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2008 Arab Poll Shows How the West Has Fooled Us and We Need to Wake Up!

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This thread is aimed at all the citizens of the middle east. I know some of you are so stubborn in your beliefs that nothing will change your mind. But to those that are open-minded and logical, please take a few moments and read my post.

I was researching some information for my personal knowledge, and saw this 2008 Poll. This Poll is done with the support by Zogby International which is one of the most reputable polling institutes. The poll was done in 6 countries, Egypt, Lebanon, KSA, UAE, Jordan, and Morocco.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2008/4/14 middle east/0414_middle_east_telhami

Some of the results will surprise you. Specially since many of you are young, which means 8-10 years ago, a lot of you were teenagers or even some preteen, which means you don't have a frame of reference to that time.

Most Popular Leaders

In 2008, the most popular leader with 26% polled saying it was Hassan Nasrallah! Guess who was second with 16%? Bashar Assad. Third with 10%? Iran's ex-President Ahmadinejad.

Number four, five, six, and seven all have 6% with them being Sarkozy of France, Qadaffi, Bin Laden, Muhammad bin Rashid of Dubai, and eight is Chavez with 4%.

All of these were against the western status quo. But three out of those 8 were killed, and the top three had so much propaganda done against them, that I am sure they will not make the top lists anymore. How many of you from those six Arab countries (Egypt, KSA, UAE, Jordan, Morocco, and Lebanon) consider him as your favorite global leader? I am sure much less than 2008. How about Assad? Iran's Ahmednijad was not only discredited in Arab world, but even in Iran itself, there were so much manipulations to destroy him.

This is not a coincide.

This is not new. Throughout our history, any leader who stands up against the west and gets Arab support is either killed, sent into a political trap, or completely discredited. All that always remains are laptops and weak leaders.

Compare the poll 2006 & 2008.

Qadaffi went from 2% to 6%. Ahmadenijad from 4 to 10%. Assad from 2% to 16%! Nasrallah from 14% to 26%!!! These guys were getting more & more popular, and imagine how scary this must have been for the west, Israel, and all the puppets in the region!

In few years, we had "Arab Springs" (by the way, planned protests started only a year after that poll beginning with Iran in 2009) and everything was destroyed.

Iran's Nuclear Program

46% considered Iran's program to be peaceful, with 39% considered it as a plan to making nuclear weapons. This was by the way and improvement on 2006. In 2006, only 27% considered it peaceful. And more interesting, 44% considered IF Iran got nuclear weapons, the outcome would be positive for the middle east!
Only 29% considered it would be negative!

Let me to remind you again, 5 out of those 6 countries today are anti-Iran!

Look at the figures from KSA. 73% considered it would be positive for the region!

67% agreed that Iran has the right to have the nuclear program and international pressure should cease.

Again, individual countries are surprising, 71% of KSA said this, 75% of Jordanians!
And again, if you compare 2006-2008, numbers were increasing. 61% to 67%.

Iran as a Threat

When they asked which two countries possess a threat. 95% chose Israel! 88% chose USA! And only 7% chose Iran! And again this was falling down for Iran. In 2006 it was 11% and in 2008, it was 7%. USA went from 72% to 88% and Israel went from 85% to 95%.

Palestine

Palestine was getting more & more important among non-Palestinian Arabs. 69% in 2005 considered Palestine “most important”, 77% in 2006, and 86% in 2008. But see how easily the attention was shifted away & unity was destroyed.

Hamas was also becoming popular. In KSA, 40% liked Hamas, while only 18% liked Fatah. In UAE, 52% liked Hamas, with only 16% being pro-Fatah.

Problems with internal domestics were blamed on government of Abbas rather than Hamas. 23% blamed Abbas, and only 15% blamed Hamas. But where is Hamas now? How easily was it played with by bigger powers and weakened in the eyes of the Arabs

USA

America was getting more & more unpopular among the Arabs. In 2006, 57% were “Very Unfavorable” to USA, in 2008, it was “64%”. Hate was increasing for USA year by year.

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When I look at this poll, I feel sad. I feel like the people in our countries were getting more & more aware, understanding the need to resist the west, and their anger was manipulated in the Arab springs, they were tricked, and like multiple times in the last 100 years, unity was destroyed.

Please don’t jump to quick conclusions and automatically attack this post. Take a few moments and try to think about it. If things today are so different than 2008, is it not possible that it was the plan? Was not the west & the puppets panicking that people were waking up?

Thank you for reading & if you did, hope it didn't bore you.
 
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Who said otherwise? Arabs used to have positive view of Iran and it's allies before 2003. That view was negatively affected after Iraq invasion and Iranian destructive role in Iraq. However, some Arabs still view Iran positively at the time. After 2011, Iran and it's allies faces were completely revealed to the public. Now the vast majority of Arabs view Iran as their #1 enemy.
 
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Most Popular Leaders

In 2008, the most popular leader with 26% polled saying it was Hassan Nasrallah! Guess who was second with 16%? Bashar Assad. Third with 10%? Iran's ex-President Ahmadinejad.

Number four, five, six, and seven all have 6% with them being Sarkozy of France, Qadaffi, Bin Laden, Muhammad bin Rashid of Dubai, and eight is Chavez with 4%.
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It's not clear if these were simply the ONLY choices available to choose from.
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It's not clear if these were simply the ONLY choices available to choose from.
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Check this.
Anwar Sadat Chair for Peace and Development at University of Maryland, College Park

link on the questions for 2008. See q49. 16 names were given. But there was also a "others (specify)" option.

Who said otherwise? Arabs used to have positive view of Iran and it's allies before 2003. That view was negatively affected after Iraq invasion and Iranian destructive role in Iraq. However, some Arabs still view Iran positively at the time. After 2011, Iran and it's allies faces were completely revealed to the public. Now the vast majority of Arabs view Iran as their #1 enemy.

Did you read the poll results? Views were improving from 2006 to 2008, not getting worse year by year. Even the concerns about Iran regarding Iran was decreasing (check the poll).

Also, this thread isn't just about Iran. It's about all the leaders that Arabs liked, about hamas, about Palestine about views on USA, and so on.
 
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After the war with Israel Hasan nasrallah and co got more popular in the Arab world. This all changed after 2011 when Bashar al assad who inherited Syria from his father started killing protestors and Hasan Zumeira supported him instead of supporting the freedom seekers in Syria (like he did in Bahrain). His goals was purely based on interests, and Hezbollah's hypocrisy and sectarian agenda became clear to the general population.
 
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After the war with Israel Hasan nasrallah and co got more popular in the Arab world. This all changed after 2011 when Bashar al assad who inherited Syria from his father started killing protestors and Hasan Zumeira supported him instead of supporting the freedom seekers in Syria (like he did in Bahrain). His goals was purely based on interests, and Hezbollah's hypocrisy and sectarian agenda became clear to the general population.

In the popular global leaders list that I talked about, there were 8 names. All of these were resisting the western status quo, and their popularity was increasing day by day. None of the western puppets were on that list.

Let's go through them one by one,

1) Nasrallah. After the manufactured Syrian crisis, Hezbollah was forced to enter the war to protect their ally, their border, and the security of their own villages in the future. Victory for the west.

2) Assad - As above, manufactured crisis in 2011

3) Ahmadenijad - Manufactured crisis in 2009

4) Sarkozy - Only western leader in this list

5) Qadaff - Killed in the LIbyan crisis (what would have happened to Assad if things went according to their plan)

6) Osama Bin Laden - Hated Bin Laden, but in retrospect, he was 100 times better than Al Baghdadi and his anti-Islam ilk. Killed.

7) Muhammad Bin Rashid - The only middle eastern who isn't a resistance figure, but back then, Muhammad Bin Rashid was different than other Gulf leaders. His city was booming, he befriended all countries & didn't take sides and encouraged peace, and he did not run his city's economy based on oil. What happened? Dubai became bankrupt, saved by Abu Dhabi, and the tallest building in the world which was supposed to be called Burj Dubai was opened up as Burj Khalifa because of the help he got. Since then, Dubai has gone under the full influence of Abu Dhabi.

8) Chavez - Died, while controversy over his death lingers.

So, let's see the count,

3 out of 8 are dead - That's 37% death rate
3 out of 8 countries underwent an attempt of color revolution (failed in Iran, succeeded in Libya, and ongoing in Syria)
Political power of ALL EIGHT curtailed. That's 100% success rate.

Is this by chance?
 
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2006 - Qusayr town in Syria rallies in support of Hezbollah.

2013 - Hezbollah celebrates the destruction of Qusayr.

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This thread is a good news for you. It shows how all the people who stood against Israel lost support. Congratulations.
 
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This thread is a good news for you. It shows how all the people who stood against Israel lost support. Congratulations.
The anti Israeli stand of Hezbollah was nothing but show. They used it to gain popularity and power. Once they gained power they showed their true face.
 
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The anti Israeli stand of Hezbollah was nothing but show. They used it to gain popularity and power. Once they gained power they showed their true face.

Good, good, this is an interesting new Israeli initiative. You guys know that majority of people don't like you, so the way to discredit your enemies is to say, "They don't really hate us!", and it works.

Masters of manipulation. Respect.
 
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Good, good, this is an interesting new Israeli initiative. You guys know that majority of people don't like you, so the way to discredit your enemies is to say, "They don't really hate us!", and it works.

Masters of manipulation. Respect.
Yick.

You murder people who supported u. And when they started to hate you, you say: they hate us because of Israeli manipulation.

So pathetic.
 
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The west pursues its own interests everywhere in the globe not only ME....but that doesn't mean that everywhere descends into chaos like the middle East. For this state of affairs the blame has to be shared, and the lions share rests on the people of the region including the arabs and the Iranians.
 
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The west is known for instigating chaos and unrest in various parts of the world, this is expected.
 
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