5 Points in developing Pakistan

[Darth Vader]

Pakistan is currently going through the longest period of Democracy since independence ,
and Pakistani economy has just gone worse and worse and haven't seen any major work for the welfare of whole Pakistan.
CEPC is sponsored by China so its a Gods gift to Pakistan ( Wont blame PMLN , how they handled it ).

Previous governments did not start any long term projects which wouldn't have been completed in there tenure .

So i was thinking Civilian Governments start 5 Major Projects which should always be in work no matter who is in government as it will set a long term goals for the nations interest.

1 Infrastructure

2 Health Care , Justice system & Education.

3 Cash economy

4 Planned country development

5 Building Regional Industry

So for me if Pakistani government ( current and future ) start working on these projects on some level it might take less money if a systematic approach it will take country to new level let me expand on these 5 points

1 Infrastructure

Biggest hinder is moving inventory of smaller farmers , small handicrafts suppliers , small meat , food suppliers to bigger markets which than can provide these things to country and external markets
Pakistan market is capable of becoming one of the biggest exporter of food , dairy , meat product if a proper fast transport system is in place so need new regional hubs which can transfer these items to bigger hubs and export to international market
So you need network of good conditions roads , Trains , Ships , boats working in progress.

2 Health Care , Justice system & Education

These 3 sectors need major work , government need to re check the infrastructure , equipment , personal available and out reach of these departments .
Pakistani schools redesigned with modern equipment offer Sports scholarships , local city governments supporting these young athletes . Gym , swimming pools , Marital arts
as this will build more jobs as well , it help build a routine for these young minds local sports festivals , matches against other cities will build local heros so that will motivate more young people to follow them instead of going for crime .
Pakistan education system need to be redesigned as well its too much for a child.
Government can ask local people to invest in schools as well rather than having too many high paying Private schools . a criteria should be set a for private schools as well and a specific numbers of private schools and gov invest directly into public schools
provide free of cost Healthy Food , sports equipment , Books and Notebooks ( laptops )
after they are 14 so they start using Tech at small age but not too young, as that can limit the growth as well.
Proper Fast and cheap Internet Services its the base of everything , less tax on IT equipment will build IT services e.g Graphics Animation ,Gaming , Call centers , Program development it will directly everything in country
E.G Sweden Education system
Honestly i think it will be better to create a new organization rather than making current police work. it will be cheaper set a standard make sure all personal who are out have body cam on them always when they are out so that will give police and civilian protection and record of everything, using computerised records instead of file and so its accessible everywhere .
Local Hospital with connecting Regional hubs , so doctors can cover other areas and people in smaller cities have dedicated spots open for them in bigger hospitals.
Government can support people to start local help projects as well e.g transporting goods , small easier payable loans
this will make tons of new industries .

3 Cash economy

Most transactions in Pakistan happen through cash so its much harder to keep a eye on the source of income.
Government must set a minimum wage for the country. than move to cashless economy by pushing banks to skip debit card payment system to mobile tap payment system so that will be save money in trying to update a platform which is already outdated.
must set a limit on Cash transactions as well as cash takeouts from ATM.
Make sure all employers pay only through Banks and all business transactions must go through Banks no matter how small they are .

4 Planned country Development
Pakistan is facing a major housing crisis , cities are not developed properly , people don't have homes . and development is eating areas which should have been used for developing dairy , food and other industries.
Pakistan needs to move major chunk of Punjab as its has already grown too much , Need planned development which takes burden off from bigger cities , or Export areas.
Pakistan has tons of land which can be used but no body is using it make new regional hubs, develop new inter connected smaller cities which have enough labour which can build new industries in those areas.
Setting a limit in punjab growth moving these people to other provinces as it make country more diverse . share and expand local handicrafts to other regions . Punjab and Sindh set development of Food , Dairy at bigger scale Pakistan is expanding at fast rate have majority of its population is young they need to use them because they need to feed them if Pakistan does not set a proper oversight on the growth of cities it will just destroy these beautiful green lush lands.

5 Building regional industry
Pakistan has few local industries but no body knows about them anymore they were one of the biggest exporter of leather goodes , textile , cutlery , wood work but now nobody knows about them
Pakistan should help these local industry with out reach programs help them send these products to international market at cheaper shipping rates since Pakistan has low labour cost they will provide high quality material and decent price by buyers use paypal and similar methods can make good money.
Problem as i said Pakistan does not have a system which can transport these goodies from small craftsman ship to bigger cities in other countries.


I maybe wrong but its just a suggestion if even a little counties work is down on these it will change country rapidly.
Govs should set smaller goals in these projects and try to achieve them , people will get benchmarks what governments were doing and should the elect them or not

@BHarwana

 

[BHarwana]

Pakistan is currently going through the longest period of Democracy since independence ,
and Pakistani economy has just gone worse and worse and haven't seen any major work for the welfare of whole Pakistan.
CEPC is sponsored by China so its a Gods gift to Pakistan ( Wont blame PMLN , how they handled it ).

Previous governments did not start any long term projects which would have been wouldn't have been completed in there tenure .

So i was thinking Civilian Governments start 5 Major Projects which should always be in work no matter who is in government as it will set a long term goals for the nations interest.

1 Infrastructure

2 Health Care , Justice system & Education.

3 Cash economy

4 Planned country development

5 Building Regional Industry

So for me if Pakistani government ( current and future ) start working on these projects on some level it might take less money if a systematic approach it will take country to new level let me expand on these 5 points

1 Infrastructure

Biggest hinder is moving inventory of smaller farmers , small handicrafts suppliers , small meat , food suppliers to bigger markets which than can provide these things to country and external markets
Pakistan market is capable of becoming one of the biggest exporter of food , dairy , meat product if a proper fast transport system is in place so need new regional hubs which can transfer these items to bigger hubs and export to international market
So you need network of good conditions roads , Trains , Ships , boats working in progress.

2 Health Care , Justice system & Education

These 3 sectors need major work , government need to re check the infrastructure , equipment , personal available and out reach of these departments .
Pakistani schools redesigned with modern equipment offer Sports scholarships , local city governments supporting these young athletes . Gym , swimming pools , Marital arts
as this will build more jobs as well , it help build a routine for these young minds local sports festivals , matches against other cities will build local heros so that will motivate more young people to follow them instead of going for crime .
Pakistan education system need to be redesigned as well its too much for a child.
Government can ask local people to invest in schools as well rather than having too many high paying Private schools . a criteria should be set a for private schools as well and a specific numbers of private schools and gov invest directly into public schools
provide free of cost Healthy Food , sports equipment , Books and Notebooks ( laptops )
after they are 14 so they start using Tech at small age but not too young, as that can limit the growth as well.
Proper Fast and cheap Internet Services its the base of everything , less tax on IT equipment will build IT services e.g Graphics Animation ,Gaming , Call centers , Program development it will directly everything in country
E.G Sweden Education system
Honestly i think it will be better to create a new organization rather than making current police work. it will be cheaper set a standard make sure all personal who are out have body cam on them always when they are out so that will give police and civilian protection and record of everything, using computerised records instead of file and so its accessible everywhere .
Local Hospital with connecting Regional hubs , so doctors can cover other areas and people in smaller cities have dedicated spots open for them in bigger hospitals.
Government can support people to start local help projects as well e.g transporting goods , small easier payable loans
this will make tons of new industries .

3 Cash economy

Most transactions in Pakistan happen through cash so its much harder to keep a eye on the source of income.
Government must set a minimum wage for the country. than move to cashless economy by pushing banks to skip debit card payment system to mobile tap payment system so that will be save money in trying to update a platform which is already outdated.
must set a limit on Cash transactions as well as cash takeouts from ATM.
Make sure all employers pay only through Banks and all business transactions must go through Banks no matter how small they are .

4 Planned country Development
Pakistan is facing a major housing crisis , cities are not developed properly , people don't have homes . and development is eating areas which should have been used for developing dairy , food and other industries.
Pakistan needs to move major chunk of Punjab as its has already grown too much , Need planned development which takes burden off from bigger cities , or Export areas.
Pakistan has tons of land which can be used but no body is using it make new regional hubs, develop new inter connected smaller cities which have enough labour which can build new industries in those areas.
Setting a limit in punjab growth moving these people to other provinces as it make country more diverse . share and expand local handicrafts to other regions . Punjab and Sindh set development of Food , Dairy at bigger scale Pakistan is expanding at fast rate have majority of its population is young they need to use them because they need to feed them if Pakistan does not set a proper oversight on the growth of cities it will just destroy these beautiful green lush lands.

5 Building regional industry
Pakistan has few local industries but no body knows about them anymore they were one of the biggest exporter of leather goodes , textile , cutlery , wood work but now nobody knows about them
Pakistan should help these local industry with out reach programs help them send these products to international market at cheaper shipping rates since Pakistan has low labour cost they will provide high quality material and decent price by buyers use paypal and similar methods can make good money.
Problem as i said Pakistan does not have a system which can transport these goodies from small craftsman ship to bigger cities in other countries.


I maybe wrong but its just a suggestion if even a little counties work is down on these it will change country rapidly.
Govs should set smaller goals in these projects and try to achieve them , people will get benchmarks what governments were doing and should the elect them or not

@BHarwana

First step should be to recognise the problem in Pakistan economic development and then removing that problem to make the progress.

 

[bananarepublic]

my five points would be

1.food security for all
2.basic employment
3.Uniform Education System(while also restructuring Urdu into a simpler form and integrating it with other local languages by adding new words from punjabi,balochi,pushto etc)
4.Basic Security for all
5.decentralized provincial powers (more powers to local councils) .

 

[Darth Vader]

my five points would be

1.food security for all
2.basic employment
3.Uniform Education System(while also restructuring Urdu into a simpler form and integrating it with other local languages by adding new words from punjabi,balochi,pushto etc)
4.Basic Security for all
5.decentralized provincial powers (more powers to local councils) .

These 5 points fulfill these things directly
it will create employment on new scale ,
Pakistan doesnt waste it food resources and actually increase its capacity , as with this less will be wasted.
with overhaul of justice system it will provide security and swift justice.
With newer tons in less populated areas it will do that

First step should be to recognise the problem in Pakistan economic development and then removing that problem to make the progress.

Pakistan has been lacking that forsight for some time , every new gov blames older one so its a cycle of destruction thats why they need a set of goals for every government to must work on where people can actually see work in progress , when people have security of house , food , and education you will see them fighting them bigger issues currently they are just trying to survive one step at a time

 

[BHarwana]

These are good suggestions but can you please bring them on a bit micro level and in ground and more detailed?

 

[Darth Vader]

These are good suggestions but can you please bring them on a bit micro level and in ground and more detailed?

tons of smaller cities does not have good enough Roads so they are not easily accessible so good stays in isolated regions with quick government building roads to every corner of Pakistan it will connect the country to itself.
Mid Tier Cities work as Small scale regional hubs which are connected with Railways are other means of transport provide warehouses and industry which can process that item to bigger hubs and companies or government can buy a ready product as it will increase the price and processing of food will be handled from very start so that will increase its shelf life and instead being waste Pakistan can Ship that to bigger markets and decent prices rather than sending raw materials. Includes Food , Dairy , Minerals , Gems list goes on .
Fast and Secure transport system will increase jobs as well and processing all these things will build new sector so it will expand jobs in smaller cities instead of people moving to bigger cities.
Bigger cities will work as regional hubs for smaller hubs connecting every smaller village , town to other Pakistan
will increase flow of goods , knowledge as well.
Bigger Cities work as Industrial hubs

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Will add bit more later

 

[ALi Rizwan]

So i was thinking Civilian Governments start 5 Major Projects which should always be in work no matter who is in government as it will set a long term goals for the nations interest.
@BHarwana

Sir although your intention is good but for anything either health, education, infrastructure, Agriculture etc you need money and our current operating expense is higher then Revenue & don't forget our basic need WATER most important for our survival.

So a First & Most important issue should be
Divert all resources on Mega Dams 5~6 in first phase. Cheap electricity and Water
Reduce Govt. staff and Reduce their Salaries & privatize all entities(To Locals) which are not making profit & harsh and across the broad punishment for all corrupt.
It is no way to reduce unemployment by offering few Govt Jobs. which only benefit few hundred or thousand but whole country suffer because of their losses.

Pakistan is not high end exporter instead its low cost and only cheap energy can make our industries competitive internationally.

 

[Darth Vader]

Sir although your intention is good but for anything either health, education, infrastructure, Agriculture etc you need money and our current operating expense is higher then Revenue & don't forget our basic need WATER most important for our survival.

So a First & Most important issue should be
Divert all resources on Mega Dams 5~6 in first phase. Cheap electricity and Water
Reduce Govt. staff and Reduce their Salaries & privatize all entities(To Locals) which are not making profit & harsh and across the broad punishment for all corrupt.
It is no way to reduce unemployment by offering few Govt Jobs. which only benefit few hundred or thousand but whole country suffer because of their losses.

Pakistan is not high end exporter instead its low cost and only cheap energy can make our industries competitive internationally.

I dont think you actually got what i was trying to say
This more of a continuous project rather than job for one Goverment cotniues work on these sectors

Laying off just everybody wont help , Pakistan needs selectic apporach go after those people who were given those jobs for politics by political parties

As for the the Pakistan doesnt export much thats what i m trying to say build a road map build warehouses , production plants at smaller scale it will be much cheaper build local labour increase production at grass route level.

Plan those project which help that region according to there specialty instea of forcing something new .


These projects at smaller level and continues investment wont take that much and will be easy on the banks .

Problem isnt money but misuse of those funds

Bring local people in , give them option to expand that smaller business to big world
Offer incentives for free shipping for small companies , bring e payment methods , so they can send items to international market at smaller scale by opening them to ali baba , amazon , ebay , PayPal into Pakistani market
They will get in paid in £€¥$ which Pakistan badly needs

 

[American Pakistani]

Pakistan have easy potential to convert into fruit capital of the world. Why don't govt provide soft loans to people who set up fruit farm in locations like Chitral, Hunza, Swat, Kaghan, etc. They can export it to neighboring China, Afghanistan, Central Asia and even to Russia and Iran. Easy income for people living in those areas. Plus they don't have such crises of water shortage.

Steps should also be taken to look towards generating electricity and usable water from sea instead of relying on rivers that is currently gifting India easy leverage to control the agricultural economy of Pakistan.

Sir although your intention is good but for anything either health, education, infrastructure, Agriculture etc you need money and our current operating expense is higher then Revenue & don't forget our basic need WATER most important for our survival.

So a First & Most important issue should be
Divert all resources on Mega Dams 5~6 in first phase. Cheap electricity and Water
Reduce Govt. staff and Reduce their Salaries & privatize all entities(To Locals) which are not making profit & harsh and across the broad punishment for all corrupt.
It is no way to reduce unemployment by offering few Govt Jobs. which only benefit few hundred or thousand but whole country suffer because of their losses.

Pakistan is not high end exporter instead its low cost and only cheap energy can make our industries competitive internationally.

Do you know Pakistan's minimum wage is way higher in the region. Plus the gasoline/petrol price is one of the lowest in the world...why?

Pakistan import gasoline/oil, so prices should be high for non business consumers. Actually instead of granting subsidy, govt should make non business consumers pay at least some part for business consumers. This will not only help reduce imports, but also reduce govt subsidy burden and will force people to use public transport or bicycle. This will also reduce pollution and reduce traffic on roads helping govt to save cost of road repair. Smooth transport of business trucks will save them time and money both making business more profitable which can bring more business groups to invest and provide jobs.

Furthermore, car industries established for more than 2decades, should be forced to exports cars made/assembled in Pakistan, at least the same numbers that they sell to pakistani consumers.

 

[Darth Vader]

One thing is beyond me why isnt any Goverment doing promoting renewable energy sources on local level.
Why isnt Pakistan lowering taxes on solar energy systems with the help of china Pakistan can introduce quality solar panels at cheaper rates in market people will switch to that instead of using GAS , and petrol for energy generation and sur plus electricity can be added to grid as well so that would have add surplus energy which pakistan can use or sell that.
Lower consumption of gas & petrol can be diverted to industry and less import of gas and petrol
Goverment Build than be converted to green energy

Better for environment , less import , cheaper in long term , local industry can provide cheaper price which than can be exported to other 3rd world countries

@American Pakistani

 

[ALi Rizwan]

I dont think you actually got what
i was trying to say........
They will get in paid in £€¥$ which Pakistan badly needs

Sir your borrowed money is gone. How you expect to maintain your House exp if you don't have money to run daily exp. Not to forget Govt. has finally realized dam is life/death situation so forget improvement in anything else.
Your Govt. pay much more then they deserve mostly for nothing.
Second the working need to change from paper to computer from 10 desk to 1 window operation. i have seen how govt. department works.
Govt. job is not to create job but to facilitate it and laying off incompetent and extra work force will help Govt. to divert fund to promote business activity and social welfare.
e.g.
In 2003 on Govt. run entity employee get 50~60k / month to type a letter and that job we beyond his capability.
PIA & Turkish air has same employee number but huge different is size of fleet & Operation.
Karachi Steel mill liability is more then its assets. Mill expired huge losses.

We already have factories, warehouse, skilled labour and they are closed or ON & OFF working. Do you know why??? Cost of production is too high i.e. electricity to run a mill.

& small player can't compete in highly competitive and costly business.
Few textile business companies who had shown growth are all big player.
Practical small business(i.e. handmade item etc) are too small to make any dent.

Misuse of funds is not an issue at the moment because we don't have fund. not to forget circular debt and int. loan.
Any practical thing would be too buy local/preferred local on imported one including for those abroad.

Pakistan have easy potential to convert into fruit capital of the world......
Furthermore, car industries established for more than 2decades, should be forced to exports cars made/assembled in Pakistan, at least the same numbers that they sell to pakistani consumers.

Agri has huge potential because our method and machinery belong to ancient time.
Either farmer too smaller or Wadaira.
Not only this you need too improve distribution and storage(which is only limited to some areas)
we can also save water but implementing efficient method but it will cost high.

Sea is expensive and our agri sector enjoy free water canal for other yes saudi are doing that it would be expensive but feasible.
Because we are not constructing dam give them excuse and you can get contol water by building dam india can stop water only for limited time but once dam full you have too released it.

Local transport can't cover anything that is where problem arises.
e.g. Metro is dedicated 2 lane for Metro Bus mostly that road is empty because 5~10 min gap but Other suffer. result in waste of money subsidies, waste of fuel and time.
if that metro fund is used in bridges and underpasses and U-turn for smooth traffic flow in Pakistan result will be No Subsidy, less fuel waste, less time on travelling.

Lol! but who will buy your local car.
We will now have to many brands so forget some major part manufacturing locally because we don't have order.
And harsh reality is other then cities we don't have much cars. mostly used old one.
People mostly use bike even if passenger are 3~4 or more. So maximum you can force them to buy rickshaw or some small low speed(250cc) & rickshaw quality car which will cost higher then rickshaw.

 

[Riz]

O yaar bring these thelaas and shopkeepers under tax categories and your economy will boost like jet engine... For example mineral water factories are selling 1 set which contains 6 1.5 liter bottles in Rs 120 to 160, and shopkeepers are selling then in Rs 50 to 60 per botte.. Without paying any tax they are earning huge profits.. And our society consideres them poor shop keepers.. WTF my home town village 3 old shopkeepers having 3 stories houses which even doctors dont afford... In this last eid i meet with a theela owner who is selling fruits Infront of my office... He was going to his village in faislabad after eid.. I asked him why you are going home after eid he said i earnd 60k in just 3 days of eid.. And now i am going back to see my family... Lol.. Now tell me which business men can earn 20k per day?

 

[Darth Vader]

Sir your borrowed money is gone. How you expect to maintain your House exp if you don't have money to run daily exp.
Not to forget Govt. has finally realized dam is life/death situation so forget improvement in anything else.
Your Govt. pay much more then they deserve mostly for nothing.
Second the working need to change from paper to computer from 10 desk to 1 window operation. i have seen how govt. department works.
Govt. job is not to create job but to facilitate it and laying off incompetent and extra work force will help Govt. to divert fund to promote business activity and social welfare.
In 2003 on Govt. run entity employee get 50~60k / month to type a letter and that job we beyond his capability.
PIA & Turkish air has same employee number but huge different is size of fleet & Operation.
Karachi Steel mill liability is more then its assets. Mill expired huge losses.
We already have factories, warehouse, skilled labour and they are closed or ON & OFF working. Do you know why??? Cost of production is too high i.e. electricity to run a mill.
& small player can't compete in highly competitive and costly business.
Few textile business companies who had shown growth are all big player.
Practical small business(i.e. handmade item etc) are too small to make any dent.
Misuse of funds is not an issue at the moment because we don't have fund. not to forget circular debt and int. loan.
Any practical thing would be too buy local/preferred local on imported one including for those abroad.

You are mistaken as i said you are looking at few specific points and thats it
yes currently Pakistani economy is in bed state how to imporve
as i said these programs are not just for now these programs should have been started 60s 70s 80s
but still
Pakistan doesn't have that many factories and skilled labour as you might be thinking.
These Projects which i m talking about doesnt require that much capital thats where your Private banks come into provide sustainable loans to lower to middle class.

Pakistan has lost many things the only way to build is it from build it to lower levels
Build Sectors according to the local resources of that area.

Build Industrial work force and zones in high populated area.
Promote local work , build quality so people have a alternative , make sure to always keep eye on quality control.

These are just few suggestion which needs invest even on small level to build future for this and next generation as you know majority of Pakistani work force is young





and you keep contradicting yourself

Your Govt. pay much more then they deserve mostly for nothing.
Second the working need to change from paper to computer from 10 desk to 1 window operation. i have seen how govt. department works.
Govt. job is not to create job but to facilitate it and laying off incompetent and extra work force will help Govt. to divert fund to promote business activity and social welfare.
e.g.
In 2003 on Govt. run entity employee get 50~60k

Misuse of funds is not an issue at the moment because we don't have fund. not to forget circular debt and int. loan.
Any practical thing would be too buy local/preferred local on imported one including for those abroad.

 

[American Pakistani]

Sir your borrowed money is gone. How you expect to maintain your House exp if you don't have money to run daily exp. Not to forget Govt. has finally realized dam is life/death situation so forget improvement in anything else.
Your Govt. pay much more then they deserve mostly for nothing.
Second the working need to change from paper to computer from 10 desk to 1 window operation. i have seen how govt. department works.
Govt. job is not to create job but to facilitate it and laying off incompetent and extra work force will help Govt. to divert fund to promote business activity and social welfare.
e.g.
In 2003 on Govt. run entity employee get 50~60k / month to type a letter and that job we beyond his capability.
PIA & Turkish air has same employee number but huge different is size of fleet & Operation.
Karachi Steel mill liability is more then its assets. Mill expired huge losses.

We already have factories, warehouse, skilled labour and they are closed or ON & OFF working. Do you know why??? Cost of production is too high i.e. electricity to run a mill.

& small player can't compete in highly competitive and costly business.
Few textile business companies who had shown growth are all big player.
Practical small business(i.e. handmade item etc) are too small to make any dent.

Misuse of funds is not an issue at the moment because we don't have fund. not to forget circular debt and int. loan.
Any practical thing would be too buy local/preferred local on imported one including for those abroad.


Agri has huge potential because our method and machinery belong to ancient time.
Either farmer too smaller or Wadaira.
Not only this you need too improve distribution and storage(which is only limited to some areas)
we can also save water but implementing efficient method but it will cost high.

Sea is expensive and our agri sector enjoy free water canal for other yes saudi are doing that it would be expensive but feasible.
Because we are not constructing dam give them excuse and you can get contol water by building dam india can stop water only for limited time but once dam full you have too released it.

Local transport can't cover anything that is where problem arises.
e.g. Metro is dedicated 2 lane for Metro Bus mostly that road is empty because 5~10 min gap but Other suffer. result in waste of money subsidies, waste of fuel and time.
if that metro fund is used in bridges and underpasses and U-turn for smooth traffic flow in Pakistan result will be No Subsidy, less fuel waste, less time on travelling.

Lol! but who will buy your local car.
We will now have to many brands so forget some major part manufacturing locally because we don't have order.
And harsh reality is other then cities we don't have much cars. mostly used old one.
People mostly use bike even if passenger are 3~4 or more. So maximum you can force them to buy rickshaw or some small low speed(250cc) & rickshaw quality car which will cost higher then rickshaw.

Useless to debate with someone whose level of thinking is at such level. Embarrassing.

 

[xyxmt]

my 5 points will be

1. produce more
2. produce more
3. produce more
4. produce more goods than babies
5. produce more, import less