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October 17, 2012, 3:14 PM IST

Chinese Like India Less


The views of Chinese people toward India are becoming more negative but they’re not much keener on Pakistan, according to the results of a new report.

The Pew Research Center report, released Tuesday, shows that two-thirds of Chinese respondents viewed India unfavorably and 23% favorably. By comparison, 43% of Chinese involved in the survey said they viewed the U.S. favorably.

Chinese attitudes to Pakistan – Beijing’s longstanding ally in the South Asia region – were not much warmer. The study showed that only 31% of respondents said they had a positive view of Pakistan.

What’s perhaps most notable in the report is that only 39% of respondents said they viewed Beijing’s relationship with India as one of cooperation, down significantly from 53% in 2010.Such a trend shows the difficulties facing both countries as they try to improve relations. In 2010, Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao visited India with a large trade delegation, a trip which highlighted growing commercial ties between the two nations.

India’s expanding economy has led to demand for Chinese imports, growing new markets for items such as telecom equipment and power plant turbines. But the Pew study showed that only 44% of Chinese view India’s economic advance as positive, down from 60% at the time of Mr. Wen’s visit in 2010.Those in China that consider India’s economic success as a negative have almost doubled in the same period.Only 23% of Indians term their nation’s relationship with China as one of cooperation; only 24% think China’s growing economy is a good thing, Pew research shows.These negative attitudes mean it’ll be hard for China and India to take bold measures needed to forge a long-lasting thaw in relations.

India and China fought a 1962 border war that Beijing won. Both countries still dispute the long Himalayan borders that separates them.Efforts to solve the border issue over the years has gotten nowhere amid nationalist howling from both sides.Despite increased trade, New Delhi remains wary of China’s moves to extend its maritime presence in the Indian Ocean, while Beijing has complained about India’s commercial activities in the South China Sea.

The low number of Chinese that have a favorable view of Pakistan – an enemy of India since 1947 – could reflect the country’s continued inability to stop Islamist militants from operating on its soil.Beijing this year has complained about alleged links between Uighur separatist militants in northwestern China and Pakistan-based terrorist groups.Chinese companies also have pulled out of deals in Pakistan due to security concerns.But the Pew survey showed that Chinese in general view Pakistan as an ally, with 49% saying the relationship between the country was still one of cooperation.

Beijing continues to help Pakistan develop its civil nuclear program at a time when other countries, including the U.S., have refused to do so because of Islamabad’s history of nuclear proliferation.It also has stepped in to help Pakistan’s economy. Recent Pakistan media reports say China’s government may increase its stake Pakistan’s Gwadar port, a facility on the Arabian Sea that Beijing helped fund a few years ago.



Chinese Like India Less - India Real Time - WSJ



* Pakistan,India,China need more cooperation regardless of our infighting and differences. Together we can be the next big thing, if we kept bickering amongst us, let me assure you we will be viewed as fools in the history books.
 
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October 17, 2012, 3:14 PM IST

Chinese Like India Less


What’s perhaps most notable in the report is that only 39% of respondents said they viewed Beijing’s relationship with India as one of cooperation, down significantly from 53% in 2010.

Can anyone (Chinese) explain this? 14% drop in 2 years is pretty significant, considering not much except PDF verbal brawls happened in these two years between India and China...
 
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Can anyone (Chinese) explain this? 14% drop in 2 years is pretty significant, considering not much except PDF verbal brawls happened in these two years between India and China...

More Chinese are coming onto the English-language parts of the internet, to look at Indian news sites like ToI and the comments there.

What they usually find in the comments section is the word "ch*nk" repeated over and over again for any news regarding China. So it's not unexpected to see such a massive drop. :P

Maybe NE Indians are used to receiving such slurs on such a regular basis, but no East Asians are used to it in their own countries.

But the Pew study showed that only 44% of Chinese view India’s economic advance as positive, down from 60% at the time of Mr. Wen’s visit in 2010.

And this above is an even bigger drop than the one you mentioned.
 
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More Chinese are coming onto the English-language parts of the internet, to look at Indian news sites like ToI and the comments there.

What they usually find in the comments section is the word "ch*nk" repeated over and over again for any news regarding China. So it's not unexpected to see such a massive drop. :P

Maybe NE Indians are used to receiving such slurs on such a regular basis, but no East Asians are used to it in their own countries.

For one, that word is banned by GoI I think.

And two, many Indians may call Chinese Ch*nks, but what many guys don't realise is, that people like me, and many others, just use it as a short version of the word Chinese. Just like how we call Malayalees-Mallus, and Engishmen-Brits, and so on. At least when I say it, I have no racist intention.
 
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EzioAltaïr;3511342 said:
For one, that word is banned by GoI I think.

And two, many Indians may call Chinese Ch*nks, but what many guys don't realise is, that people like me, and many others, just use it as a short version of the word Chinese. Just like how we call Malayalees-Mallus, and Engishmen-Brits, and so on. At least when I say it, I have no racist intention.

If there was genuinely no intention to offend, then that is understandable.

The problem is, the word is never used by itself. It is almost always preceded or followed by other words, for example "dirty ch*nk bastard". The context makes it very clear that there are no misunderstandings.

Hell, even the Indian Diplomatic Youth Delegation to China used this word while they were harassing Chinese women.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/197520-eve-teasers-india-team-raise-stink-china.html
 
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EzioAltaïr;3511342 said:
For one, that word is banned by GoI I think.

And two, many Indians may call Chinese Ch*nks, but what many guys don't realise is, that people like me, and many others, just use it as a short version of the word Chinese. Just like how we call Malayalees-Mallus, and Engishmen-Brits, and so on. At least when I say it, I have no racist intention.

I would like you to go up to a black person and call him ni-ger.
I am sure you have no racist intention, lets see how he takes it.

And also, I call BS on your "short" theory.
No one I know has a problem saying "Chinese" it's not like a Tamil name, it's not 20 syllable long.
Every time I have seen the word "ch-nk" being used is by Indians as a racist/pejorative term.
 
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If there was genuinely no intention to offend, then that is understandable.

The problem is, the word is never used by itself. It is almost always preceded or followed by other words, for example "dirty ch*nk bastard". The context makes it very clear that there are no misunderstandings.

Hell, even the Indian Diplomatic Youth Delegation to China used this word while they were harassing Chinese women.
In my country "chink" means a worthless person unable to adapt to any changes, just like the "N" word.
 
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EzioAltaïr;3511342 said:
For one, that word is banned by GoI I think.

And two, many Indians may call Chinese Ch*nks, but what many guys don't realise is, that people like me, and many others, just use it as a short version of the word Chinese. Just like how we call Malayalees-Mallus, and Engishmen-Brits, and so on. At least when I say it, I have no racist intention.

And I also do not have racist intention to call Indians 'A San' or smelly curry in China...
 
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If there was genuinely no intention to offend, then that is understandable.

The problem is, the word is never used by itself. It is almost always preceded or followed by other words, for example "dirty ch*nk bastard". The context makes it very clear that there are no misunderstandings.

Hell, even the Indian Diplomatic Youth Delegation to China used this word while they were harassing Chinese women.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/197520-eve-teasers-india-team-raise-stink-china.html

But the comments on an online newspaper don't really represent an entire country's understanding of the word right? I wasn't even aware of the racist meaning of this word until I began coming on forums.

As for the "Diplomatic Delegation", I really have nothing to say. :|

And I also do not have racist intention to call Indians 'A San' or smelly curry in China...

Just FYI, I'm not calling 'em any racist names. Ch*nks for me is just short for Chinese.
 
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EzioAltaïr;3511358 said:
Ch*nks for me is just short for Chinese.

Not one single dictionary in the entire world will agree with you. It is listed as racist slang (when used against a person) in every single dictionary.

You yourself said that the Indian Government has banned this word. Do you think they made a mistake?

There is no "k" in the word Chinese, so your argument of it being shorthand is BS.
 
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I would like you to go up to a black person and call him ni-ger.
I am sure you have no racist intention, lets see how he takes it.

And also, I call BS on your "short" theory.
No one I know has a problem saying "Chinese" it's not like a Tamil name, it's not 20 syllable long.
Every time I have seen the word "ch-nk" being used is by Indians as a racist/pejorative term.

Sooooo, anyone who calls Englishmen a Brit, is a racist. Calling Americans Yanks is racist. Calling a Saudi Arabian an Arab is racist.

Did I justify calling a black a nigg*r? That's a term, short for Negro, which was originally coined with a derogatory meaning, which is well known even by kids. On the other hand, like I said, I wasn't even aware that Chinese get offended by the other term until I came onto forums.
 
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EzioAltaïr;3511370 said:
Did I justify calling a black a nigg*r? That's a term, short for Negro, which was originally coined with a derogatory meaning, which is well known even by kids. On the other hand, like I said, I wasn't even aware that Chinese get offended by the other term until I came onto forums.

"Niger" in Latin just means black. Used to refer to people with black skin (not just those of African descent).

But it picked up racist connotations over time, and now it is listed as a racial slur in every dictionary.
 
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Can anyone (Chinese) explain this? 14% drop in 2 years is pretty significant, considering not much except PDF verbal brawls happened in these two years between India and China...

Like Chinese Dragon says more and more Chinese are venturing out in to the English part of the internet. And they read the posts and opinions from Indians, Americans and others that are full of hate and contempt toward China and the Chinese how do you expect them to respond ? Its funny that the media in the West and in India believes that if only the Chinese can learn the "truth" about their country and leaders they will revolt or reject them. But those opinions are often based on very convoluted idea's about what is happening in China. And there for instead of turning against their leaders they turn against the foreigners that is spewing this crap.
 
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"Niger" in Latin just means black. Used to refer to people with black skin (not just those of African descent).

But it picked up racist connotations over time, and now it is listed as a racial slur in every dictionary.

Well, yeah it techically should mean black. Not in a racist way, just to refer to anyone black. But with all that slavery, and whites considering everyone but themselves as barbarians (back in the 18th Century), this term has become derogatory.
 
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