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[TheTallGuy]

Ok - but you still have to prove your multiple fighter down theory (is it 8 planes down...???)

I cant get the proof. reason whole mission got classified upon landing..what you see and hear are just controled leaks ...

I tend to believe that all 8 x aircraft were shot down. 3 x SU-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000 Mk 2 and 3 x MiG-21bison.

2 were shot down by JF17, remaining 6 were downed by F16s

This what is called Tempting! @PanzerKiel

 

[m52k85]

I cant get the proof. reason whole mission got classified upon landing..what you see and hear are just controled leaks ...

I tend to believe that all 8 x aircraft were shot down. 3 x SU-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000 Mk 2 and 3 x MiG-21bison.

2 were shot down by JF17, remaining 6 were downed by F16s

This what is called Tempting! @PanzerKiel

Ok sure, we understand you cant give proof, but what is your info based on? A source or just a hunch.. or perhaps your analysis..

 

[Waiting]

I cant get the proof. reason whole mission got classified upon landing..what you see and hear are just controled leaks ...

I tend to believe that all 8 x aircraft were shot down. 3 x SU-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000 Mk 2 and 3 x MiG-21bison.

2 were shot down by JF17, remaining 6 were downed by F16s

This what is called Tempting! @PanzerKiel

Aoa. I agree with you sir....

 

[macnurv]

I cant get the proof. reason whole mission got classified upon landing..what you see and hear are just controled leaks ...

I tend to believe that all 8 x aircraft were shot down. 3 x SU-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000 Mk 2 and 3 x MiG-21bison.

2 were shot down by JF17, remaining 6 were downed by F16s

This what is called Tempting! @PanzerKiel

First time I can safely say that a user name is appropriately chosen by the commenter, Tall Guy making Tall Claims.

 

[TheTallGuy]

First time I can safely say that a user name is appropriately chosen by the commenter, Tall Guy making Tall Claims.

Its Ok

 

[TheTallGuy]

Ok sure, we understand you cant give proof, but what is your info based on? A source or just a hunch.. or perhaps your analysis..

Honestly, its not a hunch

 

[TheTallGuy]

First time I can safely say that a user name is appropriately chosen by the commenter, Tall Guy making Tall Claims.

I can go further and tell you the squadrons of air craft shot down

2 x Su-30MKI (No.15 Sqn, SIRSA AFB)
1 x SU-30MKI (No.221 Sqn, HALWARA AFB)
2 x Mirage 2000-Mk 2 (No.1 Sqn Gwalior but on morning of 27th Took off from Pathankot)
3 x MiG-21BISON (No.51 Sqn)

Add it to the list bro.

 

[Maarkhoor]

I can go further and tell you the squadrons of air craft shot down

2 x Su-30MKI (No.15 Sqn, SIRSA AFB)
1 x SU-30MKI (No.221 Sqn, HALWARA AFB)
2 x Mirage 2000-Mk 2 (No.1 Sqn Gwalior but on morning of 27th Took off from Pathankot)
3 x MiG-21BISON (No.51 Sqn)

Add it to the list bro.

Bro we locked on 8 shoot down only two.

Regards,

 

[GriffinsRule]

I can go further and tell you the squadrons of air craft shot down

2 x Su-30MKI (No.15 Sqn, SIRSA AFB)
1 x SU-30MKI (No.221 Sqn, HALWARA AFB)
2 x Mirage 2000-Mk 2 (No.1 Sqn Gwalior but on morning of 27th Took off from Pathankot)
3 x MiG-21BISON (No.51 Sqn)

Add it to the list bro.

Can you give the serial numbers too?

 

[TheTallGuy]

Bro we locked on 8 shoot down only two.

Regards,

Thats the official line..proofs is in the pudding!

 

[Blueskiez 2001]

I can go further and tell you the squadrons of air craft shot down

2 x Su-30MKI (No.15 Sqn, SIRSA AFB)
1 x SU-30MKI (No.221 Sqn, HALWARA AFB)
2 x Mirage 2000-Mk 2 (No.1 Sqn Gwalior but on morning of 27th Took off from Pathankot)
3 x MiG-21BISON (No.51 Sqn)

Add it to the list bro.

Salam Tall guy

I must atleast take the hat off for you beeing consistent in your posts on this subject. There is this saying that to lie you need a very good memory - so you keep telling the same story over and over again. And plz don´t get me wrong - i don´t think you are lying it´s just that you beeing so consistent in your case that i am starting to belive in you....
My problem is that i want to belive in you but i do not have evidence. I can´t understand that how India can hide not one (what they did) but SEVEN wreckeage of fighter aircrafts: 3 SU-30, 2 mirage 2000 and 2 MIG-21 Bison. On top of that what about the pilots (both from Indian and Paksitan side). The pilot shooted down - how would you hide their casualities...??? If i was a fighter pilot in PAF and i wasn´t credited for downing af air craft i would be pissed.... AND the ground crew as well. They would know how many missiles that there where fired.... This means at least 8 BVR missiles - if not more... So many people would know of this and they would be givin "unofficial" statesments....

Gosh we are at it again tall guy... in a thread about the second pilot...

just my two cents

 

[TheTallGuy]

Salam Tall guy

I must at least take the hat off for you being consistent in your posts on this subject. There is this saying that to lie you need a very good memory - so you keep telling the same story over and over again. And plz don´t get me wrong - i don´t think you are lying it´s just that you being so consistent in your case that i am starting to believe in you....
My problem is that i want to believe in you but i do not have evidence. I can´t understand that how India can hide not one (what they did) but SEVEN wreckage of fighter aircraft: 3 SU-30, 2 mirage 2000 and 2 MIG-21 Bison. On top of that what about the pilots (both from Indian and Pakistan side). The pilot shooted down - how would you hide their causalities...??? If i was a fighter pilot in PAF and i wasn´t credited for downing af air craft i would be pissed.... AND the ground crew as well. They would know how many missiles that there where fired.... This means at least 8 BVR missiles - if not more... So many people would know of this and they would be giving "unofficial" statements....

Gosh we are at it again tall guy... in a thread about the second pilot...

just my two cents

I believe what i believe based upon enough that is not on a hunch..i had again said specifically that i believe..

By the way, why Indian official losses are at 2 x aircraft & a Helicopter on 27th Feb 19. which coincidentally are same as IAF lost 2 x aircraft and a Helicopter in 1999 Kargil.

That gives you the answer in shape of Strategic thinking of "FEAR OF UNKNOWN"

why its important and why PAF classified the mission immediately upon landing.

One more Question What is the role of "Forward Sweep" if a section or more is performing this role in a package what is the specific task.

What is the role of BARCAP? What is role of "Escorts" and "IRON HAND ESCORTS"?

Qoute"My problem is that i want to believe in you but i do not have evidence." un-qoute

Please dont believe me ..nor i am saying you should but do you have answers of above..i would recommend consultation regarding air-warfare and strategic planning.

Food for thought!

 

[Windjammer]

To be or not to be. !!!!

 

[Windjammer]

A lot of members claim, they know something...while some claim, they know alot....but no one seems to know everything.....on that note.......let's just wait and watch.

 

[Microsoft]

To be or not to be. !!!!

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A lot of members claim, they know something...while some claim, they know alot....but no one seems to know everything.....on that note.......let's just wait and watch.

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Any explanation of these for the layman?