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Yeah....I'm not surprised that you don't understand logic.
5 lakh Indians work illegally
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Yeah....I'm not surprised that you don't understand logic.
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Whatever you say Bertrand Russel.
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http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/07/26/d70726020330.htm
^this sums up of our attitude towards each other.
alright help me with some things.Don't fight each other.just say what you have to say without any bashing and it goes for everyone.
what are exactly enclaves?pockets of lands?
does Bangladesh have Indian enclaves under its admin?and India have ours in their control,right?have they been exchanged in the past and/or will be in the future?
what has been done to demarcate the maritime boundary borders?have the riverine borders(the ones along the land borders) been demarcated?does Bangladesh waters overlap with those of Burma and India?
what actually occurred during the 2001 BDR-BSF conflict?
according to our media(hehe funny isn't it;well I don't know what your media says) farmers get shot a lot in fields near the border,and their dead bodies are then dragged off by BSF troops into India.The reports in the end says that a flag meeting will be held,bodies will be exchanged blah blah blah.but things don't seem to improve by much.
Ironically a BD farmer was killed when he was working in his field near the border on the same day BSF commanders came to talk about to improve border security and tone down violence near it.
I can understand why cattle traders(smugglers according to you Indians) or other types of workers may get shot but farmers?
yes you may tell your side of the story whether you are Bangladeshi or Indian just don't start fighting.I can't find the old Indo-BD relations thread so I posted my stuff here.thanks in advance.
^this sums up of our attitude towards each other.
alright help me with some things.Don't fight each other.just say what you have to say without any bashing and it goes for everyone.
what are exactly enclaves?pockets of lands?
does Bangladesh have Indian enclaves under its admin?and India have ours in their control,right?have they been exchanged in the past and/or will be in the future?
what has been done to demarcate the maritime boundary borders?have the riverine borders(the ones along the land borders) been demarcated?does Bangladesh waters overlap with those of Burma and India?
what actually occurred during the 2001 BDR-BSF conflict?
according to our media(hehe funny isn't it;well I don't know what your media says) farmers get shot a lot in fields near the border,and their dead bodies are then dragged off by BSF troops into India.The reports in the end says that a flag meeting will be held,bodies will be exchanged blah blah blah.but things don't seem to improve by much.
Ironically a BD farmer was killed when he was working in his field near the border on the same day BSF commanders came to talk about to improve border security and tone down violence near it.
I can understand why cattle traders(smugglers according to you Indians) or other types of workers may get shot but farmers?
yes you may tell your side of the story whether you are Bangladeshi or Indian just don't start fighting.I can't find the old Indo-BD relations thread so I posted my stuff here.thanks in advance.
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Munshi,
Not really.
If the BD police can come to Kokata would that mean that India is not cooperating?
Further, you claimed that there is no ULFA in BD. Your govt said otherwise. (I have posted that link at two paces!)
Surely, you don't know more than your govt, or do you?
So, leave your biases and lets discuss.
Not really.
If the BD police can come to Kokata would that mean that India is not cooperating?
Further, you claimed that there is no ULFA in BD. Your govt said otherwise. (I have posted that link at two paces!)
Surely, you don't know more than your govt, or do you?
So, leave your biases and lets discuss.
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Salim,
I have repeated twice that the BD government merely said they would look into whether there were in fact any fugitives inside the country. That is not an admission that is cooperation.
I do not work on the basis of bias but on objective facts.
I have repeated twice that the BD government merely said they would look into whether there were in fact any fugitives inside the country. That is not an admission that is cooperation.
I do not work on the basis of bias but on objective facts.
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Seriously????
Mr Munshi,
Based on your history of posting "objective facts",I can surely say the above statement itself is biased.
Sir,
I would like to give you a history on this. In one of earlier debate with Mr.Munshi on the presence of ULFA in BD,he had counter my arguement by saying that ULFA is not present in BD because..... he has not presonally seem them!
Hence ,I feel even thousands of articles and report cannot be subsitute of Mr Munshi's "visual observation" of ULFA members.
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I was wondering how you managed to both live you life, and dig up dirt on India 24/7...
Now I know!!
Thats where you get your entertainment from!!
..sheesh....sad life.....
Action be taken against illegal non-Bangladeshi workers
Several sources confirmed that more than one lakh Indians now illegally work in Bangladesh in various private business concerns, who are pose threat to the security and stability of the country. Some of these Indians even hold most sensitive positions in those business houses where they work and they easily leak out the secrecy of the country to the adversaries of Bangladesh. It learnt the Indians now illegally live in Bangladesh pose threat to the security of the country and it is apprehended that some of them might have been involved in the serial bomb blasts of August 17.
It is now clear that the intelligence agency of the neighbouring country was actively involved with the serial bombings of August 17. Confessional statements of the arrestees and reports of the intelligence agencies and above all report of an inquiry committee headed by the Executive Chairman of the Board of Investment unveiled one truth that the Indian intelligence agency RAW was involved with the bombings of August 17.
Earlier intelligence agencies in a report cautioned the government that about the Indians who live illegally in Bangladesh. The report emphasised on the urgency of identifying and nabbing the Indians immediately to avert further terrorist attack in the country. The report says, the Indians who live in Bangladesh illegally not only create dissatisfaction and unrest in the labour market of the country, but they are also involved in a number of illegal business, including smuggling, exchanging foreign currency, hundi and narcotics and arms dealings. The report claims that most of the contingents of illegal arms, explosives and narcotics enter Bangladesh from India through different border-routes.
The report informs that most of the illegal Indians, whose number exceeds one lakh, reside in the bordering areas, so that they can sneak to India within the shortest possible time. There are two types of illegal Indians in Bangladesh. A section of them came with valid passport and visa, but they did not leave the country after the expiry of the visa. These Indians are engaged in different business concerns in the urban areas.
On the other hand, maximum of them entered Bangladesh without any document. They just entered Bangladesh and began to stay in the country. They work as farm-workers, rickshaw drivers, petty trader, barbers, washermen, cobblers, etc., in the bordering areas. Many of them are working in textile mills, garment factories, buying houses, cellular phone companies, advertising farms, private clinics and hospitals, private universities, English Medium Schools, beauty parlours and massage parlours, hotels and restaurants, etc. Even the multinational companies engage Indians in their firms and factories in Bangladesh. Indians are working here, when crores of able Bangladeshi youths are unemployed. These Indians do not pay their income tax. Nobody knows how much they get as salary or remuneration.
Most of the illegal Indians hail from West Bengal, Assam and Tripura, even from Rajesthan and other parts of India. They can easily assimilate with the Bangladeshis due to linguistic and physical uniformity. As a result, they do not face any problem in getting jobs anywhere in Bangladesh. In most cases, they changed their names and claimed them as Bangladeshis. Some of them even outwardly pretend as Muslims, having beard on their face. Besides, many of them have their close relations in Bangladesh and some of them made new relations marrying Bangladeshi (Hindu) girls, which made it easy for them to stay and work illegally in Bangladesh. They collected nationality certificates from the local Union Council or Municipality or City Corporation. It is believed, most of these Indians are spies of RAW and other intelligence agencies of India and they were involved in terrorist and disruptive attacks on several occasions in the past.
It is learnt that the intelligence report was prepared and submitted to the Ministry of Home Affairs, after getting its instruction. It emphasised on the urgency of identifying and deporting the illegal Indians to avert further subversive activities. The ministry submitted the report to the Prime Ministers Office early this year, but no instruction was given yet to the ministry. It is believed that the government hesitates to take any action against the Indians considering the deteriorating bilateral relation with India.
It is learnt that the government formed a committee headed by the Executive Chairman of the Board of Investment Mahmudur Rahman, to investigate whether any Indian illegally stays in Bangadesh, after a report of this kind was leaked out. The committee submitted a detailed report to the Ministry of Home Affairs recently mentioning the number of the illegal Indians. The report also specifically mentioned, where and in which business houses some of these Indians stay and work.
After the serial bombings of August 17, the intelligence agencies became active in detecting the criminals who were involved in the bomb attacks. Meanwhile, some of the miscreants arrested from several parts of the country confessed during the interrogation that explosives and technology of the bombs were brought from India. Some Indian nationals were also arrested from Inside Bangladesh.
Local dailies quoting the report of the committee found some Indians directly or indirectly involved with the subversive activities in the country. A local Bengali daily made a detailed story in this regard. It said that three nationals of "a neighbouring country who occupy high positions of a private mobile company are accused of smuggling call record and information to the secret agencies of that country. These three officials are working with the said mobile company without the approval of the government."
The daily said, "The intelligence agencies, after analysing available reports became sure that these three officials (Indian nationals) supplied to an intelligence agency of their country the records of very sensitive conversations of very important personalities of Bangladesh, who used that cellular phones of that company. These conversations contain such sensitive information which are considered very essential for the security of the country."
The request of the Bangladeshi intelligence agencies was regretted when they sought the call records of those important persons from that mobile company. "But this mobile company does not cooperate with the intelligence agencies by supplying the records of some phones of that mobile company for the sake of investigation of August 17 and other terrorist activities so far occurred in Bangladesh," the daily informed.
The daily informed that the one of the three Indians is the Director (Technical) of that mobile company and controls the ethnical sides, including the switch room. It is learnt, the concerned Indians can easily record the conversations of those who use the cellular phones of that company.
It is to be mentioned that the government reserves the right to seek the cooperation of any mobile company, if it is essential for the security-related affairs of the country. Government even check e-mail and Internet, and close down websites, if the situation demands so.
Quoting reliable sources, the daily said, After extensive and thorough investigation the intelligence agencies became sure that the secret information recorded from the mobile phones of that company, were smuggled to the secret services of a neighbouring country. But the same company declined to supply the recorded conversations of a specific number of persons, which are essential for detailed investigation of August 17 bomb attack."
Under such situation, government should take immediately go ahead deport the Indians from Bangladesh. It should ask all the business houses hand over those illegal Indians to the appropriate authorities for legal action. If any company or business house fails to act on government instruction, legal action should also be taken without any fear or favour. All the Chairmen and Members of the Union Councils, Mayors and Ward Commissioners Municipal or City Corporations, TNO of Upazillas, District Commissioners, police and intelligence officials should be categorically asked to identify the illegal Indians and their whereabouts. Rural or town people should be asked to hand over those Indians who live in their localities. Concerned first class officials and all other should be cautions in issuing nationality certificates. A warning notice should be served through advertisement in the national dailies asking the illegal foreigners either to leave Bangladesh voluntarily or face legal action. We have no room to allow the illegal foreigners to stay in our soil. Any soft or compromising policy will be suicidal for the country.
http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_22442.shtml
Several sources confirmed that more than one lakh Indians now illegally work in Bangladesh in various private business concerns, who are pose threat to the security and stability of the country. Some of these Indians even hold most sensitive positions in those business houses where they work and they easily leak out the secrecy of the country to the adversaries of Bangladesh. It learnt the Indians now illegally live in Bangladesh pose threat to the security of the country and it is apprehended that some of them might have been involved in the serial bomb blasts of August 17.
It is now clear that the intelligence agency of the neighbouring country was actively involved with the serial bombings of August 17. Confessional statements of the arrestees and reports of the intelligence agencies and above all report of an inquiry committee headed by the Executive Chairman of the Board of Investment unveiled one truth that the Indian intelligence agency RAW was involved with the bombings of August 17.
Earlier intelligence agencies in a report cautioned the government that about the Indians who live illegally in Bangladesh. The report emphasised on the urgency of identifying and nabbing the Indians immediately to avert further terrorist attack in the country. The report says, the Indians who live in Bangladesh illegally not only create dissatisfaction and unrest in the labour market of the country, but they are also involved in a number of illegal business, including smuggling, exchanging foreign currency, hundi and narcotics and arms dealings. The report claims that most of the contingents of illegal arms, explosives and narcotics enter Bangladesh from India through different border-routes.
The report informs that most of the illegal Indians, whose number exceeds one lakh, reside in the bordering areas, so that they can sneak to India within the shortest possible time. There are two types of illegal Indians in Bangladesh. A section of them came with valid passport and visa, but they did not leave the country after the expiry of the visa. These Indians are engaged in different business concerns in the urban areas.
On the other hand, maximum of them entered Bangladesh without any document. They just entered Bangladesh and began to stay in the country. They work as farm-workers, rickshaw drivers, petty trader, barbers, washermen, cobblers, etc., in the bordering areas. Many of them are working in textile mills, garment factories, buying houses, cellular phone companies, advertising farms, private clinics and hospitals, private universities, English Medium Schools, beauty parlours and massage parlours, hotels and restaurants, etc. Even the multinational companies engage Indians in their firms and factories in Bangladesh. Indians are working here, when crores of able Bangladeshi youths are unemployed. These Indians do not pay their income tax. Nobody knows how much they get as salary or remuneration.
Most of the illegal Indians hail from West Bengal, Assam and Tripura, even from Rajesthan and other parts of India. They can easily assimilate with the Bangladeshis due to linguistic and physical uniformity. As a result, they do not face any problem in getting jobs anywhere in Bangladesh. In most cases, they changed their names and claimed them as Bangladeshis. Some of them even outwardly pretend as Muslims, having beard on their face. Besides, many of them have their close relations in Bangladesh and some of them made new relations marrying Bangladeshi (Hindu) girls, which made it easy for them to stay and work illegally in Bangladesh. They collected nationality certificates from the local Union Council or Municipality or City Corporation. It is believed, most of these Indians are spies of RAW and other intelligence agencies of India and they were involved in terrorist and disruptive attacks on several occasions in the past.
It is learnt that the intelligence report was prepared and submitted to the Ministry of Home Affairs, after getting its instruction. It emphasised on the urgency of identifying and deporting the illegal Indians to avert further subversive activities. The ministry submitted the report to the Prime Ministers Office early this year, but no instruction was given yet to the ministry. It is believed that the government hesitates to take any action against the Indians considering the deteriorating bilateral relation with India.
It is learnt that the government formed a committee headed by the Executive Chairman of the Board of Investment Mahmudur Rahman, to investigate whether any Indian illegally stays in Bangadesh, after a report of this kind was leaked out. The committee submitted a detailed report to the Ministry of Home Affairs recently mentioning the number of the illegal Indians. The report also specifically mentioned, where and in which business houses some of these Indians stay and work.
After the serial bombings of August 17, the intelligence agencies became active in detecting the criminals who were involved in the bomb attacks. Meanwhile, some of the miscreants arrested from several parts of the country confessed during the interrogation that explosives and technology of the bombs were brought from India. Some Indian nationals were also arrested from Inside Bangladesh.
Local dailies quoting the report of the committee found some Indians directly or indirectly involved with the subversive activities in the country. A local Bengali daily made a detailed story in this regard. It said that three nationals of "a neighbouring country who occupy high positions of a private mobile company are accused of smuggling call record and information to the secret agencies of that country. These three officials are working with the said mobile company without the approval of the government."
The daily said, "The intelligence agencies, after analysing available reports became sure that these three officials (Indian nationals) supplied to an intelligence agency of their country the records of very sensitive conversations of very important personalities of Bangladesh, who used that cellular phones of that company. These conversations contain such sensitive information which are considered very essential for the security of the country."
The request of the Bangladeshi intelligence agencies was regretted when they sought the call records of those important persons from that mobile company. "But this mobile company does not cooperate with the intelligence agencies by supplying the records of some phones of that mobile company for the sake of investigation of August 17 and other terrorist activities so far occurred in Bangladesh," the daily informed.
The daily informed that the one of the three Indians is the Director (Technical) of that mobile company and controls the ethnical sides, including the switch room. It is learnt, the concerned Indians can easily record the conversations of those who use the cellular phones of that company.
It is to be mentioned that the government reserves the right to seek the cooperation of any mobile company, if it is essential for the security-related affairs of the country. Government even check e-mail and Internet, and close down websites, if the situation demands so.
Quoting reliable sources, the daily said, After extensive and thorough investigation the intelligence agencies became sure that the secret information recorded from the mobile phones of that company, were smuggled to the secret services of a neighbouring country. But the same company declined to supply the recorded conversations of a specific number of persons, which are essential for detailed investigation of August 17 bomb attack."
Under such situation, government should take immediately go ahead deport the Indians from Bangladesh. It should ask all the business houses hand over those illegal Indians to the appropriate authorities for legal action. If any company or business house fails to act on government instruction, legal action should also be taken without any fear or favour. All the Chairmen and Members of the Union Councils, Mayors and Ward Commissioners Municipal or City Corporations, TNO of Upazillas, District Commissioners, police and intelligence officials should be categorically asked to identify the illegal Indians and their whereabouts. Rural or town people should be asked to hand over those Indians who live in their localities. Concerned first class officials and all other should be cautions in issuing nationality certificates. A warning notice should be served through advertisement in the national dailies asking the illegal foreigners either to leave Bangladesh voluntarily or face legal action. We have no room to allow the illegal foreigners to stay in our soil. Any soft or compromising policy will be suicidal for the country.
http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_22442.shtml
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Apparently you chose to ignore the newspaper report on the ULFA that I posted twice on different threads.
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The day a Rajasthani or persons from other parts of India can pass off as Bengalis, that will be the day! They can't speak Bengali, nor do they look like Bengalis. Most West Bengal Bengalis can't speak the East Bengal Bengali. Catch non Bengalis speaking East Bengal Bengali!
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A good read
http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr171.pdf
sidenote: 7.9 million Bangladeshi illegal immigrants are in West Bengal, 5 million are in Assam, and almost 5 million are in Bihar and Jharkhand.
http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr171.pdf
sidenote: 7.9 million Bangladeshi illegal immigrants are in West Bengal, 5 million are in Assam, and almost 5 million are in Bihar and Jharkhand.
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