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'2mn cows smuggled from India every year'

Why only cow? Why not create a fuss on goat, pig, chicken, fish and what not? After all, everyone should have equal right to live, there lies the greatness of Hinduism.

I believe @bitter_but_better will concur with my views. Vegetarianism should be state sponsored and imposed with iron fist.

Is this a joke? Cows, goats, pigs, chicken and fish are not in the same state of consciousness as us. If we weren't here, then there'd be tigers, wolves, and other predators ready to kill them.
 
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you will eat pork just to offend Muslims?-
I think he meant that he would not desist from eating pork, just because eating it would offend Muslims. That is why punctuations are so important.

"I'm eating, grandma." and "I'm eating grandma" mean very different things.
 
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Nope. I eat pork since I enjoy the taste of it just as I eat chicken, lamb and a host of other stuff for the same reason.

Pork is apparently very sticky and crispy, so I think it's disgusting. And I don't like goat either, it's so damn stringy. Makes me feel sick. I'm more of a chicken guy.
 
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These are all ideological hypocrites. :lol:

I swear! I still wonder why the buffalo is not considered just as holy as the Cow. And no amount of religious mumbo-jumbo is going to help conceal the fact that the buffalos in my grandpa's place give more milk than the cows there. :laugh:
 
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I think he meant that he would not desist from eating pork, just because eating it would offend Muslims. That is why punctuations are so important.

"I'm eating, grandma." and "I'm eating grandma" mean very different things.

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Is this a joke? Cows, goats, pigs, chicken and fish are not in the same state of consciousness as us. If we weren't here, then there'd be tigers, wolves, and other predators ready to kill them.
Well that's not an argument, because there are tigers and wolves who would kill humans as well - that doesn't mean we can kill humans for food.

But yes, all animals eat other plants or animals for survival. And most people's morality places human life on a higher value than animal life.
 
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Is this a joke? Cows, goats, pigs, chicken and fish are not in the same state of consciousness as us. If we weren't here, then there'd be tigers, wolves, and other predators ready to kill them.

Being a strong proponent of Hinduism, we will allocate budget to make a special judicial system to punish the predators in the forest, and special correction center to bring them back to the Sanatan concept of vegetarianism.

We have already started recruiting monkeys from forests and Bajrang Dal to enforce our Sanatan dharma.
 
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If Muslims or Christians slaughtering cows is something to frown upon, what about Hindus who abandon cows or sell them to abbatoirs/butchers after adopting them and milking them for all their worth? Why not bring in stringent laws that ban any Hindu from selling or abandoning their cows before pointing a finger at those who buy such cows and then proceed to slaughter them?

Majority Hindus never sell cows to non-Hindus. There are traders who pose as Hindus and buy the cows. No cows are abandoned. Most of the cows you see in the cities are owned by people who were there before the city developed around them. Those lands were the normal grazing land of those cows. Lot of these cows know their way home and go home at night. Most of these cows still find vacant plots or some grounds where they can graze, plus they get fed by the community too. Also in case the cows are abandoned because of the inability of the owner to feed the cow due to poverty, it is still a better deal then having them killed. Freedom to live life as it wants is infinitely better than ending up as steak on someone's plate.
 
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Indeed and that should include Christians and any person who wants to eat beef. I mean what next, a restriction on me enjoying my pork chops in Delhi with my favorite whiskey simply because it offends Muslim sentiments ??

Lol muslims do not worship pork/whiskey. Fail

Pakistan allow non-muslims to drink alcohol and eat pork. In fact Pakistani muslims themselves capture and export jangli sur to China.
 
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Freedom to live life as it wants is infinitely better than ending up as steak on someone's plate.

Unfortunately, the cow will not be able to enjoy its freedom of life as its mind does not stretch to that higher state of consciousness.
 
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Majority Hindus never sell cows to non-Hindus. There are traders who pose as Hindus and buy the cows. No cows are abandoned. Most of the cows you see in the cities are owned by people who were there before the city developed around them. Those lands were the normal grazing land of those cows. Lot of these cows know their way home and go home at night. Most of these cows still find vacant plots or some grounds where they can graze, plus they get fed by the community too. Also in case the cows are abandoned because of the inability of the owner to feed the cow due to poverty, it is still a better deal then having them killed. Freedom to live life as it wants is infinitely better than ending up as steak on someone's plate.

There have been cases of folks in my own community selling off old cows ( they were really poor though).

Well buffaloes are not holy, right? Gau-mata, but no buffalo-mata, I suppose.

This is Racism! The black buffalo does not enjoy the same rights as the white cow!:feminist:.....wait, they're entirely different species though, aren't they? :unsure:
 
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Should animals who violate that law be arrested, like humans are? I mean, if a crocodile eats a deer, should the croc be arrested for violating the deer's right to life? What about birds eating worms? How come they are not following hindu religious views, if they are universal?

And by the way, if you ever get chased by a bear or a tiger, make sure to teach them about your right to life.

The point is that creatures feeding on other creatures has been the story of life on earth. Other than plants, no other life form can survive without eating another life form. And even plants take nutrition from the soil that is fertilized by dead life forms.

And does hindu religion really give equal right to all animals, as you claim? Mosquitoes and flies that spread diseases and epidemics? Would you swat a mosquito that bites you, or think about how it has a right to life? Would you spray insecticides to kill disease vectors and improve public health, or would that be an infringement on the right to life of those flies and mosquitos? Would you support the distribution of mosquito nets in Africa to prevent mass outbrakes of Malaria, our would that be an infringment on the mosquitos' right to earn a livelihood by feeding from human children? What about disease causing bacteria, which are also animals? You are committing a mass genocide each time you take an antibiotic.

BTW could you please tell me where exactly hindu religion says animals have equal right to live? You are aware, aren't you, that the makers of the vedic religion and the subsequent hindu religion were all meat eaters? It was Buddhism and Jainism that advocated and spread vegetarianism in the Indian subcontinent, not hinduism. Hindu legends are full of non vegetarian conduct by the good guys - Rama and Lakshmana hunting in the forest, and so on.

Tiger and Lion eating other animals is dharma. They have to eat those to survive. Humans do not have to eat those to survive. Killing mosquitoes and flies and viruses and bacteria is dharma because our survival is at stake here. Hinduism does not say lay down and die so that only other life survives. Hindu religion does give equal right to all animals. Read manusmriti to know there is penalty for killing even small insignificant animals. Ahimsa is one of the founding principles of Hinduism and it was not taken by Buddhism or Jainism. Your reasoning and logic is faulty.

Rama and Laxmana could have hunted and eaten meat, but then there is no mention of them eating beef. Cow has a legendary place in Hinduism and none of your arguing is going to get that changed.

I don't even know how to defend those Hindus who still cull buffaloes by the thousands in Nepal as Bali for some local Goddess. I guess I'll have to hide behind the No True Scotsman fallacy. :lol:

Hindu sacrifice of 250,000 animals begins | World news | theguardian.com

You must keep in mind Nepal has very little land to cultivate food and meat does play a significant role in their diet and I doubt their slaughter of animals is in the proportion to evoke your dismay. In all likelihood those thousands of buffaloes sacrificed during bali are the only meat they eat during the year given how poor they are. Still as that secular Janon quipped, buffaloes do not get the honor of being holy in Hinduism. It being the vehicle of Yama.

Unfortunately, the cow will not be able to enjoy its freedom of life as its mind does not stretch to that higher state of consciousness.

Who says so? All animals enjoy their freedom. They thrive in freedom.
 
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Tiger and Lion eating other animals is dharma. They have to eat those to survive. Humans do not have to eat those to survive. Killing mosquitoes and flies and viruses and bacteria is dharma because our survival is at stake here. Hinduism does not say lay down and die so that only other life survives. Hindu religion does give equal right to all animals. Read manusmriti to know there is penalty for killing even small insignificant animals. Ahimsa is one of the founding principles of Hinduism and it was not taken by Buddhism or Jainism. Your reasoning and logic is faulty.

Rama and Laxmana could have hunted and eaten meat, but then there is no mention of them eating beef. Cow has a legendary place in Hinduism and none of your arguing is going to get that changed.
I have nothing against considering the cow as sacred. But what gets to me is the hypocrisy behind it. Should it be stated in some text for us to get our heads out of the sand and see that we're benefiting just as much from buffaloes and goats as we do from our cows? Why restrict ourselves to protecting the cow alone then? Add more animals to the roster and ban all their slaughter!
 
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