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China beats US in ultimate military strength index while India comes in fourth​

China

China has the strongest military force in the world according to a study released on March 21 by defence website Military Direct. The study said "ultimate military strength index" was calculated after taking into consideration various factors including budgets, number of inactive and active military personnel, total air, sea, land and nuclear resources, average salaries, and weight of equipment. China has the strongest military in the world, scoring 82 out of 100 points in the index, it noted. China wins in a sea war with 406 ships vs Russia with 278 and the USA or India with 202, it said.

USA

"The USA, despite their enormous military budgets, comes in 2nd place with 74 points. The world's biggest military spender with a budget of USD 732 billion per year is the USA, it noted, adding that China comes second with USD 261 billion, followed by India at USD 71 billion.

Russia

Russia comes in third with a score of 69. The Russian Federation wins in a land war with 54,866 vehicles vs USA with 50,326 and China with 41,641," it mentioned.

India

India is fourth with a score of 61. Soldiers are not paid relatively highly but it is not known whether the report takes account into other benefits and various tax rebates. India has 202 ships.


 
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This list is not serious. They only consider numbers. Number of tanks, number of planes, number of helicopters... etc. They consider a tank from the 1960s and a 2020 model tank to be of the same value. They see the F-35 and the Su-25 as the same.
We still focus on the economic development

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would you people like to make comment on Blue Water navies? how about PLA-China, its said to have defeated US as bigger naval power?

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List of green-water navies (green) and blue-water navies (blue)
 
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India’s new Navy chief pilots ‘blue-water’ strategy

India’s new Navy chief sits at the helm of an emergent, “blue-water navy” strategically positioning the country’s stated aspirations to command a dominant role in the Indian Ocean.

Admiral Devendra Kumar Joshi, 58, replaced retiring Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Kumar Verma on Aug. 31. India’s Navy has 123 ships and 11 submarines.

Blue-water navy refers to the ability to exercise sea control at wide ranges. Specifically, the term describes a “maritime force capable of sustained operation across open oceans, project power from the home country and usually includes one or more aircraft carriers,” according to U.S. Defense Security.

Naval build up expected

A total of 46 new war ships and submarines are under construction and about 15 are expected to be added to the fleet during Joshi’s three-year tenure.

Projects slated for the next three years include a Russian-built aircraft carrier, U.S.-built long-range reconnaissance planes, an indigenous nuclear-powered submarine under construction, and a dedicated naval satellite.

The new ships and submarines will add to India’s presence as a maritime power and reinforce its capabilities on the high seas.

India’s maritime activity is gaining world recognition, marking the period as the country’s biggest naval power increase since independence from Britain in 1947.

Visiting India in June, U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon E. Panetta said, “In terms of regional security, our vision is a peaceful Indian Ocean region supported by growing Indian capabilities.

“India is one of the largest and most dynamic countries in the region. … India is at the crossroads of Asia, the crossroads of the new global economy, and at the crossroads of regional security. We will stand with India at those crossroads.”

Developments during Joshi’s tenure will be watched from both sides of the Pacific Ocean.

Anti-submarine warfare specialist at the helm

Joshi, who was commissioned in 1974, is the 21st chief of the Navy since the country’s independence. He is a specialist in anti-submarine warfare and has served in command, staff and instructional appointments.

His experience includes a stint in warship production and acquisition as the assistant controller of the Aircraft Carrier Program [ACCP]. He then worked at the “Operations Branch,” first as an assistant chief of naval staff [Information Warfare and Operations] and then as deputy chief of naval staff. Notably, Joshi has been the commander-in-chief of the Andaman and Nicobar Command, the only tri-service integrated command in India.

He went on to serve as the chief of Integrated Defence Staff and was the Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the Western Naval Command at Mumbai. He served as the defense adviser in the Indian High Commission at Singapore from 1996 to 1999.

A native of Dehradun in the northern state of Uttarakhand, Joshi studied at Hansraj College in New Delhi. He graduated from the U.S. Naval War College in Rhode Island and attended the National Defense College in New Delhi.

Joshi is requesting not only changes to hardware, but infrastructure as well, saying, “We would need to professionally re-audit, train and consolidate preparedness.”

Overall expansion plan

In addition to the 46 ships under construction, “acceptance of necessity” for 49 more ships and submarines has been approved by the Indian government. The vessels under construction include an aircraft carrier to be constructed in India along with destroyers, corvettes and six submarines to be constructed in France.


The first to be added to the fleet will be new warships of the existing “Delhi Class” destroyers, starting early next year. The ships feature improved stealth features and weapons. Also under construction are eight new landing craft utility [LCUs] vessels, used in amphibious warfare to augment the fleet in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Bay of Bengal.

The Navy commissioned 15 ships in the past three years, including four stealth frigates, two fleet tankers and eight water jet fast attack craft [WJFAC]. Future plans include a deep submergence and rescue vessel [DSRV], six additional submarines, four Landing Platform Docks and 16 shallow-water anti-submarine warfare [ASW] ships. :-)

Last month the Navy issued a request for proposals [RFP] to acquire 56 naval utility helicopters customized for surveillance, anti-submarine warfare, anti-terror, electronic intelligence gathering and search-and-rescue operations. The RFP, which may result in U.S. $1 billion in purchases, has been sent to leading U.S., European and Russian helicopter makers. The Navy has more than 100 helicopters.

Another aircraft carrier on sea trial

India is set to be a two-carrier Navy at the end of the year. [China will catch up soon with one aircraft carrier constructed in Ukraine and undergoing sea trials.] India’s new carrier is a refitted Russian craft previously named Admiral Gorshkov. Renamed Indian Naval Ship [INS] Vikramaditya, the vessel has gone through a U.S. $2.35 billion refit program and will have Russian-built MiG 29K fighters flying off its deck. The 49,130-ton carrier started a four-month sea trial in June in the Barents Sea and is slated to join the fleet by the end of the year.

The other carrier, the INS Viraat, is set to be phased out by 2017 and replaced by another carrier being built at a state-owned shipyard in Kochi, Kerala, on India’s western seaboard.

Meanwhile, India says the INS Arihant, “the slayer of enemies,” will be sea-launched soon. The 6,614-ton nuclear submarine will provide second-strike capability in response to a potential initial enemy nuclear strike. Modeled on the Russian Akula class submarine design, the Arihant is being constructed at Vishakapatnam on the east coast of India.

At an August news conference, Verma, the then-navy chief, said: “Arihant is steadily progressing towards operationalization, and we hope to commence sea trials in the coming months. … Navy is poised to complete the [nuclear] triad, and our maritime and nuclear doctrines will then be aligned to ensure our nuclear insurance comes from the sea.”

Long-range reconnaissance aircraft

In November 2008 terrorists used the sea route to reach Mumbai on India’s west coast to launch an attack, killing 166 people. In response, the Indian government approved the purchase of 12 long-range reconnaissance planes, the P-8I, produced by Boeing. The first is slated to arrive in January 2013. India operates the Russian origin IL-38 and the Tupelov-142 for long-range reconnaissance at sea.

The P-8I will provide real-time information and can be deployed in locations such as the Indian Naval Air Station, INS Baaz also known as “the Hawk.” The P-8I will provide constant updates on the Strait of Malacca and also the “six degree channel” – the main shipping channel between the Indian and Pacific oceans.

The Strait is an important link between European markets and oil in the Gulf on one side, and China, Japan and Korea on the other side. Nearly 70,000 vessels pass through the Strait annually – about 40 percent of all global trade. :coffee:

In conjunction with the Indian Space Research Organization, the Navy is slated to launch a communications satellite that will provide communications among all its warships, helicopters, aircraft and submarines.

INDIA’S NEW NAVY CHIEF PILOTS ‘BLUE-WATER’ STRATEGY - Asia Pacific Defense Forum in English

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how you people see Pakistan's 7th place in the WFP list as below? Turkey is listed here on 11th number. :coffee:


 
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China doesn't have a bigger Navy than the US.

we read Chinese navy has virtually defeated US's naval power upto now, with their plan of future build up.
its true that China now has bigger navy than US. the naval personnel numbers. Russia would now be listed 3rd and 4th would certainly be India......
 
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we read Chinese navy has virtually defeated US's naval power upto now, with plan of future build up.
its true that China now has bigger navy than US. Russia would now be listed 3rd and 4th would certainly be India......

The Chinese Navy is growing, but it's still not a match for the United States Navy.

One aircraft carrier as of present among other things

Not even close to as many Subs as the USN
 
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The Chinese Navy is growing, but it's still not a match for the United States Navy.

One aircraft carrier as of present among other things

we have a news as below. i find if TOI or ET say something, any analysis they value, then its considered worth reading. overall US's firepower is now below to China,
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=> China wins in a sea war with 406 ships vs Russia with 278 and the USA or India with 202, it said.

China beats US in ultimate military strength index while India comes in fourth

China

China has the strongest military force in the world according to a study released on March 21 by defence website Military Direct. The study said "ultimate military strength index" was calculated after taking into consideration various factors including budgets, number of inactive and active military personnel, total air, sea, land and nuclear resources, average salaries, and weight of equipment. China has the strongest military in the world, scoring 82 out of 100 points in the index, it noted. China wins in a sea war with 406 ships vs Russia with 278 and the USA or India with 202, it said.

USA

"The USA, despite their enormous military budgets, comes in 2nd place with 74 points. The world's biggest military spender with a budget of USD 732 billion per year is the USA, it noted, adding that China comes second with USD 261 billion, followed by India at USD 71 billion.

Russia

Russia comes in third with a score of 69. The Russian Federation wins in a land war with 54,866 vehicles vs USA with 50,326 and China with 41,641," it mentioned.

India

India is fourth with a score of 61. Soldiers are not paid relatively highly but it is not known whether the report takes account into other benefits and various tax rebates. India has 202 ships.

 
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The Chinese Navy is growing, but it's still not a match for the United States Navy.

One aircraft carrier as of present among other things

Not even close to as many Subs as the USN

You are correct they are not there yet but in all honesty they are getting there. The gap will be there but how narrow it will be that will be the real question.
 
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we have a news as below. i find if TOI or ET say something, any analysis they value, then its considered worth reading. overall US's firepower is now below to China,

If they got into a confrontation right now, the US Navy would sink every Chinese ship to the bottom of the ocean.

Now some US Navy ships also would be sunk but not nearly as many as Chinese ships.

Only one aircraft carrier compared to the many US aircraft carriers.

Not nearly as many attack Subs as US.

China still doesn't have the reach that the US Navy has
 
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would you people like to make comment on Blue Water navies? how about PLA-China, its said to have defeated US as a bigger naval power?

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List of green-water navies (green) and blue-water navies (blue)

 
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To be fair. Take out India from Bric because Indian is not trust Bric member.


Yes, I agree now but not in 10 years. Mark my work, Buddy.
hardware: here, you people read news that CHinese engineers help Pakistani Projects, have you heard the same for India? :what:
US's companies learn from India. India got progress without signing NPT since nuclear test 1974
here India helping development in Bhutan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Burma etc:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/22-0...ic-courses-preneet-kaur.777967/#post-14571490

here how Indian engineers help South Asian nations, as below :coffee:

Lines of Credit for Development Projects

Development assistance in the form of concessional Lines of Credit (LOCs) is extended by the Government of India under the Indian Development and Economic Assistance Scheme (IDEAS) through the Exim Bank of India. In total 306 LOCs worth US$ 30.59 billion have been extended to 65 countries.. The projects under the LOCs cover critical infrastructure sectors such as transport connectivity through railways, roads and ports; power generation and distribution; agriculture and irrigation; manufacturing industries, healthcare, education and capacity building. So far about 322 LoC projects have been completed while 277 projects are under implementation.

Out of the total LOCs of US$ 30.59 billion, US$ 16.095 billion have been extended to Asian countries, with the largest value of commitments having been made in India’s immediate neighbourhood. LOCs worth US$ 7.862 billion have been extended to Bangladesh, US$ 2.129 billion to Sri Lanka, US$ 1.65 billion to Nepal, US$ 765 million to Mauritius, US$ 1.33 billion to Maldives, US$ 476 million to Myanmar and US$ 128 million to Seychelles.

There is a special focus on regional connectivity initiatives in the neighbourhood under GoI LOCs as these can act as force multipliers to accelerate regional growth & development, promote people-to-people contact and encourage trade and commerce. A total of 100 connectivity projects of around USD 7 billion have been taken up under LOCs in 4 countries in our neighbourhood, out of which 50 projects have already been completed. These include:

Bangladesh​

31 projects (13 already completed). 17 Rail (9 completed), 8 Road (3 completed), 5 Ports/Shipping (1 completed), 1 Airport. Apart from this, there are 3 Power Transmission Line projects and 1 Telecom project. The Power transmission lines for Power Evacuation facilities for the first Nuclear Power Plant of Bangladesh in Rooppur worth US$ 1 billion are also being implemented under GoI LOC extended to Bangladesh. :-)

Nepal​

46 Road projects (22 already completed). Apart from this there are 4 Power Transmission Line Projects (1 completed). These road projects in various parts of Nepal will increase internal connectivity and will help improve transportation linkages with India.

Sri Lanka​

19 projects (12 already completed). 16 Rail (10 completed), 2 Road (2 completed) and 1 Port project. Reconstruction of Sri Lankan Railways after the civil war has been done primarily through GoI LOCs.

Myanmar​

4 projects (3 already completed). 3 Rail (2 completed), 1 Road (1 completed). Apart from this, there are 3 Power Transmission (3 completed) and 2 Telecom projects (2 completed).

India has completed numerous iconic infrastructure projects in partner countries under the Lines of Credit. Some of these iconic projects include the Parliament Building of Gambia, the Presidential Palace in Ghana, the Kosti Power project in Sudan which provides 1/3rd of the country’s power, the Nyaborongo Power Project in Rwanda which provides 1/4th of the country’s power, Railway Bridges and Signalling Systems in Bangladesh, the post-war rebuilding of the Sri Lankan Railways etc. India is building the first Oil Refinery of Mongolia under LOC at a cost of USD 1.24 billion which will provide critical energy security to this landlocked country. India has set up the first ever industrial units in many countries like the first Cement Plant of Djibouti, the first Milk Processing Plant of Mauritania, the first Sugar Factory of Ghana etc. The Upper Ruvu Water Treatment Plant in Tanzania provides clean drinking water to more than 2 million people in the Dar es Salaam area. LoCs have also been extended in many new sectors like defence and solar energy. :-)


Russia is not comparable to the US or even China in terms of self-sufficiency. The US can manage while being in an economic war with both China and Russia and China can also get by if it is cut off from the US and Russia. However, Russia will collapse if China joins western sanctions against it. Russia does not have the agency to be an independent power.It is going to end up becoming a glorified client state of China unless there is a regime change.

since Cold War time, we find India-Russia combined overweight US in having a 'total' dependence on ourselves/in terms of self-sufficiency.
here, Indian engineers help Russia more than what Russia contribute in India :coffee:
 
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here how Indian engineers help South Asian nations, as below :coffee:





since Cold War time, we find India-Russia combined overweight US in having a 'total' dependence on ourselves/in terms of self-sufficiency.
here, Indian engineers help Russia more than what Russia contribute in India :coffee:
Indian engineers build bridge.

At Least 26 Die as Bridge Collapses While Under Construction in India​

A rescue effort was underway as reports indicated that several additional workers were trapped under the wreckage.

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The collapsed span of a bridge rests on the floor of a lush valley.

A photo shared on social media by Mizoram State, India, showed the damaged bridge.Credit...Zoramthanga, via X, formerly known as Twitter

The collapsed span of a bridge rests on the floor of a lush valley.

Suhasini Raj
By Suhasini Raj
Reporting from New Delhi
Aug. 23, 2023
At least 26 workers were killed on Wednesday after the collapse of a bridge that was under construction in the northeastern Indian state of Mizoram, officials said.
Several other workers were feared trapped under the wreckage, the Indian news media reported. Sabyasachi De, a spokesman for the North East Frontier Railway, said that Mizoram State had taken over a rescue operation and that the construction was a project of the federal railways ministry.
“Most northeastern state capitals are not connected by the railways, so this bridge was part of that connectivity project,” he said.

Mr. De said that a gantry, rather than the entire bridge, fell while being set atop the bridge’s piers. A committee has been formed to investigate the cause of the collapse, he added.
 
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