1971 War - Official Pakistani Version

[M_Saint]

Yeah, while you guys murdering Bangladeshi civilians was very brave of you. Get off the high horse, I have repeatedly mentioned that India would probably have not gotten involved, but for the Bangladeshi refugees coming into our country in millions, and severely affecting our economy.

When civilians (Read RAWamy Dalals) conspired with enemies to break a country up then they don't remain civilians anymore except becoming traitors. And the Malaunic seed of break E PAK up was sown by Maha Shaitan Ghandi even before PAK came into being, especially when he averted the riot in Noakhali.

 

[Rusty]

Indian_jigar is obvious a troll
I have already reported him so please don't quote what he says.
We don't need that ***** to propagated here.

 

[indian_jigar]

Indian_jigar is obvious a troll
I have already reported him so please don't quote what he says.
We don't need that ***** to propagated here.

I am a troll when he asks for Hindus to be cleansed form his land?

 

[Rusty]

I am a troll when he asks for Hindus to be cleansed form his land?

unless I read something different, he said no such thing.
You are being too emotional and are waving your flag of hatred and bias.
If you keep on this road you will get banned soon.

 

[indian_jigar]

unless I read something different, he said no such thing.
You are being too emotional and are having your flag of hatred and bias.
If you keep on this road you will get banned soon.

Well then read M_saint's post again, unless you have no idea what the Noakhali genocide was. I have had enough of these anit-Hindu posts in this forum, dont care if I get banned, I will give an equal response to them as long as I last.

You guys will be the first ones crying about being victims in Gujrat riots, while celebrating all the riots where countless more Hindus have died...

 

[Rusty]

Well then read M_saint's post again, unless you have no idea what the Noakhali genocide was. I have had enough of these anit-Hindu posts in this forum, dont care if I get banned, I will give an equal response to them as long as I last.

You guys will be the first ones crying about being victims in Gujrat riots, while celebrating all the riots where countless more Hindus have died...

I did have no idea about Noakhali riots, I just read up on them.

And I still think you have no right to say the things you said about Islam.
Just like I don't have a right to say nasty things about Hindus after gujrat.
And please tell me one person who is "celebrating" these riots besides M_Saint (not saying that he is celebrating)
Keep things in proportion will you, I have never once seen anyone, neither Hindu or Muslim celebrate a riot here.

 

[M_Saint]

Whatever man, for every action there is an equal reaction. Bangladesh has gotten rid of its Hindus via genocide, good for you, but it only shows what a vile and disgusting religion Islam is.

Bangladesh has gotten rid of Hindus is being said by Ardvani, the biggest peace bird? And Islam is disgusting that is being preached by Mordi, the new Messiah? I guess worshiping 'Shiva Linga' and drinking 'Cow Pees' can make one's eyes only that powerful as well as imagination such wide spread?

 

[indian_jigar]

I did have no idea about Noakhali riots, I just read up on them.

And I still think you have no right to say the things you said about Islam.
Just like I don't have a right to say nasty things about Hindus after gujrat.
And please tell me one person is "celebrating" these riots besides M_Saint (not saying that he is celebrating)
Keep things in proportion will you, I have never once seen anyone, neither Hindu or Muslim celebrate a riot here.

What he was doing was worse than celebrating. Maybe you should read his post again. Gandhi stopped those riots in 1946, and he was swearing at Gandhi essentially for it.

Its like me saying I wish no one stopped the Gujrat riots so that there would be no Muslims left in India. Thats the equivalent. Malaun or whatever is an offensive term for Hindus...

I am not even Hindu, but Islamists like him (a lot of them happen to be Bangladesh i in this forum) really get under my skin really quick...

 

[Rusty]

well, I tried
Looks like this thread is heading towards being closed.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Bangladesh has gotten rid of Hindus is being said by Ardvani, the biggest peace bird? And Islam is disgusting that is being preached by Mordi, the new Messiah? I guess worshiping 'Shiva Linga' and drinking 'Cow Pees' can make one's eyes only that powerful as well as imagination such wide spread?

NOW YOU HAVE SHOWN YOUR TRUE COLORS SAINT!its because of the people like you that the partition took place in the sub-continent!all you can do is to spread hatred among the common masses!mate remember one thing that too much hate will make your life miserable!

 

[Rusty]

NOW YOU HAVE SHOWN YOUR TRUE COLORS SAINT!its because of the people like you that the partition took place in the sub-continent!all you can do is to spread hatred among the common masses!mate remember one thing that too much hate will make your life miserable!

Partition took place because there was no reason for Pakistan to be lumped in with India. We have nothing in common with you. India is more like Europe, with different people, languages and cultures. But unlike Europe, All these people have been crammed into one country. Pakistan did not want to be part of this experiment and decided to go it's own way.

I am not knocking India, so far they are more or less making it work, but you have to face the facts. There was never a country called India pre 47 and the only time the land was ever united in the last 4000 years was the few hundred years a strong ruler would conquer it.

 

[Edevelop]

jo hoya so hoya.
Two words. Troll Thread !

 

[M_Saint]

Better than worshiping a pedophile...

Hows your 6 month old wife doing ? Does she wear a Burkha? Was she also perhaps your first cousin?

Ardvani Dadur Nati Tumi...

Mordi Jhethar Sele,

RSS'r Patsalay..

Kokhon Gyesile?


Of Aisha’s age at marriage


From the Newspaper | Nilofar Ahmed | 17th February, 2012


IT is said that Hazrat Aisha was six years old when her nikah was performed with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Makkah, and nine years old when she moved in to live with her husband in Madina after Hijra.

This piece of misinformation has led to the wrong view that child marriage has the sanction of Islam. It must be noted that establishing the authenticity of hadiths, the narrators’ circumstances and the conditions at that time have to be correlated with historical facts. There is only one hadith by Hisham which suggests the age of Hazrat Aisha as being nine when she came to live with her husband.

Many authentic hadiths also show that Hisham’s narration is incongruous with several historical facts about the Prophet’s life, on which there is consensus. With reference to scholars such as Umar Ahmed Usmani, Hakim Niaz Ahmed and Habibur Rehman Kandhulvi, I would like to present some arguments in favour of the fact that Hazrat Aisha was at least 18 years old when her nikah was performed and at least 21 when she moved into the Prophet’s house to live with him.

According to Umar Ahmed Usmani, in Surah Al-Nisa, it is said that the guardian of the orphans should keep testing them, until they reach the age of marriage, before returning their property (4:6). From this scholars have concluded that the Quran sets a minimum age of marriage which is at least puberty. Since the approval of the girl has a legal standing, she cannot be a minor.

Hisham bin Urwah is the main narrator of this hadith. His life is divided into two periods: in 131A.H. the Madani period ended, and the Iraqi period started, when Hisham was 71 years old. Hafiz Zehbi has spoken about Hisham’s loss of memory in his later period. His students in Madina, Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifah, do not mention this hadith. Imam Malik and the people of Madina criticised him for his Iraqi hadiths.

All the narrators of this hadith are Iraqis who had heard it from Hisham. Allama Kandhulvi says that the words spoken in connection with Hazrat Aisha’s age were tissa ashara, meaning 19, when Hisham only heard (or remembered), tissa, meaning nine. Maulana Usmani thinks this change was purposely and maliciously made later.

Historian Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah has given a list of the people who accepted Islam in the first year of the proclamation of Islam, in which Hazrat Aisha’s name is mentioned as Abu Bakr’s “little daughter Aisha”. If we accept Hisham’s calculations, she was not even born at that time.

Some time after the death of the Prophet’s first wife, Hazrat Khadija, Khawla suggested to the Prophet that he get married again, to a bikrun, referring to Hazrat Aisha (Musnad Ahmed). In Arabic bikrun is used for an unmarried girl who has crossed the age of puberty and is of marriageable age. The word cannot be used for a six-year-old girl.

Some scholars think that Hazrat Aisha was married off so early because in Arabia girls mature at an early age. But this was not a common custom of the Arabs at that time. According to Allama Kandhulvi, there is no such case on record either before or after Islam. Neither has this ever been promoted as a Sunnah of the Prophet. The Prophet married off his daughters Fatima at 21 and Ruquiyya at 23. Besides, Hazrat Abu Bakr, Aisha’s father, married off his eldest daughter Asma at the age of 26.

Hazrat Aisha narrates that she was present on the battlefield at the Battle of Badar (Muslim). This leads one to conclude that Hazrat Aisha moved into the Prophet’s house in 1 A.H. But a nine-year-old could not have been taken on a rough and risky military mission.

In 2 A.H, the Prophet refused to take boys of less than 15 years of age to the battle of Uhud. Would he have allowed a 10-year-old girl to accompany him? But Anas reported that he saw Aisha and Umme Sulaim carrying goatskins full of water and serving it to the soldiers (Bukhari). Umme Sulaim and Umme Ammara, the other women present at Uhud, were both strong, mature women whose duties were the lifting of the dead and injured, treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, supplying ammunition and even taking up the sword.

Hazrat Aisha used the kunniat, the title derived from the name of a child, of Umme Abdullah after her nephew and adopted son.
If she was six when her nikah was performed, she would have been only eight years his senior, hardly making him eligible for adoption. Also, a little girl could not have given up on ever having her own child and used an adopted child’s name for her kunniat.

Hazrat Aisha’s nephew Urwah once remarked that he was not surprised about her amazing knowledge of Islamic law, poetry and history because she was the wife of the Prophet and the daughter of Abu Bakr. If she was eight when her father migrated, when did she learn poetry and history from him?

There is consensus that Hazrat Aisha was 10 years younger than her elder sister Asma, whose age at the time of the hijrah, or migration to Madina, was about 28. It can be concluded that Hazrat Aisha was about 18 years old at migration. On her moving to the Prophet’s house, she was a young woman at 21. Hisham is the single narrator of the hadith whose authenticity is challenged, for it does not correlate with the many historical facts of the time.

Of Aisha

Forummers, please note that organized Internet Hindu criminals don't spare a moment to call prophet Mohammad (PUBH) a pedophile and because of us, the Muslims being not properly knowledgeable about our Diniat, the most of the times they get away without being rebutted.

 

[indian_jigar]

Ardvani Dadur Nati Tumi...

Mordi Jhethar Sele,

RSS'r Patsalay..

Kokhon Gyesile?


Of Aisha’s age at marriage


From the Newspaper | Nilofar Ahmed | 17th February, 2012

Of Aisha

What are you talking about. I dont understand Bangladeshi...

 

[gubbi]

I guess ten Indian squadrons against a solitary PAF unit equipped with Korean era F-86 Sabres makes you Indians brave....but then again, the catch word is....Indian. !!

My oh my! Where did they teach you that you should fight on an equal footing? No wonder with such teachings and teachers, the results are what they actually are!
Talk about catch words......