3rd-time unlucky Nirbhay to try luck once more

[Photon]

Is this your emotional drivel or does it have any solid backing?

Yes it has, Chinese M 11 missile, North Korean Nodong missile and American Tomahawk missile.

 

[Tripoli]

Then please provide me with the solid backing for your statements. Anyone can make such claims.
Btw giving names of suspected 'bought off' weapons is not considered proof.

 

[Samrat420]

If only a US Tomahawk had malfunctioned over Indian airspace and fallen down completely intact...... Kaash....

 

[Chanakyaa]

Then please provide me with the solid backing for your statements. Anyone can make such claims.
Btw giving names of suspected 'bought off' weapons is not considered proof.

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/pakistan/miss-miles2005.htm

July 2004: During an interview with the periodical Asahi Shimbun, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto is quoted as saying that Pakistan obtained missile technology from North Korea after Bhutto's December 1993 goodwill mission. Bhutto emphasizes that missiles were not exchanged for nuclear technology.

http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubID.47/pub_detail.asp

http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets/Diverse/Dong-Feng/index.htm

For Detained Info, you got to track Mr. Khan :

https://books.google.co.in/books?id...=0ahUKEwil8bqDme7MAhXHRI8KHXORCuY4ChDoAQgpMAI

 

[Photon]

Then please provide me with the solid backing for your statements. Anyone can make such claims.
Btw giving names of suspected 'bought off' weapons is not considered proof.

Confirmation comes from President Musharraf himself

• Deal entered into to buy ballistic missiles

• Assertion at variance with Islamabad's claims
  
  
  NEW DELHI: It is no longer in the realm of speculation. For years, it has been conjectured that a large chunk of the Pakistani ballistic missile programme is of North Korean lineage. Now, there is confirmation from Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf himself.
  
  In his memoir In The Line of Fire, the General reveals that Islamabad entered into a government-to-government contract with Pyongyang to purchase ballistic missiles.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...-become-ghauri-in-pakistan/article3067428.ece


http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/china/china-missile-sales.html

 

[v9s]

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/pakistan/miss-miles2005.htm

July 2004: During an interview with the periodical Asahi Shimbun, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto is quoted as saying that Pakistan obtained missile technology from North Korea after Bhutto's December 1993 goodwill mission. Bhutto emphasizes that missiles were not exchanged for nuclear technology.

http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubID.47/pub_detail.asp

http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets/Diverse/Dong-Feng/index.htm

For Detained Info, you got to track Mr. Khan :

https://books.google.co.in/books?id...=0ahUKEwil8bqDme7MAhXHRI8KHXORCuY4ChDoAQgpMAI

That was Ghauri, and it's not a big surprise.

However, there is no confirmation of the Shaheen series being foreign, other than speculations and blog posts (m-11, m-whatever doesn't count). though yes, shaheen probably had foreign input.

@The Deterrent

 

[indiatester]

If only a US Tomahawk had malfunctioned over Indian airspace and fallen down completely intact...... Kaash....

For that to happen, you should have sold your sovereignty, allow your own people to be killed by someone's drones and occasionally complain about it publicly.

 

[Samrat420]

For that to happen, you should have sold your sovereignty, allow your own people to be killed by someone's drones and occasionally complain about it publicly.

Bhai mere.. Why you no understand sarcasm???

 

[باپ]

There is nothin wrong with obtaining technology from wherever we can. It shows our good relations of Pakistan with certain countries. India should follow suit instead of wasting public money on blowing up dysfunctional missiles.
Save money by buying components off the shelf. Simple

 

[Samrat420]

There is nothin wrong with obtaining technology from wherever we can. It shows our good relations of Pakistan with certain countries. India should follow suit instead of wasting public money on blowing up dysfunctional missiles.
Save money by buying components off the shelf. Simple

No thanks.. We are fine this way. We'll keep trying and failing, and some day we'll eventually get to our goals inshallah..!!

We don't bank on borrowed luck, coz there are two major problems with it----
1) It eventually runs out. Always.
2) The cost of that approach, in the long run, is too high..

 

[Photon]

There is nothin wrong with obtaining technology from wherever we can. It shows our good relations of Pakistan with certain countries. India should follow suit instead of wasting public money on blowing up dysfunctional missiles.
Save money by buying components off the shelf. Simple

Certainly, there is.

These technologies do not come free, and some times, they cost you dearly.

eg Pakistan had to give away its nuclear tech in exchange for acquiring blueprints for Ghauri missiles.
Which got Pakistan the tag of nuclear proliferator, and is treated as nuclear pariah.

Ghauri missile might obsolete now, but Pakistan's status as nuclear proliferator will remain forever.

 

[باپ]

No thanks.. We are fine this way. We'll keep trying and failing, and some day we'll eventually get to our goals inshallah..!!

We don't bank on borrowed luck, coz there are two major problems with it----
1) It eventually runs out. Always.
2) The cost of that approach, in the long run, is too high..

Lol....
same as you succeeded in making Tejas? Only when it was so late that only fit for museum.

Certainly, there is.

These technologies do not come free, and some times, they cost you dearly.

eg Pakistan had to give away its nuclear tech in exchange for acquiring blueprints for Ghauri missiles.
Which got Pakistan the tag of nuclear proliferator, and is treated as nuclear pariah.

Ghauri missile might obsolete now, but Pakistan's status as nuclear proliferator will remain forever.

Thats called a fair exchange ...
We had excellent designs of centrifuges which they were struggling to make and we wanted certain Guidance systems and a better liquid fuel engine for Ghauri so we did a barter. Nothing wrong with that.
The centrifuge is just a purification machine and can be used for any purpose,not just nuclear weapons. The fuel for nuclear reactors is also made in centrifuges and the medical isotopes used for medical diagnostic procedures are also extracted in centrifuges,so it wasn't nuclear proliferation either. There are plenty of private companies in the west who operated centrifuges.

 

[Samrat420]

Lol....
same as you succeeded in making Tejas? Only when it was so late that only fit for museum.

I won't get into a Tu-Tu-Main-Main with you on whether Tejas is fit for precision-striking right inside your posterior end or not, coz I know where that debate will take this thread -- Round and Round in a downward spiral..

 

[Chanakyaa]

There is nothin wrong with obtaining technology from wherever we can. It shows our good relations of Pakistan with certain countries. India should follow suit instead of wasting public money on blowing up dysfunctional missiles.
Save money by buying components off the shelf. Simple

Result = AQ Khan.
Rest is History with Pakistan Still Eating Grass !

 

[Photon]

Lol....
same as you succeeded in making Tejas? Only when it was so late that only fit for museum.


Thats called a fair exchange ...
We had excellent designs of centrifuges which they were struggling to make and we wanted certain Guidance systems and a better liquid fuel engine for Ghauri so we did a barter. Nothing wrong with that.
The centrifuge is just a purification machine and can be used for any purpose,not just nuclear weapons. The fuel for nuclear reactors is also made in centrifuges and the medical isotopes used for medical diagnostic procedures are also extracted in centrifuges,so it wasn't nuclear proliferation either. There are plenty of private companies in the west who operated centrifuges.

That "harmless barter " and certain others, got you the tag of being one of the worlds foremost nuclear proliferators.

As North Korea used these Pakistani centrifuges and it blue prints to produce its own nuclear weapons.

This nuclear proliferation is the reason, Pakistan did not get nuclear deal despite desperately asking for it.

And this is the reason, Pakistan will not get into NSG now.