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1971 War: When Indian missiles attacked Karachi's port

It still seem incredible that our boats managed to attack Pakistans most important port and managed to get back with no retaliation or even a chase from PAF and PN who would have been on constant alert during war.

Its not incredible at all India had a massive advantage as it had missiles in 1971 war. Pakistani WWII era ships had only guns on them. There was massive technological gap & range advantage.

It was night ambush by india, firing missiles from distance and going back.. It is not even close to the bravery, glory and epic naval combat win of PNS Hangor with 2 IN ASW frigates. Sinking 1 frigate with all 200 onboard, damaging other and then evaded entire IN fleet for days which came after it.

Indian navy was even then numerically massive, PN was such a tiny force, still it gave a bloody punch to much bigger and mighty force.
 
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1971 was a dark period in pakistans history.
Traitors at the helm in the form of bhutto and mujeeb. Depleted armed forces under embargo and a civil war. The enemy rightfully took full advantage.

Do u think India can do this ever again?

The real traitors were Yahya khan and Bhutto....they were selfish, power hungry and didn't recognize the situation in the east. Yahya was alcoholic and womanizer, he denied power transition to Mujeeb who was victorious in elections. Bhutto also supported Yahya's decision and passed extremely racists remarks about the people in east. Mujeeb was not a traitor at all, he was elected leader of his people.

Later, Bhutto laid the foundation of corruption in the country by destroying its thriving industry, nationalizing all profitable organizations and inducted thousands of jiyalas from PIA to railways to every govt dept. who till date are sucking the last penny of tax payers money with their salaries, pensions and everything..

Do u think India can do this ever again?

Honestly, the way PN stocks its entire Naval fleet at Karachi is crazy. Earlier, it was still protective because 100 miles distance from indian border means adversary's assets have to come quite close. In today's age, supersonic cruise missiles or air launched cruise missiles from the land border side can hit the very concentrations of naval assets. A force must be Always ready for worst case. However, If india do it, it will face counter attack (not by PN as it will be largely gone) but by PAF and our land base cruise missiles. That's the only reason, india does not attack as it know, we will fire whatever we got in our arsenal.
Here's almost 90% of our Naval assets stacked together in Karachi:
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Navy needs to distribute its assets in atleast 4 bases. Musharraf inaugurated Ormara Jinnah base in early 2000s. Still it occasionally hosts 1 or 2 ships.. Another issue in Karachi shipyard is that industrial waste is damaging and decreasing the ship's lifespan upto 33%.

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Taken from: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/pakistan/pns-karachi.htm
 
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PAF Creates Spectacular Fireworks At Okha

On the night of 4 December 1971, Indian Osa missile boats attacked the Pakistan Navy, hitting a destroyer and a minesweeper southeast of Karachi. The menace of Indian missile boats was a very serious threat not only to the Navy but also to other Pakistani ships in the Arabian Sea and in the Karachi harbour. Pakistan retaliated by causing extensive damage through a single B-57 attack on Okha naval base in India. The bombs scored direct hit on fuel dumps, ammunition dump and the missile boats jetty. The missile boat attacks on Pakistani naval installations ceased thereafter.

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In the wake of the missile attack, Pak Navy felt – almost as an after-thought – that the home base of the missile boats at Okha needed to be taken out. In all likelihood, the tit-for-tat raid serving as a retribution of sorts would have been uppermost in the minds of the Naval Staff. In any case, the necessity of tackling the threat of missile boats also sank in at PAF’s COC and it was agreed to attack Okha harbour. Of course, it was not expected that the missile boats would still be berthed at the quay-side in Okha. As a matter of fact, these had already been dispersed to smaller locations along the Saurashtra Coast, even before the war had started. Nonetheless, it was the considered opinion of Pak Navy that a hit on the infrastructure could hamper missile boat operations to some extent.

On the evening of 5 December, Flt Lt Shabbir A Khan was standing out on the B-57 tarmac watching preparations for the night missions, when he was informed about being detailed for a strike on Okha harbour. He, along with his navigator, Sqn Ldr Ansar Ahmad, rushed off to the operations room to start planning the mission. Two hours after moonrise seemed like a good selection of the TOT, as the glimmering sea would clearly outline the edges of the darkened harbour.

Taking off at 2210 hrs, the B-57 got a fiery send-off as the AAA opened up in the nearby Karachi harbour, signalling an air raid. Continuing the take-off, Shabbir and Ansar settled down to watch – with unnerving anticipation – the moonbeams dazzling the creeks and estuaries of the Kutch Coast to their port side. Finally, turning to the attack heading, they picked up a sizeable flotilla on their radar, about 20-nm to their starboard. There was a temptation to go for the ships, but discipline prevailed and they continued for the designated target. Reaching the pull-up point, Shabbir pushed the throttles to 100% power, while Ansar started to guide him into the attack. Just when Shabbir pressed the bomb release button and there was no release, Ansar realised that he had forgotten to arm the release switch. In a fraction of a second he flipped the switch on and Shabbir pipped the button again, pulling out of the dive narrowly. After some 10-odd seconds, there was a tremendous flash of light and the aircraft shook up with the blast. A direct hit had been achieved as nine 500-lb bombs slammed into fuel tanks and other stores at the harbour. In the meantime AAA had started to fire and the sky seemed ablaze. Shabbir and Ansar saw the shells continuously exploding along the aircraft’s flight path but luckily, the bomber escaped unscathed.

The attack had been a tremendous success and, news that the home base of the missile boats was in flames turned out to be thoroughly cathartic for all and sundry in the Pak Navy and PAF. A pair of F-104s which visited Okha for another attack four days later, reported that the harbour was still smouldering and the smoke could be seen from as far as 60-nm. The Indian Official History of 1971 Indo-Pak War notes that, “two air attacks were also carried out on Okha and some fuel tanks were set ablaze, thereby denying the missile boats any further use of this port as a forward base.”[6]
This is what we call "Teri Keh ke Lunn ga" @INS_Vikramaditya :lol:
Not to mention what PNS Hangor did to Khukri and all indian navy. Incredible na pajeet? 😉
 
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Its not incredible at all India had a massive advantage as it had missiles in 1971 war. Pakistani WWII era ships had only guns on them. There was massive technological gap & range advantage.
If I'm not mistaken,the Syrians had Osa-class ships too in 1973 and the Israelis smashed them. It was the first ship vs ship missile battle in history,right?
 
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It still seem incredible that our boats managed to attack Pakistans most important port and managed to get back with no retaliation or even a chase from PAF and PN who would have been on constant alert during war.
Ability for PN to respond to this threat was unlikely

Missile boats were fast and will escape the scene before PN realizes what happened and decides to pursue them

Pakistanis did not expect us to deploy missile boats for offensive purposes as Soviets had created them for coastal defensive roles

Also these missile boats by themselves lacked the range to attack Pakistani coast

IN had to use larger vessels to tug these missile boats along, so that they can reach close to Pakistani coast

PAF being MIA is a mystery similar to the longewala episode, my guess is PAF was overwhelmed
 
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1971 کی جنگ چھڑ جانے کے بعد انڈین نیوی کی تیز رفتار میزائل بوٹس کا پاکستان پر حملہ شروع ہو چکا تھا لیکن پاکستان کی نیوی جنگ لڑنے کی پوزیشن میں نہیں تھی۔ تو انہوں نے کراچی کی بندرگاہ کی حفاظت کیسے کی؟ جانیے اس آڈیو سٹوری میں

After the outbreak of the 1971 war, the Indian Navy's high-speed missile boats began attacking Pakistan, but the Pakistani Navy was not in a position to fight the war. So how did they protect the port of Karachi? Find out in this audio story.

Short Answer: PNS Hangor and attack on Okha Harbour.

Hi,

It happened because PAF hierarchy was upto playing games. The PIA flight coming from GCC had noticed missiles boats being towed behind a ship and notified the air traffic control karachi who notified the air force.

Was it Air Masrshall A rahim who refused to assist stating " it is navy's problem---let navy handle it ".
 
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Hi,

It happened because PAG hierarchy was upto playing games. The f;ight coming from GCC had noticed missiles boats being towed behind a ship and notified the air traffic control karachi who notified the air force.

Was it Air Masrshall A rahim who refused to assist stating " it is navy's problem---let navy handle it ".

Finally some insights. Can you share few more details?
 
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1971 was a dark period in pakistans history.
Traitors at the helm in the form of bhutto and mujeeb. Depleted armed forces under embargo and a civil war. The enemy rightfully took full advantage.

Do u think India can do this ever again?

Tactically No, but strategically Yes.

I am afraid the leadership (both civil and military) and the attitude is still the same as it was back then.
 
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It still seem incredible that our boats managed to attack Pakistans most important port and managed to get back with no retaliation or even a chase from PAF and PN who would have been on constant alert during war.

A Pakistani sailor did try to hit the missiles with a board gun.
 
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PAF being MIA is a mystery similar to the longewala episode, my guess is PAF was overwhelmed

AF wasnt MIA. It lacked anti ship weaponry. AF was mostly contesting the air with the IAF, denying them superiority. Not to mention Okha Harbour blitz.
 
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Can you elaborate please

Tactically Indian navy cannot surprize attack PN or Khi anymore.
Strategically they can overwhelm PN by diverting assets and creating diversion. The objective might not be karachi but more of demoralizing and at most partial blocking of SLOC.

Regarding leadership, i don't think they have learnt much politically from 71 and state of affairs is a clear reflection of that.
 
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Tactically Indian navy cannot surprize attack PN or Khi anymore.
Strategically they can overwhelm PN by diverting assets and creating diversion. The objective might not be karachi but more of demoralizing and at most partial blocking of SLOC.

Regarding leadership, i don't think they have learnt much politically from 71 and state of affairs is a clear reflection of that.
Thanks for your explanation.
I think it will be very difficult for India to enforce any kind of blockade or a surprise attack and any attack will result in a response that will make India look incompetent. Feb27 2019 and subsequent surfacing of Indian sub was a good lessons for the Indians but Pakistan should have hit the sub and boarded it
 
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1971 was a dark period in pakistans history.
Traitors at the helm in the form of bhutto and mujeeb. Depleted armed forces under embargo and a civil war. The enemy rightfully took full advantage.

Do u think India can do this ever again?
but bhutto is still alive in the form of ppp & it is much worst under the hands of zardari...
 
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