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26/11 'outdated' : says Pak

yeah pakistan organisations r banned becoz focus is on pakistan. go on youtube n u will find hundreds of videos of hindus burning down churches, killing christians n muslims.

Does it impact Pakistan or any other organization. you are talking about a horse which was dead 10 years back.

who doesnt know bal thackarey's sentiments about pakistan n muslims of india? but focusing on india is not in favor of big powers of world. that the whole propaganda is.

how many terrorist attacks did thackery carried out in Paksitan?
n pakistan has guts to ban such ppl n organisation, tell me why no action has ever been taken against thackerey? is he more powerful then ur government then?
Lol about he being powerful. Do you even know what the indian media and public did to him when he tried giving statement against sachin.

its just that u blame before anyone blames u.

u dont have thekedari anywhere, u r just one lonely alone hindu country in the world,

Sorry we are not a hindu country and nor we want one. There is nothing hindu about India. we dont have any ummah fetish
nobody feels threatened by u :)

and why should we actually threaten. India is for peace.

big powers know that no matter how much progress india makes, half a war against china or pak can send u back to 80's :)

Do we actually need a war with Pakistan when it itself is in self destruct mode. we just need to sit around and drink our coffee...
And as far china goes india and china are never gonna go on war for the reason we know what it will cost. sorry we are not emotionally charged jihadis.
but pakistan is a part of second largest community of world, if we r stable n prosperous we are undoubted leaders of muslim world. so we r under radar n u r not

Oh the dream of zia ul haq lol.... and what leaders. do you guys ever forget about the treatment you get from middle easterners. as far as the leadership goes there is only one candidate and that is Turkey. If its about terrorism and harboring terrorists then i would have diffrent views though....
 
u really have potential but ur potential didnt tell u that F-16 were bought by pakistan in 1980's if i m not wrong, but usa took the full payment n planes were never delivered.n after 20 years pakistan got the planes n u think its for free? lol .count all the binoculars,vans,cctv cameras or watever, how much is the total? n then divide that total by 10 for the past 10 years since pakistan has been facing all this , then minus the money pak govt gives to the families of victims, the money they spend on recruiting new police n security personnel who lose their lives, their training, the money spent on re-construction of buildings lost, buying the equipment to enhance the police n security departments,n dont know how many other expenditures. so wat r we left with??? may b 1 billion a year since 9/11 ? so u think if the country wasnt prone to terrorism, wasnt facing sanctions for the blames of supporting terrorists, ppl had freedom to invest n trade, pakistan is not able to earn 1 billion a year? i see ur potential in mathematics now :)


Ugh... I hate spoon feeding



With over forty thousand Pakistanis killed and over hundred thousand injured (still counting) and the whole nation terrorised & hopeless, one may ask whose war is it anyways. And what were the bounties for the "Frontline State".

The world image of Pakistan is going to its lowest abyss, flight of talent & capital, rampant inflation, rising debt or the move over from Kalashnikovs (AK-47 guns) to ball bearings.

America had been a true friend all along.

Very few people realize that a total of 14 Americans (al-Qaeda’s original enemy), got killed within Pakistan since 9/11. These included twelve American servicemen, Daniel Pearl (journalist) and a diplomat.

Who, in Pakistan, actually owned major stakes in the economics of this longest war in American History? _ Pakistan's Armed Forces, International & Local NGOs and General(R) Musharraf .

Pakistani citizens, generally, just got USAID wheat sacks besides makeshift tents and that too in emergencies like flood and IDP situations.

Two third of the US aid were spent directly on war machinery

Out of the USD 17 billion or so, allotted to Pakistan by US, so far, as support for war on Terror, over two thirds have gone directly into the War Effort and War machine. Pakistan’s armed forces bought around USD 6 Billion worth of arms and armaments, mostly India Specific, during the last nine years, as also admitted by Gen Musharraf. More than half of this money, already paid, under Foreign Military Fund (FMF), provided by Americans, never actually got to Pakistan. The shopping list includes F16's, Naval Reconnaissance planes & Frigates, Bombs & Missiles.

These weapons allotted or delivered during last nine years were roughly double than the total US arms imported by Pakistan during last 55 years, from 1947- 2003. Hats Off to Pakistani defense establishment for having such a silent victory. Over Half of the above investment in Arms & Ammunitions were covered by Americans through Foreign Military Finance (FMF) Facility while the remaining half has been committed share of Pakistani Government i.e. USD 3 Billion (Rs. 255 Billion).

It is interesting to note that Pakistan is perhaps the only country in the world which actually pays for half of the weapons it buys from USA. This is a historic pattern with Pakistan since SEATO/CENTO (A period of 1954 TO 1974) up till now and being America’s Frontline ally didn’t change the rules of business for Americans. Other Muslim allies of US like Jordan & Egypt don’t pay any significant money for American Arms despite the fact the Egyptian imports of US arms are actually ten times those of Pakistan.

It is even interesting to see how this Arms business was a win-win for both Parties involved. Pakistani Establishment filled its armouries, after a long time, for any potential war with India while America sold its weapons to a poor third world country at a direct cost and bagged matching orders i.e. USD 3.5 Billion from India, during Obama’s visit to Dehli. To amply top that up, the Indian Air Force, only last week, announced plans to buy another USD 29 billion worth of Weapons and Fighters with Major chunk again going to USA. When realized, that makes 5 times Pakistani Defense purchases since 9/11.

American troops might leave the region in near future but the Arms Business will keep flowing back home from South Asia.

Another big chunk of USD 8 Billion have been paid against Coalition Support Fund (CSF) and Pakistan Counterinsurgency Capability Fund ( PCCF).These funds were reimbursed directly to Pakistan Army against Logistics and war effort, as per claims provided directly by them. The Americans reportedly didn’t pay anything to Pakistan against depreciation of her arms and also for combat related loss of life and injury.

The Condolence payment or compensation for every American soldier killed, in the war on Terror is USD 400,000 ( Rs. 34 million) while no compensation has reportedly been paid to the dependants of Pakistan Soldiers who died in the line of duty. Even civilians deaths are not compensated.

The economic aid component of American support against the War on Terror

Over 80 percent of this aid goes to the Economic Support Fund (ESF) which helps Pakistan offset some of the immediate and short term financial impacts of this war. Around two thirds of this total economic support has been channeled into Pakistan through USAID. Most of this AID money, around $ 6 billion till date, had not been paid directly to Government of Pakistan. The USAID actually released these funds to about two dozen predominantly American NGO’s after deducting its Administrative and oversight charges.

The American NGO's, in turn, funneled this aid to their country offices in Pakistan and some Pakistani NGO's, after deducting their management costs. These INGO's & local NGO's then channeled this American Aid to different projects after budgeting their respective oversight and administrative costs. More than a quarter of the apportioned aid gets wasted because of this cumbersome process of aid money changing hands.

To have an Idea, one of world’s largest American NGO i.e. Care Inc., also active in Pakistan, claims to use 9% of the aid money for support services and advocacy. On US Aid to Pakistan, these management & oversight charges are deducted by three separate entities before the Aid dollars reach to the really deserving people of Pakistan. This unnecessary tri-partite split of aid dollars amongst NGO's and the further profit-taking by private contractors & vendors in Pakistan ( currently charging around 30% in gross profits) decrease the allotted aid to roughly half of the total aid committed under USAID before it gets invested in actual projects on Ground.

The viability of these USAID/ NGO supported projects and their efficacy is best known to everybody involved in this sector. Unnecessary consultancies and commissions to aid agency procurement staff (currently about 8-10% of the Award value) involved in this split exacerbate the downstream disbursals even further.

One of the biggest and most reputable Government supported NGO in Pakistan called Pakistan Poverty Alleviation Fund (PPAF) reportedly got just around six million dollars out of this American economic Aid of $ 6008 million since 2002.

Most of the American NGO’s acting as conduits of this American Aid never fully disclose their respective projects on ground. A brief summary of this aid business involving American NGO's, however, is provided in the attached budget summary of USAID in 2008& 2009. This a commonly known fact in Islamabad that $ 3,000 House rentals and Rs. $ 4000 hiring charges of land cruiser used by each Foreign Aid official per month is a norm. The security companies engaged to ensure their safety adds up to these Aid management costs. Dar Speigel (a German magazine) reported that up to 80% of the Aid Dollars, in Afghanistan, for example, actually trickled back to the International Donors.

Evaluation of services and contribution of American NGO’s in Pakistan.

Six American NGO's got budget allotments of between 20-40 millions dollars each during the last two years. These were John Snow Inc (JSI), Winrock International, American Institutes for Research (AIR), Academy of Educational Development Inc (AED), CDM Constructor Inc. and Care Inc. Out of these JSI is basically a healthcare consultancy and have basically provided one maternity doctor and two supporting nurses to 24 districts in Pakistan besides providing training to midwifes and investing in Health centres. Their PAIMAN Programme is popular in NGO sector and their funding was around USD 40 Million in 2008.

Red Crescent Pakistan or Edhi Trust or any other local NGO could have done the same very job in less than one tenth of the cost. The result being that this PAIMAN programme for the health of mother and new born babies could have been spread and expanded in all ( over 100) districts of Pakistan.

AIR Inc. another NGO provided Teachers Training to 11,000 Pakistan teachers at a cost of $ 40 million in 2008. That comes to Rs. 300,000 invested in educational training of one Pakistani teacher. Any efficient and credible Pakistani NGO could have multiplied this effort to over 100,000 teachers with the same funds impacting the primary and secondary education throughout Pakistan in a real big way.

Yet another American NGO called AED inc. which specializes in tackling social problems thru education spent tens of millions of dollars to arrange training visits of 250 Pakistani teachers to America during 2003-2006. AED was given a further budget of $ 40 million budget in 2008, the details of its usage are best known to them. The last two major American NGO’s ( namely Care Inc. and Winrock International) were given around $ 30 Million of USAID funds each in Pakistan do not divulge their project details for public consumption .

Around 84% of total USAID budget marked for Pakistan in 2008 was actually channeled thru American NGO’s. The only Pakistani Institution which benefitted significantly from USAID funding was Khushali Bank in microcredits funding. This resulted in USAID direct cash contributions to the upgradation of Public sector Power Plants IPP’s and Tarbela Dam to the extent of $ 68 million in 2009 besides cash contributions of $ 85 million towards Benazir Income Support Fund ( BISP).

The AID also did directly finance some work on rehabilitation of South Waziristan and Malakand besides helping the displaced IDP’s of these conflicts in a significant way.

Overall, the American funding on economic support of Pakistan didn’t actually achieve any "High Visibility" success mainly due to the mode it adopted for disbursal of these funds. This leaves us with the final beneficiary of the American Funding to Pakistan for War on Terror i.e. Gen. (R) Musharraf.

General Musharraf, obviously, extended his unconstitutional rule over Pakistan besides doing what he liked doing, stuffing long denied collectible arms in Pakistan’s national armoury. The General thought he did an excellent job for Pakistan without realizing that he was just another customer in this global trade in armaments and the business of war. "Pakistan First, India Later".

Sri Lanka Guardian: The true cost of the War on terror in Pakistan
 
The only thing outdated is Pakistan's policy of terrorism support, its backfiring, but they are too proud/ confused to acknowledge or course correct.

At the Chinese offering free advice - thanks. I agree these issues have to end for peace in South Asia, and China knows this very well. Thats exactly why they protected JUD three times in UN right before Mumbai attacks. Only if Pakistanis understood your real intentions :tdown:
 
Does it impact Pakistan or any other organization. you are talking about a horse which was dead 10 years back.



how many terrorist attacks did thackery carried out in Paksitan?

Lol about he being powerful. Do you even know what the indian media and public did to him when he tried giving statement against sachin.



Sorry we are not a hindu country and nor we want one. There is nothing hindu about India. we dont have any ummah fetish


and why should we actually threaten. India is for peace.



Do we actually need a war with Pakistan when it itself is in self destruct mode. we just need to sit around and drink our coffee...
And as far china goes india and china are never gonna go on war for the reason we know what it will cost. sorry we are not emotionally charged jihadis.


Oh the dream of zia ul haq lol.... and what leaders. do you guys ever forget about the treatment you get from middle easterners. as far as the leadership goes there is only one candidate and that is Turkey. If its about terrorism and harboring terrorists then i would have diffrent views though....

zia ul haq? he never had such a dream. miss or mr conspiracy expert whoever u r lol, it was bhutto who was establishing the islamic block, thats why he was killed with the help of zia, n king faisal of saudi arabia was alongside bhutto n so was mahatir of malaysia. the problem with u is that u only wanna look at pakistan with goggles of terrorism infront of ur eyes, if u had real sense of conspiracy n propoganda u wudnt state the obvious things u see on tv or read in paper, u would connect the dots n try to figure out sumthing that is not seen by naked eye :)
 
zia ul haq? he never had such a dream. miss or mr conspiracy expert whoever u r lol, it was bhutto who was establishing the islamic block, thats why he was killed with the help of zia, n king faisal of saudi arabia was alongside bhutto n so was mahatir of malaysia. the problem with u is that u only wanna look at pakistan with goggles of terrorism infront of ur eyes, if u had real sense of conspiracy n propoganda u wudnt state the obvious things u see on tv or read in paper, u would connect the dots n try to figure out sumthing that is not seen by naked eye :)

Oops that was my bad. yes i agree it was bhutto's dream. just got confused with the named. mistake accepted.

Sorry not interested in connecting dots where everything non pakistani is a false flag.
 
When have I insulted it?

I have always said that it is a terrible tragedy, and that terrorism is the enemy of everyone.

I won't stoop down to the level of Indians who take such pleasure in laughing at the Japanese murder of millions of innocent Chinese civilians.

And don't tell me where to go on this forum, tell the Moderators.

No Indian here have laughed at the Japanese atocities.....that being said we know that your sole intention is to troll in this thread and to bash India.

It's unfortunate that you Chinese have stooped so low.......:tdown::tdown:
 
9/11 can't be outdated for a New Yorker; 7/7 can't be for a Londoner; 26/11 can't be for a Bombayite either.
 
what policy r u trying to mention? Pakistan's policy is to fight against terrorism n thats why all the terrorist groups have made Pakistan their primary target. they started so called 'jihad' against united states n europe , then y do u think its Pakistan facing the music now? because Pakistan is the country blocking their way . but still most of u cant see that and blame pakistan for supporting or hiding terrorists :) how fair right? a country that is losing most people to terrorism is being labelled as terrorist . if u cant help them atleast appreciate them for their effort n sacrifices

Heh! Pakistan is facing the music because in 1980's on behest of USA, Pakistan became the front line state for creating insurgents/terrorists/Mujahids to fight USSR in Afghanistan. USA got their work done and left. Pakistan thought of using the same tactics to build a proxy state in Afghanistan and forment trouble in Kashmir. It did get a lot of early successes, but this was a classical case of short term gain, long term pain..

Now the same terrorists that Pakistan used to unleash terror on Afghanistan and India are going after your own men, because USA, with a gun to Pakistan's head, is making Pakistan act against (or atleast seem to act against) these groups on its soil..

These are the policies I mentioned in my post.

About appreciation of Pakistan for fighting terrorism.. well, outside of Political rhetoric by west/China and innocent public in Pakistan, I dont think anyone really has any sympathy for Pakistan....
 
It is a pity that a Pakistani minister of such high profile had to make such a condescending statement about such a sensitive issue. If the Pakistani government wishes to establish any credibility about its professed claim to stamp out lawlessness and terrorism in and out of Pakistan then it should perhaps start by censoring this Minister. Karl Marx once stated that religion is the opium of the masses and this is now becoming so evident in Pakistan. Pakistani masses seem to get high on claims of being Islamic warriors. This is manipulated by various sectors within Pakistan to the extent that the world's numero uno wanted terrorist became a guest of certain Pakistani interests purely because he claimed to represent the Islamic cause.

Instead of attempting to re-establish its credibility in the international sphere, a democratically elected government of Pakistan elects to pacify its masses and stoke the egos of the Pakistani masses by issuing a statement of this sort via one of its Ministers. This statement may just be the opium for the Pakistani masses after the bin Laden affair but it does little to re-establish Pakistani's credibility in the international arena. If Pakistan wants to reinvent itself as a decent nation in the international community, it will have to lose grip of its outdated mode of thinking. Or else any attempt to put a brake on its current speedy journey towards the status of pariah status of nations like North Korea and the former Taliban ruled Afghanistan will be futile. The government of Pakistan now represent the thoughts of the majority of Pakistanis. If the recent conduct of Pakistan and this statement by a government member of Pakistan is anything to go by on the mindset of Pakistanis then they maybe correct in their usual rhetoric that no man but only Allah can save Pakistan for they will need all the help which God can spare them
 
9/11 can't be outdated for a New Yorker; 7/7 can't be for a Londoner; 26/11 can't be for a Bombayite either.

I think you meant "Mumbaikar" and not Bombayite. Or else Shiv Sena will place a bomb up your yite :D
 
Does it impact Pakistan or any other organization. you are talking about a horse which was dead 10 years back.



how many terrorist attacks did thackery carried out in Paksitan?

if he had power n resources do u think he still wouldnt do it?

Lol about he being powerful. Do you even know what the indian media and public did to him when he tried giving statement against sachin.

bcoz sachin is neither a muslim nor a pakistani n is one most popular person in india.


Sorry we are not a hindu country and nor we want one. There is nothing hindu about India. we dont have any ummah fetish

we dont have a fetish either its just a fact we r a part of 2nd largest community of world, i say or not, u listen or not but dear the fact is fact :) n u cant have fetish for such a thing when u dont have any1 to share fetish with :)

and why should we actually threaten. India is for peace.

india for peace? then why r they killing kashmiris for last 64 years when they agreed infront of whole world to carry out a referendum in kashmir?if india is for peace then how come india is the only country in region having border issues with every single neighbor n has fought wars against all at some level? if india is for peace then how come they r openly taking advantage of chaos in pakistan n building dams on water n violating indus water treaty?


Do we actually need a war with Pakistan when it itself is in self destruct mode. we just need to sit around and drink our coffee...
And as far china goes india and china are never gonna go on war for the reason we know what it will cost. sorry we are not emotionally charged jihadis.

so u know wat it will cost to fight against china so u will not go for war, but with pakistan u dont mind war but u dont need it bcoz pakistan is self destructing and india is happy to see that (drinking coffee) , wow india really is for peace :D

Oh the dream of zia ul haq lol.... and what leaders. do you guys ever forget about the treatment you get from middle easterners. as far as the leadership goes there is only one candidate and that is Turkey. If its about terrorism and harboring terrorists then i would have diffrent views though....

turkey? u gota b kidding me. only bcoz they wear skirts n r closer to europe? lol.10 yrs ago when pakistan wasnt prone to terrorism n wasnt labelled, it was 2nd after malaysia for exports (other then oil) . pakistan had n still has largest , most equipped n modern armed forces, only muslim country that had close ties with both usa n china,whenever any muslim country needed technical support from another muslim country they turned to iran or pakistan not to turkey, whenever UN needed muslim army for peacekeeping anywhere in the world it was pakistan that was asked for help not turkey, apart from one tri-lateral organisation with pakistan n iran, turkey has no close relationship with the rest of muslm world then wat on earth makes u think turkey was a potential leader of muslim world? it could b iran or may b saudi arabia bcoz they have our sacred places but turkey? seriously?? terrorism n harboring terrorists is just a label u n ppl like u have put on us, u just dont want to open eyes n see that pakistan is giving away lives n assets in the war against terrorism n is probably the only biggest target of terrorists. on one side u think we r so resourceful n smart to make as many terrorists as we want, n we cash the situation n on other side u think we r so dumb that we r using terrorism to cut our own limbs. lol... btw how manyh pakistanis were involved in 9/11 or london bombing or spain bombing that u call us terrorists? the answer is none, they were all african, arabs or afghanis... but u wont accept it
 
Bash the Bashir:devil::devil:
Anyway his words never mattered, when looking to india's concerns none of the pakistanis matter because all are same breed. I hope someday there is a new country between us and we are not neighbours! Pakistanis mentality will never change, even if we give the whole kashmir back, they will want bangalore next!!i don't know why are we talking to them, we should stop all connections, dialogues etc and just watch the country eat itself. Friday night movie!!:hitwall:
 
In an outrageous insult to the victims of the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, Pak foreign secretary Salman Bashir called India's demand for action against 26/11 perpetrators was 'outdated'. He also added that such statement were not good for the dialogue process. ''It is a familiar line (and) outdated. It is some part of the old system repeating itself. This line of thinking is mired in a mindset that is neither realistic nor productive. Such statements are not very helpful. Nevertheless, Pakistan continues to approach such issues with a spirit of confidence in itself'', Bashir said.

Pak says 26/11 demand 'outdated'-Pakistan-World-TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

India has never been intrested in investigation of 26/11.I have just seen in the news that today hearing took place of 26/11 case an next will be on 14th.PAkistan has repeatedly asked india to allow Pakistani judicial mission to take statement of Terrorist KAsab and few eye witnesses but India always declined.Pakistani courts only accepts investigation and statements recorded from Pakistani officials and its the rule made before decades.Pakistan arrested all the accused but due to non availability of proof Hazfiz saeed got bail.Remaining are still in custody.
India uses 26/11 just to distort Pakistan's image internationally.
 
Does it impact Pakistan or any other organization. you are talking about a horse which was dead 10 years back.



how many terrorist attacks did thackery carried out in Paksitan?

Lol about he being powerful. Do you even know what the indian media and public did to him when he tried giving statement against sachin.



Sorry we are not a hindu country and nor we want one. There is nothing hindu about India. we dont have any ummah fetish


and why should we actually threaten. India is for peace.



Do we actually need a war with Pakistan when it itself is in self destruct mode. we just need to sit around and drink our coffee...
And as far china goes india and china are never gonna go on war for the reason we know what it will cost. sorry we are not emotionally charged jihadis.


Oh the dream of zia ul haq lol.... and what leaders. do you guys ever forget about the treatment you get from middle easterners. as far as the leadership goes there is only one candidate and that is Turkey. If its about terrorism and harboring terrorists then i would have diffrent views though....

Heh! Pakistan is facing the music because in 1980's on behest of USA, Pakistan became the front line state for creating insurgents/terrorists/Mujahids to fight USSR in Afghanistan. USA got their work done and left. Pakistan thought of using the same tactics to build a proxy state in Afghanistan and forment trouble in Kashmir. It did get a lot of early successes, but this was a classical case of short term gain, long term pain..

Now the same terrorists that Pakistan used to unleash terror on Afghanistan and India are going after your own men, because USA, with a gun to Pakistan's head, is making Pakistan act against (or atleast seem to act against) these groups on its soil..

These are the policies I mentioned in my post.

About appreciation of Pakistan for fighting terrorism.. well, outside of Political rhetoric by west/China and innocent public in Pakistan, I dont think anyone really has any sympathy for Pakistan....

what the hell r u talking about man? against USSR it was afghanis n pakistani, but al-qaeda is all arab n african. look at all the initial bomb blasts in usa, uk, spain n tell me how many of them were afghans or pakistanis? none.. they were all arab n africans. only bcoz usama was in afghanistan at the time of war against USSR doesnt make him an ISI tool, he was in close ties with usa too, has business partenerships with them how come u dont say he was a tool for usa? bcoz pakistan is weaker? all da suicide bombers r young, most of them in late teens or early 20's they didnt even exist at time of USSR war, yeah if they are being trained by pakistan how come they r being used against pakistan? do u mean all of a sudden pakistan lost all the date, records, addresses where they trained these ppl or hid these ppl? all of a sudden all the terrorist groups forgot who the boss is? i would really like u to answer what happened all of a sudden that ppl trained n used by pakistan turned against pakistan n no pakistani agency or army was able to apprehend them? did they rented a new house packed their luggage n moved over night where their creator cant find them? lol . if pakistan made these organisations then they would know who is running them, where they r trained, whats their method n wat can b counter method, where can they buy their ammunation, where can they find experts, or spies, or informants. and even if ur theory is correct, why didnt any of the terrorists ever mentioned it when they turned against pakistan? dont u think it would have made their job easy to target pakistan if they can speak out n give the world a proof that pakistan was at some point their trainer or creator or protector or watever? u r talking about huge organisations here not a spoiled kid who just left his home n dad doesnt know where he is.
 
turkey? u gota b kidding me. only bcoz they wear skirts n r closer to europe? lol.10 yrs ago when pakistan wasnt prone to terrorism n wasnt labelled, it was 2nd after malaysia for exports (other then oil) . pakistan had n still has largest , most equipped n modern armed forces, only muslim country that had close ties with both usa n china,whenever any muslim country needed technical support from another muslim country they turned to iran or pakistan not to turkey, whenever UN needed muslim army for peacekeeping anywhere in the world it was pakistan that was asked for help not turkey, apart from one tri-lateral organisation with pakistan n iran, turkey has no close relationship with the rest of muslm world then wat on earth makes u think turkey was a potential leader of muslim world? it could b iran or may b saudi arabia bcoz they have our sacred places but turkey? seriously?? terrorism n harboring terrorists is just a label u n ppl like u have put on us, u just dont want to open eyes n see that pakistan is giving away lives n assets in the war against terrorism n is probably the only biggest target of terrorists. on one side u think we r so resourceful n smart to make as many terrorists as we want, n we cash the situation n on other side u think we r so dumb that we r using terrorism to cut our own limbs. lol... btw how manyh pakistanis were involved in 9/11 or london bombing or spain bombing that u call us terrorists? the answer is none, they were all african, arabs or afghanis... but u wont accept it
turkey? u gota b kidding me. only bcoz they wear skirts n r closer to europe? lol.10 yrs ago when pakistan wasnt prone to terrorism n wasnt labelled, it was 2nd after malaysia for exports (other then oil) . pakistan had n still has largest , most equipped n modern armed forces, only muslim country that had close ties with both usa n china,whenever any muslim country needed technical support from another muslim country they turned to iran or pakistan not to turkey, whenever UN needed muslim army for peacekeeping anywhere in the world it was pakistan that was asked for help not turkey, apart from one tri-lateral organisation with pakistan n iran, turkey has no close relationship with the rest of muslm world then wat on earth makes u think turkey was a potential leader of muslim world? it could b iran or may b saudi arabia bcoz they have our sacred places but turkey? seriously?? terrorism n harboring terrorists is just a label u n ppl like u have put on us, u just dont want to open eyes n see that pakistan is giving away lives n assets in the war against terrorism n is probably the only biggest target of terrorists. on one side u think we r so resourceful n smart to make as many terrorists as we want, n we cash the situation n on other side u think we r so dumb that we r using terrorism to cut our own limbs. lol... btw how manyh pakistanis were involved in 9/11 or london bombing or spain bombing that u call us terrorists? the answer is none, they were all african, arabs or afghanis... but u wont accept it

For the reasons
Turkey is a tolerant socety unlike pakistan where the population is continuously declining for minorities
Second pakistan has a history of not being stable with frequent coups
Third Pakistan does not have good relations with the nation with 3 largest muslim population
Fourth Pakistan is actively found involved in terrorism


there are lot of ifs and buts in your reply. if i had super powers i would be wonder women too....
 

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