet and the houses of parliament are in the firm control of former northern alliance therefore it is challenging for a leader like Ashraf Ghani to balance the scales without being ousted by his own parliament. Blaming Pakistan keeps the 'house in order'.

3: Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) who were raised by the Americans were basically a re branded force packed with anti Pukhtoon Northern Alliance forces who fought for the foreign invasion forces in 2001 and were retrained and equipped by NATO and later ISAF. Now they are losing battle to the Afghan Taliban insurgents. According the the US military command, the ANSF is now losing up to 4000 soldiers a month due to demoralization, drug addiction and going AWOL (Absent With Out Leave). Pointing fingers at Pakistan saves Kabul the trouble to actually scrutinize its own security services.

2: Blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan's troubles makes Afghanistan look like a united country and makes Afghan National Unity Govt much more stronger and united than it really is. This is only ONE issue where even Ghani, Abdullah and Karzai agree. So in other words one anti Pakistan statement is all that is needed to make the ANUG look united and give a false sense of political normality. It also helps curb dissent and pacify those ranks in the military who would forcefully remove a Pukhtoon president who takes a much more reasonable line towards relations with Pakistan.

1: Blaming Pakistan keeps Afghan public sentiment in order. Like it or not, the Afghans have hated Pakistan much more than India has ever hated Pakistan since 1947. Afghans refused to accept Pakistan as a sovereign state, voted against its UN membership in 1948, joined up with KGB to create a violent insurgency in Balochistan in 1970s, fired Scud missiles into Pakistan and tried to create another insurgency in Khyber Pukhtoonkhuwa.

Even today all of the top terrorists Pakistan wants from Mullah Fazlullah who ordered to assassinate Pakistan's nobel peace laureate Mallala Yousafzai and orchestrated the APS massacre of 139 Pakistani children in a Peshawar school to Dr. Allah Nazar, the chief of BLF which carried out the Turbat massacre of 25 Pakistani laborers among other top terrorists are all hiding in Afghanistan with full assistance of NDS and RAW.

The top financier of TTP Latif-ullah-Mehsood who was snatched by US SEALs from NDS protection in Afghanistan and TTP's spokesperson Shahid ullah Shahid was also killed in a US drone strike in Afghanistan. Therefore it is much easier and quicker to issue anti Pakistani tirade on the media to let Afghans come on the streets, burn some Pakistani flags, chant death to Pakistan, blame all of their troubles on Pakistan and discuss plans on how to expand Afghan territory to the Indus river, than to actually admit the fact that the Afghan state due to its internal fragility and incompetence has failed to protect its own citizens and is instead busy blaming a foreign country which always comes to its aid in order to create a false sense of political unity and control over state affairs. This is an unfortunate juncture where two Muslim states bite up and become a laughing stock to Hindustan.
 
.
@Horus to me the main reason is they don't want to see or they hate the fact that Pakistan is enjoying a time of peace & stability, while they r still rocked by violence, which their own security establishment is unable to bring under control hence they r alway looking for escape goat..satisfying those anti Pak elements, which lets admit r more vocal then Pro Pakistan section
 
Last edited:
.
I am personally looking forward to a day when Modi lands his troops in Afghanistan.

Valid points on why they blame us but i would just like to add. It is highly doubtful the Americans will leave Afghanistan. which in turn means the Taliban will not take over Kabul. The current afghan government is the sort of governments we will have to deal with. All we have to do is secure the western border. the Indians have got what they wanted..our complete attention on the western border as well.
My only concern is, is there a remote possibility of Indian troops helping the afghan troops against the Taliban?
 
.
I am personally looking forward to a day when Modi lands his troops in Afghanistan.
you keep looking forward, but modi isnt. he's keeping back.
really, indian troops in Afghanistan. thats only going to happen in a fantasy
 
. . .
Point taken.

What will positive solution for both Pakistan and Afghanistan? Afghanis' hatred toward Pakistan must stopped at all costs.
 
. . . .

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom