4 people died and 240 people get COVID-19 after taking Pfizer vaccine in Israel

[FuturePAF]

With the vaccine not providing immediate immunity to the coronavirus, over two hundred Israeli citizens have been diagnosed with the disease days after getting the Pfizer/BioNTech jabs, local media reported.

The number of those who got Covid-19 despite being vaccinated was at around 240 people, according to data from Channel 13 News.

4 People Died and 240 Got COVID19 in Israel After Being Injected with Pfizer Experimental mRNA Vaccine (medicalkidnap.com)

Did the people that contract the virus, change their behavior after getting the vaccine, therefore opening themselves up to the risk of catching the virus; I.e. stop wearing a mask, going into crowded areas, not washing hands as frequently?

We can’t blame the vaccine if people are playing natural selection roulette

a high probability a person will be immune after two doses (with a 21-28 day period between vaccines) and the 10-14 days for the body to build up antibodies; I.e. at least 35 days after the1st shot.

 

[Beast]

That's not how vaccines work...u cannot take a vaccine(any vaccine) that can kill u a year later. There are 4 types of vaccines...
1) Live-attenuated vaccines
2) Inactivated vaccines
3) Subunit/Recombinant vaccines
4) Toxoid vaccines

If u could somehow pick the "worst" one that could pose the greatest risk...those would be the live attenuated vaccines. Those basically contain a live virus...that is weakened...so for a normal healthy person it's fine. However these are not given to those who may be immunosuppressed/immunocompromised like those who have AIDS, or are undergoing chemotherapy, etc. That's about the "most dangerous" type u can say...which only poses a risk to immunocompromised.

The second type contains an inactivated virus...where it doesn't have the ability to infect the host. The third type would only have a portion like a protein marker(so not even the full virus)...and the fourth one generally immunizes against the type of toxin that a germ produces like Tetanus for example.

So I don't know where u r getting this idea of a vaccine killing a person a year later. It's completely baseless to say the least. I highly recommend u read up on this stuff bcuz at present ur posts can create panic among those who are less informed. They may decide against the vaccination if they see unnecessary/baseless panic.

P.S. the COVID19 vaccines rolling out in US are not live attenuated.

So u are saying there is no data to back the long term effect later like a year, how about long term effect health? Check out previous requirement of FDA drug or vaccine requirement. There is a lot of shortcut on requirement for these vaccine to be approved fast. And I am not BS.

 

[Cookie Monster]

So u are saying there is no data to back the long term effect later like a year, how about long term effect health? Check out previous requirement of FDA drug or vaccine requirement. There is a lot of shortcut on requirement for these vaccine to be approved fast. And I am not BS.

This is my field bro...biochem. What I'm saying is that there is no such thing where a person gets some vaccine...and it kills him a year later.

Either u should stop arguing about it now...or provide some proof where a person was vaccinated and after a long time its negative effects emerged. Usually the ppl who are adversely effected by a vaccine are having an allergic reaction to one of the components of the vaccine.

 

[Beast]

This is my field bro...biochem. What I'm saying is that there is no such thing where a person gets some vaccine...and it kills him a year later.

Either u should stop arguing about it now...or provide some proof where a person was vaccinated and after a long time its negative effects emerged. Usually the ppl who are adversely effected by a vaccine are having an allergic reaction to one of the components of the vaccine.

Yes, it may not killed. But its not nice when it can cause other problem. And we have a vaccine based on new method of mRNA approved in less than year.

Timeline | History of Vaccines

The story of vaccines did not begin with the first vaccine–Edward Jenner’s use of material from cowpox pustules to provide protection against smallpox. Rather, it begins with the long history of infectious disease in humans, and in…

www.historyofvaccines.org

10/15/1999

Rotavirus: First Vaccine Withdrawn



The first vaccine for rotavirus, a common cause of severe childhood diarrheal illness, RotaShield, was licensed and recommended for routine childhood immunization in 1998. Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, however, withdrew the vaccine in 1999 due to safety concerns. Scientists associated the vaccine with a rare intestinal problem called intussusception, a potentially fatal telescoping of part of the bowel.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Yes, it may not killed. But its not nice when it can cause other problem. And we have a vaccine based on new method of mRNA approved in less than year.

Timeline | History of Vaccines

The story of vaccines did not begin with the first vaccine–Edward Jenner’s use of material from cowpox pustules to provide protection against smallpox. Rather, it begins with the long history of infectious disease in humans, and in…

www.historyofvaccines.org

10/15/1999

Rotavirus: First Vaccine Withdrawn



The first vaccine for rotavirus, a common cause of severe childhood diarrheal illness, RotaShield, was licensed and recommended for routine childhood immunization in 1998. Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, however, withdrew the vaccine in 1999 due to safety concerns. Scientists associated the vaccine with a rare intestinal problem called intussusception, a potentially fatal telescoping of part of the bowel.

And is it the problems showing up a year later with nothing happening to the person that was vaccinated in between?

Or is it that the vaccine was finally recalled/discontinued after a year bcuz the cases for adverse effects were numerous and the problem was identified...
...but the problems started showing up in vaccinated ppl soon after vaccination?

 

[Beast]

And is it the problems showing up a year later with nothing happening to the person that was vaccinated in between?

Or is it that the vaccine was finally recalled/discontinued after a year bcuz the cases for adverse effects were numerous and the problem was identified...
...but the problems started showing up in vaccinated ppl soon after vaccination?

Tell me , why the vaccine is approved in first place after your so called stringent requirement from FDA in 1998? You mean during the trial period, nothing happened then after approved and administrated and commercialise. Problem start appeared? Is that the case? So I can say, it can happened to pfizer vaccine too, right?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Tell me , why the vaccine is approved in first place after your so called stringent requirement from FDA in 1998?

Bro...u r just arguing for the sake of argument. Vaccines are trialed on animals and humans...then if it statistically is deemed safe...it is rolled out. Give it a rest.

 

[Beast]

Bro...u r just arguing for the sake of argument. Vaccines are trialed on animals and humans...then if it statistically is deemed safe...it is rolled out. Give it a rest.

In normal case, I will agree. But a vaccine approved less than a year? I am asking valid question which u failed to answer. You are only keen to heave praises on Pfizer instead of realizing the problem it might happen due to haste to end the pandemic.

 

[Cookie Monster]

In normal case, I will agree. But a vaccine approved less than a year? I am asking valid question which u failed to answer. You are only keen to heave praises on Pfizer instead of realizing the problem it might happen due to haste to end the pandemic.

I have no personal stakes in the company Pfizer nor any other. You came and started saying what if a person is vaccinated and a year later there's some bad effect...
...then u gave a flimsy proof...which when I questioned that whether it was the vaccine recalled/discontinued a year later or the harmful effects showed up a year later...
...u changed the subject completely and didn't even address the flaw pointed out in ur "proof" u had argued about and presented.

Still...I gave u a way out...and didn't bother to mention that u were changing the subject..
...just said "give it a rest". But u chose to baselessly argue further. So if u insist...why don't u first tell me...did the negative effect show up a year later in vaccinated ppl? Or was it that the cases of harmful effects started piling up(right after vaccination was given) and the vaccine was recalled/discontinued a year later?

 

[Clutch]

Even then the chances of infection from the mRNA vaccine is extremely unlikely.

That wasn't my point.... You misinformed about the vaccine being a dormant virus immune system vaccine...

 

[عقاب]

This is my field bro...biochem. What I'm saying is that there is no such thing where a person gets some vaccine...and it kills him a year later.

Either u should stop arguing about it now...or provide some proof where a person was vaccinated and after a long time its negative effects emerged. Usually the ppl who are adversely effected by a vaccine are having an allergic reaction to one of the components of the vaccine.

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[zectech]

u cannot take a vaccine(any vaccine) that can kill u a year later.

Science : Polio vaccine linked to cancer

A MONKEY virus that contaminated millions of doses of polio vaccine has been directly implicated in triggering cancer. The virus, SV40, which scientists have found in several types of tumour, destroys a key defence mechanism by switching off a protein that protects cells against cancerous...

www.newscientist.com

 

[Cookie Monster]

Science : Polio vaccine linked to cancer

A MONKEY virus that contaminated millions of doses of polio vaccine has been directly implicated in triggering cancer. The virus, SV40, which scientists have found in several types of tumour, destroys a key defence mechanism by switching off a protein that protects cells against cancerous...

www.newscientist.com

"A MONKEY virus that contaminated millions of doses of polio vaccine has been directly implicated in triggering cancer."

Literally the first sentence of the article that YOU posted. So a contaminant causing the problem...and not the vaccine. Let me guess...u just googled something really quick and didn't even bother to read it urself...
...moreover...I'm gonna guess ur background is not at all related to any field like biology, biochem, chemistry, bioengineering, etc.

If I had a nickel for every person that tried arguing stuff they don't fully understand...I would be very rich by now.

 

[zectech]

"A MONKEY virus that contaminated millions of doses of polio vaccine has been directly implicated in triggering cancer."

Literally the first sentence of the article that YOU posted. So a contaminant causing the problem...and not the vaccine. Let me guess...u just googled something really quick and didn't even bother to read it urself...
...moreover...I'm gonna guess u r background is not at all related to any field like biology, biochem, chemistry, bioengineering, etc.

If I had a nickel for every person that tried arguing stuff they don't fully understand...I would be very rich by now.

The vaccine caused cancer. Period. It was said to be safe. Does not matter if it was contaminated or not (see Case 2). The vaccine was unsafe because how it was prepared, using non-human kidneys. Making the vaccine unsafe. It was not contaminated outside of the vaccine manufacturing process, the process of making vaccines contaminated the vaccine, VERY different.

Case 1: Making the vaccine with a substance that could be deadly.

Case 2: Making a safe substance that was spiked later, contaminating a safe vaccine.

Polio Vaccine was case 1, the process of making the vaccine was unsafe, using, non-human kidneys that were naturally contaminated.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Concerning news - if verified - for the Pfizer vaccine. However, the details are necessary here, otherwise this is just a headline grab. Have these infections occurred after the first or second dose?

Both doses are needed before the 95% protection mark is hit.

A few deaths from adverse events have certainly been noted worldwide though. An odd case of encephalomyelitis seemed to hit the headlines - I think it was a south American country.

Would be interesting to see how the Russian and Chinese vaccines get on.

So u are saying there is no data to back the long term effect later like a year, how about long term effect health? Check out previous requirement of FDA drug or vaccine requirement. There is a lot of shortcut on requirement for these vaccine to be approved fast. And I am not BS.

This is certainly correct. Pfizer and Oxford vaccines were rushed through without comprehensive trials. However, the entire western world demanded a rush.