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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

What has happened yesterday. Minute by Minute details 9:52 AM – Indian Netra and Northern Air command detected ten F16 took off from 3 Airbases from Pakistan. They came in 3 groups and merged in attack formation near Azad Kashmir. 9:54: AM – India scrambled 2 Mig21 bisons and 4 Sukoi MKi to intercept 10 PAK F16
9.58 AM – India sounded alert to PAF fighters that, you are about to encroach Indian air space. Please evade.

9.59 AM – India sounded alert # 2 to PAF with IFAC protocols and they didn’t respond 10:00 AM - PAF violates Indian airspace. With Swarm merge attack formation (which is tactical in nature)

10:01 AM - Nine F16 forced to deviate path and within 1 KM of airspace they returned to Azad Kashmir side after heavy surface to air ground artillery and valiant fight from our Sukoi and Migs.

10:02 AM - One PAK F16 went deep inside Indian territory probably 3 KMs to destroy an Oil storage at an army brigade HQ
10:03 AM – One IAF Sukoi and one Mig 21 Bison Wg Cdr Abhinandan Varthaman) continued engaging the F16 in a dog fight maneuver called “Defensive split”. Mig 21 was in the front, then F16 and then a sukoi. Due to firing from sukoi, F16 flee the scene using a dog fight maneuver called “wingover”.

10:04 AM – Sukoi hovered around oil field guarding it and Mig 21 Bison (Wg Cdr Abhinandan) chased F16 out of Indian territory. While chasing he engaged F16 in a lock-in position for his onboard R-73 air to air missile to be deployed. Here you have to applaud the courage of Abhinandan. He could have returned to base. But if he returns to base then the missile lock in would have been disengaged (due to out of radar coverage) and he will not be able to shoot F16 down. So he decided to chase him down to Azad Kashmir and shoot him down. 10:08 AM – He engaged his R73 missile that hit the F16 and drowned him

10:08 AM – After shooting him down he performed a highly dangerous maneuver called “High-g barrel roll”. He had to do this because he had been in the vicinity of PAK surface to air artillery and SAM. While doing so he has to vertically climb at high speed and reverse its direction towards India. While doing so his old outdated Mig 21 bison’s engine thrust had a problem and he became almost non-maneuverable for few secs. And during that time either a SAM or air artillery hit his plane. So people should understand what has happened. Not upgrading or replacing the ageing jets and just upgrading radar and avionics doesn’t give you the edge. It requires a huge piloting skills, ability and courage to drown a F16 with a Mig21. So salute to Abhinandan!
So you admit that 24 Plane theory that your Tri services press conference said was BS......you comments above would make for a true bollywood film
 
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Ok there is some interesting news floating around. Remember the Indian Command Centre in IOK which was mentioned in ISPR news conference as well, this is where PAF fired fuseless ammo to warn the Indians. Well apparently on that day and time, INDIAN COAS WAS IN THAT COMMAND POST chairing a meeting! PAF spared him, and this was also one of the reasons why the IAF Commander was fired!

Some seriously mind boggling news if true.
 
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Guys one simple question.

DGISPR Said we have 2 pilots, one in custody one in hospital.

Third searching. Didn't find ok.


How is that after hours also you guys were confused.

2 confirmed In hand. How is it possible you had one now.

Why no Pakistani senior member of this group does not ask this question .

All response we did this we did that. Ok you did fine. Buy why No straight answer only for this.


Now some will say it was su30 mki. Now when u had one su30 pilot.

Ok fine. Then where. Is he.
 
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Guys one simple question.

DGISPR Said we have 2 pilots, one in custody one in hospital.

Third searching. Didn't find ok.


How is that after hours also you guys were confused.

2 confirmed In hand. How is it possible you had one now.

Why no Pakistani senior member of this group does not ask this question .

All response we did this we did that. Ok you did fine. Buy why No straight answer only for this.


Now some will say it was su30 mki. Now when u had one su30 pilot.

Ok fine. Then where. Is he.


Maybe we have them as POW. Even your own government denies their existence.. Why should we reveal them?


Think about it.. ;)
 
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Guys one simple question.

DGISPR Said we have 2 pilots, one in custody one in hospital.

Third searching. Didn't find ok.


How is that after hours also you guys were confused.

2 confirmed In hand. How is it possible you had one now.

Why no Pakistani senior member of this group does not ask this question .

All response we did this we did that. Ok you did fine. Buy why No straight answer only for this.


Now some will say it was su30 mki. Now when u had one su30 pilot.

Ok fine. Then where. Is he.
Watch this

 
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Satellite imagery, acquired by Planet Labs Inc. on the morning of 27 February and accessed by ASPI, calls this claim into question. No evidence of damage to the facility or nearby areas is visible on the images. Local media have visited the site and published photographs of multiple small craters in the vicinity, but they haven’t been granted access to the facility that was reportedly targeted. Satellite imagery, presented and analysed below, provides no apparent evidence of more extensive damage and on the face of it does not validate Indian claims regarding the effect of the strikes.


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By analysing areas of healthy vegetation from the imagery, I’ve been able to identify three clear impact areas between 150 and 200 metres from the edge of the facility. These correspond to photos shared by local journalists and confirm the location of strikes.

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Guys one simple question.

DGISPR Said we have 2 pilots, one in custody one in hospital.

Third searching. Didn't find ok.


How is that after hours also you guys were confused.

2 confirmed In hand. How is it possible you had one now.

Why no Pakistani senior member of this group does not ask this question .

All response we did this we did that. Ok you did fine. Buy why No straight answer only for this.


Now some will say it was su30 mki. Now when u had one su30 pilot.

Ok fine. Then where. Is he.




first read all post starting from from page 60 .... secondly your own media reported ... su30 was lost .....the wife of second pilots is on tv .... sqn ldr/wgn cdr Ninad ....


I would request the mods to ban ... indian members asking the same question again and again.
 
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first read all post starting from from page 60 .... secondly your own media reported ... su30 was lost .....the wife of second pilots is on tv .... sqn ldr/wgn cdr Ninad ....


I would request the mods to ban ... indian members asking the same question again and again.


You had him he died. Did u kill him. Sent body within hours. You said u had one more.

Are you retarded.

I am not even arguing that he was m17 which crashed. Which is true.
 
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You had him he died. Did u kill him. Sent body within hours. You said u had one more.

Are you retarded.

I am not even arguing that he was m17 which crashed. Which is true.

First of all try to be respectful ... next time you use any abusive word I’ll make sure ... your are banned ... secondly .... if that second pilot is with us ...! ... it’s your government that should ask for it ... why should we disclose it ...
 
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BREAKING NEWS:

Addressing to public gathering PM modi said " Need for Fighter Jets Rafale has become more important now, If we had these jets the situation would been very different". He said " do not criticize your armed forces it hurts"
 
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You had him he died. Did u kill him. Sent body within hours. You said u had one more.

Are you retarded.

I am not even arguing that he was m17 which crashed. Which is true.
The bottom line is that the picture is murky. I have heard the statement of DG ISPR. HE claimed two fighters were shot one fell in Pak side of Kashmir and the other inside Indian occupied Kashmir. If that is the case when the pilot ejected he may have landed on Pak side or on Indian side. If we returned one pilot with due grace why would we hold on to the other one?
In war time often news can get mixed up. Perhaps DG ISPR got it wrong. For the purposes of interrogation a Wing commander would be a lot more juicier cndidate than a Sq leader. But then this is not a war scenario. By returning your pilot we have proved we have no aggressive designs. There is no sense in wasting band width over this issue as the fate of this unfortunate soldier is not known at this point in time.
We have to wait and ask the IAF if there was a second plane that fell in IOK. IF they accept that then they will have news of the pilot. I am not aware of the actual mode of the hit and whether the plane was on its way back . If it was and its wreckage fell on the Indian side then the likelihood is that his remains would be there as well. However what has now been ascertained is that 2 planes got shot down not 1 as claimed by IAF.
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