3 Pakistani universities ranked among top 600

[Shoaib_Sham]

Hmmm!!! I dont find it strange... when it comes to graduation level... our universities are pretty good.. lets take FAST(excellent in CS),NUST,GIK and even UET's are acceptable when it comes to graduate level studies.... But None of the these universities have the same standard for the post-graduation...

But the pic. isnt that gloomy.. most of our graduates do end up in top MNC of the world.. just for the record... some where between 90-120 students of FAST have landed in MS (it is an achievement)

 

[solid snake]

First of all, there are a LOT of public universities in this world, so making it into the top 600 is infact an achievement if you follow rankings. Secondly, I think rankings are not indictive of the true situation in a university, I don't even follow US college rankings.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Not to throw up a comparison here, just for informative purposes, does the report state the number for Indian univs?

India have 3 universities in top 400. Pak best ranked uni is at 470 so you won't find Pak uni in top 400.


QS Top Universities: Top 400 universities in the THES - QS World University Rankings 2007

 

[Neo]

India have 3 universities in top 400. Pak best ranked uni is at 470 so you won't find Pak uni in top 400.


QS Top Universities: Top 400 universities in the THES - QS World University Rankings 2007

Surprised again, I expected India to have much more than three!

 

[aryan2007]

Surprised again, I expected India to have much more than three!

me 2...

 

[ahussains]

SO it proves the reaserch standards of oue university we are far behind in Asia Like Japna, China and other nation how we compet with the Euorpe and US standards

 

[kvLin]

Guess interscholastic cooperations between Pak and China would profit both.


This is Islamic International University of Islamabad


This is a graduation ceremony for 9 Pakistani Ph.D and Master at Beihang University, the famous university of Aeronautics and Astronautics in China.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Surprised again, I expected India to have much more than three!

India may have couple of more between 401-600.

 

[bd_wonder]

i think some of you are misinformed. you're talking as if the rankings are authoritative. no such rankings of universities are possible.
only if you were to measure some quantity that can be compared across the board can you "rank" institution? using such measures as number of students, size of campus, endowment/funding opportunities, library sizes etc

 

[Logic note]

I think you shall Look in to methodology to see the Problem .

The Peer Review currently forms 40% of the weightings applied by the Times Higher Education Supplement to the various indicators included in the THES - QS World University Rankings. This article outlines the breakdown of the 3069 responses to the 2007 peer review survey. These responses were then combined with those for the previous 2 years to yield the scores in the 2007 Peer Review.

Peer ?

Since the inception of the rankings the Peer Review has been the centrepiece of the ranking, thus even the smallest alteration to its compilation can have a major effect on the overall performance of institutions. In the first three years of the rankings, no restrictions have been placed on universities identified as excellent by peer reviewers meaning that universities could potentially encourage their own academics to sign up and complete the questionnaire in their favour. Whilst there has been no evidence to suggest a deliberate assault by any single institution in this respect, as the awareness of both the ranking and the science behind it has become more widespread, it has become necessary to eliminate a reviewer’s own university from the list they are presented with in the questionnaire.

Not clear and specific - how did they come to this conclusion that universities could not potentially encourage their own academics to sign up and complete the questionnaire in their favour

Exclusion of single-faculty and postgraduate-only institutions
Initially, it was concluded that comparing single-faculty and postgraduate-only institutions to comprehensive universities would be unfair. These institutions would have a strong advantage in research led factors due to their more specific focuses. However, we are now investigating how we might re-include these institutions in their appropriate categories.

Human Review of the List

There are various countries that have strong universities but were not listed appropriately due, perhaps, to a lack of research publications in English, QS and THES experts reviewed the list in an attempt to balance these anomalies. Amongst others a number of German institutions were added. In addition, we felt it important, in a case where only a single institution from a country appeared, to add at least one or teo others from that country to enable ourselves to take some sort of local benchmark of our eventual results.

I wonder what that means ? are they including some institution just for the sake of being labelled as universal ?

Annual Review of the List

In the course of each year we receive a number of enquiries from institutions that have been omitted or are not included in the list asking how they can be included. We invite these institutions to make a case to us for inclusion... usually based on domestic rankings or other measures that portray their institution in a positive light relative to other institutions already included in our list. In preparation for the 2007 rankings we already have in the region of 10 institutions to be added to the list. We will also examine the survey response rates and if there are institutions receiving absolutely no responses we will considering removing them.

 

[Logic note]

The peer survey is by nature subjective, by the technique of asking industry leaders to rate their competitors they allows them to bullshit about the "intangibles" of a college that we can't measure through statistical data. .

third-party rankings that are actually marketing driven.

As President Naylor wrote in a newspaper op-ed last spring: “As academics, we devote our careers to ensuring people make important decisions on the basis of good data, analyzed with discipline. But Canadian universities have been complicit, en masse, in supporting a ranking system that has little scientific merit because it reduces everything to a meaningless, average score.”

rankings are made based on certain data collected from the institutions, the correctness of which are questionable.There is no way to check the information.The analysis made based on the data collected are averaged.For example there is average gre score needed.This information is of no use as average scores may vary from year to year based on the admittance for that particular year only.In other words many of the information provided will not help the students to decide the university list to which they should apply.It is time if reliable guidance is provided to international students instead of mere rankings

ProfB.Muthukrishnan chennai

 

[Logic note]

I think you shall Read this .

College rankings are mostly about money